David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

I went back to my 2016 photos of Seville, Spain and tried again with a set of 3 photos I'd taken with the aim to create a panorama from, and had found that I was not able to "fill in" the black corners of sky that remained after the stitching--Lightroom will not allow "cloning" outside the limits of the original photo(s), it seems. I had abandoned the attempt at that point. Another one of the Hedgehogs here suggested I could maybe take the stitched composite and re-save it, and then import that version into Lightroom. So I opened the composite with Paint and saved it back as a jpeg, imported that one into Lightroom, and voila! I was then able to clone blank sky into the black corners! I did that (not perfectly--the gradation in color made it difficult, but I did a fair job of it) and then did my usual improvements (cropping, adjustsments to exposure, etc.); the resulting image was then saved back to my file and subsequently uploaded to Flickr alongside the photos used to create it. Here is the result:
Plaza de España in Seville, Spain
Seville pano 3a-1 by David Casteel, on Flickr

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Wow!

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

Thanks, Richard! (That was fast.)

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

Ha! I found another piece that could be added. Went through the same process and got this:
Seville pano 4a-1 by David Casteel, on Flickr

UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT

Excellent, David! Well worth the extra work.

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

Thanks Mike. I am happy with it. Both versions have been added to my Flickr Album. FWIW, the sky variation easily visible about 1/4 way from the top was not added by my manipulations--it was present in the original photos.

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abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

A lovely place and piece of work. I would crop the left slightly to remove the area lacking much interest. Too bad you missed the top of the steeple.

Without seeing the original panorama, I think you could have gotten the desired result in Photoshop. Details upon request.

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

abc1234, those ARE the original panoramae. (I had not saved the first attempt.) The photo of the tower was missing the very top of the steeple--I saved as much of it as had been captured (which is why I had to go to the trouble of filling in a lot of sky--the other photos had not included as much of it). I don't always plan well when taking a series, it seems. (One time where it would help to use a tripod.)

I do have Photoshop, but I've never tried it. I like Lightroom, and it does most of what I need.

Regarding cropping, I presume you preferred the first version, before I added the 4th picture to the stitch. I'm not sure but I do, too, but I had taken that 4th photo and wanted to see what it would add. From a documentary standpoint, the wider panorama is better, but the other is maybe more "artsy".

bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA

I like your perspective, however it would have been nice if the top of the tower was visible.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

David, thank you for the detailed answer. Minor point: "The plural form of panorama is panoramas or panoramata (rare)." I think the last is from the Latin but it has been a long time.

Sounds like we share the same problem. Missing something we should not have and noticed too late. I commiserate with you. You seem thoughtful and diligent but we all are Monday-morning-quarterbacks.

I do over 90% of my editing in LR but PS, for me, does some specific things LR does not. Panoramas are one. I like stitching in LR to know where I am in the process. PS gives you the same result. My LR panoramas often have white, unfilled areas around the margins but the fixing tools are better in PS. Here is how I do it. Select the white areas, expand by two to five pixels, feather possibly, hit control-F5 (I think) with content aware and the areas fill. A seam appears sometimes so take the healing tool and zap it away. Done. Save, close and return to LR.

I do not have your picture in front of me but I would crop near the light post. This is a pretty shot with a great sky. I am surprised to see no people. The building is interesting and everything is so nice and crisp. Thanks for posting.

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

Would you include or exclude the light pole? You may have noticed that I did a little "clone" fixing of that corner, too. The crop you recommend would cut out most of that fixing (not a problem). Regarding the lack of people--I was fortunate to find a moment when very few were in the pictures. My tour group had moved on to another spot.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

David, here is my take. Only a matter of taste. If you wanted to be really clever, you could find another picture with the rest of the steeple and add it on to yours. I like that you plumbed everything. This crop focuses more on the church. The canal works great with that reflection and the graceful curve.

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David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

I did find another photo, from a slightly different angle and time, that had the full spire and attempted to include it in the panorama. Unfortunately, that resulted in some minor ghosting. I tried cropping that additional picture down to just the spire and Autostitch just wouldn't include it when it processed the panorama. I tried doing the panorama in Lightroom, and it just won't accept it, with or without the added spire photo. LR will work with the panorama that included the full additional photo (with the ghosts), so I have the option of accepting ghosts or missing the top of the spire. (I have not tried Photoshop--it's on my computer but I've never attempted to run it.)

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

Save this trick for when you are up to it. Go to image size and add space to the top of the artboard by anchoring the image to the bottom. Make a new layer. Copy the new spire to the new layer and resize and rotate as needed so that it fits on the main image. Merge the visible layers so that you have the original shot plus the spire top surrounded by white. Select the white and do a content aware fill as I described earlier. This is the general approach and you will have to iron out the details but it will work.