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Sep 23, 2012 12:47:44   #
TdogKing
 
Your missing my point, but the law doesn't state any limitations on equipment when taking pictures of people out in public, it also doesn't make it subject to prosecution of people out in public. I understand you think its invasion of privacy but if a camera can see you you are out in public. Do I think its right...not really..but do I think she's ignorant to believe she's not being watched at all times...yes I do.

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Sep 23, 2012 13:40:38   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
I agree. In this country you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Being in the middle of a massive private estate and being photographed by someone was on private property isn't reasonable but since he wason a public road is it still reasonable? No, using a 600mm lens with a 2X extender and cropping it to enlarge a small part isn't reasonable. He was prabably paid more than his equipment was worth for the photos. I was the naked eye concept..... if I can't clearly see it without enhancement I might be violating the privacy rules. The ethics should come into play.

BigBear wrote:
TdogKing wrote:
The pictures show she was out where she could and did get her picture taken and thats considered 'out in public'. She of all people should know they are under a watchful eye and act accordingly. And its not at all like tapping into a phone line, you don't hear of any police investigation going on because she was again...'out in public'


If you have to resort to using high-tech equipment to spy on someone who is in a private setting, you are an invader of their personal space and are subject to prosecution.
quote=TdogKing The pictures show she was out wher... (show quote)

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Sep 23, 2012 14:05:21   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
TdogKing wrote:
Your missing my point, but the law doesn't state any limitations on equipment when taking pictures of people out in public, it also doesn't make it subject to prosecution of people out in public. I understand you think its invasion of privacy but if a camera can see you you are out in public. Do I think its right...not really..but do I think she's ignorant to believe she's not being watched at all times...yes I do.


Since you say "if a camera can see you you are out in public" I guess you are also one of the privacy invaders!! That would also mean that if you are inside your own home or apartment and the windows don't have 'blackout' shades pulled, then you are "out in public"!!!

Your basic logic is very flawed!!! When you are on PRIVATE PROPERTY in an area where there is NO PUBLIC ACCESS within an easily visible distance, then you ARE INVADING PRIVACY if you use extreme long-telephoto lenses and any other high-tech equipment to SPY on them!! Just being outside of a building does not mean that you are OUT IN PUBLIC!!!

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Sep 23, 2012 14:09:54   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
Jer wrote:
I agree. In this country you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Being in the middle of a massive private estate and being photographed by someone was on private property isn't reasonable but since he wason a public road is it still reasonable? No, using a 600mm lens with a 2X extender and cropping it to enlarge a small part isn't reasonable. He was prabably paid more than his equipment was worth for the photos. I was the naked eye concept..... if I can't clearly see it without enhancement I might be violating the privacy rules. The ethics should come into play.

BigBear wrote:
TdogKing wrote:
The pictures show she was out where she could and did get her picture taken and thats considered 'out in public'. She of all people should know they are under a watchful eye and act accordingly. And its not at all like tapping into a phone line, you don't hear of any police investigation going on because she was again...'out in public'


If you have to resort to using high-tech equipment to spy on someone who is in a private setting, you are an invader of their personal space and are subject to prosecution.
quote=TdogKing The pictures show she was out wher... (show quote)
I agree. In this country you have a reasonable ex... (show quote)


Just remember that for the type of IDIOT that took the picture, THERE ARE NO ETHICS INVOLVED! The "Gossip Rags" that publish this CRAP are totally without ethics and think that they are ABOVE THE LAW!!!

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Sep 23, 2012 18:08:27   #
TdogKing
 
All I'm saying is how it works in society in todays world.I never said I agree or anything of the sort, and for that matter ,I'm not a 'privacy invader'as you call me. I'm just telling you like it is.I understand you have all those "code of ethics" that you live by and thats ok, but those are yours you made up and are not the law.If you change you clothes with the curtains open you are inviting the world in and that how its works.If you are famous you know all of this and to get caught is pure stupidity on her part.Ladies and Gentemen of the Jury, I rest my case.

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Sep 23, 2012 18:08:57   #
PhotoStar Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 
Kate was comfortable enough to go out like she did, and took more than reasonable effort to get some privacy. So what if that revealed some bits. Leave her alone. Yes its possible to catch something like this, but its not in good taste. I wonder how someone knew they'd be there in the first place. But knowing the publics pension for controversy I don't think the royals were too smart and under estimating the lengths someone would go to to get a picture. Still, you have to be a bit of a dare devil to do it. If she covered her face, she's just be a naked body, then who'd care, they'd not know who she was for sure.

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Sep 23, 2012 18:21:11   #
Catalina30 Loc: Deep South
 
The point that we are missing is that if folks would not buy this trashy magazines, the tabloid (and the paparazzi)would be out of business. No demand, no supply.

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Sep 23, 2012 19:27:53   #
PhotoStar Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 
I don't think most here buy the magazines. I know I don't, never have. I hate bad pictures or low quality ones. Nudity doesn't bother me, but that's another topic. I agree publishing the photos was not good taste. But they are going to have to fight now for what happened. Discussions help us clarify our beliefs and our reasons, which is a good thing in my books. And if someone has beliefs different from mine, that's okay too.

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Sep 23, 2012 20:04:22   #
TdogKing
 
Kinda funny is look at the weekly photo contest here and this weeks topic is....you gussed it 'public places'...scroll through the entries thus far at what the general people think as public places...just saying

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Sep 23, 2012 21:21:13   #
richnash46 Loc: Texas
 
TdogKing wrote:
I don't think Paparazzi are doing anything wrong basically. They get paid to get pictures of famous (?) people who are out in public. If you don't want to be seen you can in most cases avoid it, but most seem to thrive on it and then complain about it. Most know the consequences when chasing the dream of being famous. If you don't want your topless pictures plastered all over the media then you better keep your top on or do a better job of staying concealed. Privacy is way different in todays world and thats a fact.
I don't think Paparazzi are doing anything wrong b... (show quote)


Confusedious Says:

If you want fame and fortune, you have to accept the negatives that come along with that as well as the positives; if not, then forsake the fame and fortune!

;) ;)

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Sep 23, 2012 23:10:03   #
william48 Loc: New Philadelphia,Ohio
 
If you are standing inside your home but fully visible through a window and a photographer takes your picture from the road or side walk is that an invasion of your privacy?When I Googled the privacy questions I found this scenario was discussed. The answer was that it was not an invasion of privacy according to this article. It seems that if you can be seen from public access you are considered in public and by standing in full veiw of the window you are displaying yourself.

I do not know if the photographer broke any laws but the publishers seem to have stepped over the line and used these pictures without permission of the subjects if these where considered to be private pictures taken in private. It may well be that these pictures where taken in public and if that is the case, then Kate may have learned a lesson.

This family was a victom of the press again. Will they ever learn?

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Sep 24, 2012 00:07:55   #
lost_found
 
rayford2 wrote:


The editorial seems more concerned about Royal Family pictures. I guess anyone else doesn't matter.

Paparazzi photographers have no morals; their main interest is the money.
One of the lowest occupations on earth.


right up there with politicians?

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Sep 24, 2012 00:16:19   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
When it comes to big money the law has never been much of a deterant. Whether it's paparazzi shooting the Royals, prohibition or Samsung ripping off Apple. A paltry slap on the wrist and you still made thousands, millions and even billions in profit, even after paying a billion in fines, not to mention that Closer gets FREE worldwide advertising.
Maybe it should be a wake-up call more than anything else. This time it was only the harmless press, next time a terrorist plot. Maybe some of you ex-military can tell us if a sniper can do damage at that distance. We live in a crazy world. This time, small foul-small harm.

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Sep 24, 2012 00:38:12   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Maybe it should be a wake-up call more than anything else. This time it was only the harmless press, next time a terrorist plot.
Maybe some of you ex-military can tell us if a sniper can do damage at that distance.
I suspect so - - Photo at 1.3 kilometers - about 1/2 the distance of these:
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2011/09/27/longest-sniper-shots-in-history/

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Sep 24, 2012 01:12:22   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
There is a 1200mm lens for a mere $120,000. That with a 2x extender would definitely the death of privacy.
I do agree, that this wouldn't be an issue if people won't buy the papers who publish these photos. Famous or not, you should have a "reasonable" expectation of privacy. What is going on here is a form of high tech harassment.
I won't do it but there are a ton who would.

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