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Sep 18, 2019 11:12:59   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
Cany143 wrote:
Its not a crater, Spidey. Its a canyon. Specifically, its a place along the roughly 40 mile stretch of the Salt Creek drainage where, after flowing through flatter, less 'canyon-y' land it suddenly drops. The dry fall there is called 'Lower Jump.' (Upper Jump, another --but slightly less dramatic-- dry fall drop is located many miles to the south, in a more often accessed (by foot) section of Salt Creek Canyon where there are numerous Ancestral Puebloan ruins, rock art sites, arches, bears, and beauty). Before Canyonlands was designated a National Park (in 1964), much of it was cattle country. There was plenty of mining exploration done in years past, but unlike so much of the region outside what today is the Needles, little mineral resources were ever found. As well, it seems that nobody needed any more red/orange rocks, either.

I've seen Salt Creek Canyon positively RAGE after a heavy rain. I'd like to see Lower Jump under such conditions, but getting there --and getting out again-- would be really, really tricky unless you waited a week (or a month) to let things dry out again.
Its not a crater, Spidey. Its a canyon. Specifica... (show quote)


Thanks for the excellent reply Jim. I have never been, but I sure would love to see your beautiful state. Your images bring it to life.

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Sep 18, 2019 12:42:18   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
Cany143 wrote:
Paul-- Considering your info, by all means --and only if it hasn't/isn't about to rain--, drive the Burr Trail. Easy day trip from where ever you may be staying, and if you can stretch that out into an overnight, its even better. Whatever you end up doing, you're gonna love the place.


Thank you. That's noted and before we go I'm going to write down all the places and features folk have recommended. Thank you once again!

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Sep 18, 2019 14:06:40   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Jim, another outstanding set! Again you make me want to drive back down to Moab, but I am trying to wait for fewer tourists.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:11:03   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
UTMike wrote:
Jim, another outstanding set! Again you make me want to drive back down to Moab, but I am trying to wait for fewer tourists.


No worries, Mike. (And thanks, of course.) The good news is you won't have much difficulty waiting for a time when there'll be fewer tourists. I'm sure they'll (mostly) all be gone in about 40,000 years. Give or take a week, naturally.

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Sep 18, 2019 14:43:28   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Cany143 wrote:
No worries, Mike. (And thanks, of course.) The good news is you won't have much difficulty waiting for a time when there'll be fewer tourists. I'm sure they'll (mostly) all be gone in about 40,000 years. Give or take a week, naturally.


Damn, my reservations are in 39,000 years.

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Sep 18, 2019 17:13:21   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Cany, these are great. As you know, I really appreciate the rock art. In your photo with the two panels, the left panel is pretty standard, the right panel not so much. It's hard to tell from the photo, is this the result of someone "defacing" an earlier work or the same artisan(?) with plenty of time on his hands? I've never seen anything like it. Just curious.

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Sep 18, 2019 17:38:58   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Cany, these are great. As you know, I really appreciate the rock art. In your photo with the two panels, the left panel is pretty standard, the right panel not so much. It's hard to tell from the photo, is this the result of someone "defacing" an earlier work or the same artisan(?) with plenty of time on his hands? I've never seen anything like it. Just curious.


There's no evidence of defacement that I can detect, at least not in 'modern' times. While its impossible to know absolutely, there appears to have been at least three distinct 'hands' (artisans, roquerteurs, whatever you want to call them) involved in the making of this panel. What I find 'interesting' about this particular set is the presence of what even I (and my criteria is more stringent than some) might call a single BCS (Barrier Canyon style - Archaic period/ca. 2000 bc -1 A.D.) figure --the painted anthro with the V-shaped head adornment and the gridded body -- on the left, with the remainder of the elements (both painted in red to the left of the rabbit-eared guy, and all the figures/meanders incised to the right which are typical of Late Prehistoric (ca. 950-1280 A.D. PII-PIII 'Anasazi') imagery.

Sites like this are always interesting, but they're a thousand times moreso when they're compared/contrasted to what else is in the more or less general vicinity.

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Sep 18, 2019 20:46:19   #
Swamp-Cork Loc: Lanexa, Virginia
 
Beautiful set!

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Sep 18, 2019 22:52:21   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
'Lest I be thought inconsiderate and an ingrate, howza 'bout now I say "thank you" to those who've taken a look and/or commented. Really. I do hope you've enjoyed the ride/perambulation as much as I have.

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Sep 19, 2019 05:32:08   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
Cany143 wrote:
The least visited section of the Needles District of Canyonlands NP lies north and west of the Visitor Center. Designated the Needles North Backpacking Zone, it forms a sizable portion of the district, and is dominated by larger and lesser canyons that terminate at the Colorado River. Access is either by hiking or by way of a 4WD road that parallels the archaeologically rich Salt Creek Canyon drainage.

The day was overcast. Hints of brightness broke through from time to time, but never enough to cast a hard edged shadow. The accompanying images are less 'photographs' than they are the products of a person with a camera who was overjoyed with the possibility of finally being able to get out to hike somewhere in less than triple digit temperatures.
The least visited section of the Needles District ... (show quote)


Excellent set Jim.

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Sep 19, 2019 05:39:44   #
AzShooter1 Loc: Surprise, Az.
 
Beautiful set.

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Sep 19, 2019 06:16:33   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Thanks for sharing your great photos. It is beautiful country.

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Sep 19, 2019 06:37:25   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Nice set!

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Sep 19, 2019 07:46:28   #
fbeaston Loc: Vermont
 
Yet another outstanding set of captures ... makes me realize just how little of the area I've seen & clearly suggests getting back there. I was particularly interested in the Petrogliphs & your explanation. Thank you for sharing. But I have 1 question ... do you leave your keys in the "Yeep" at night?

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Sep 19, 2019 07:57:32   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 

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