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Aug 23, 2019 11:33:37   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
I DID NOT say I blame Trump, nor did I even suggest that. I only said the facts presented by the OP in this thread as self-evident show that he has failed in his promise, so far.
Read what I write, without trying to distort, or guess my intent.

Well, saying he failed in his promise is blaming him for not fulfilling a promise, is it not?

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Aug 23, 2019 11:46:21   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigBear wrote:
If you love the USA, then why are all of you pushing to change it to something it was never intended to be ??


You question is baseless. i think you know that; but here goes because you apparently need explanation: I and those other “evil Dems” are not pushing to change the United States into something that it was never intended to be. That is simply not true.
Are you so narrow-minded to not understand that in a Democracy, there are opposing viewpoints—different visions of what a country should be, contrasting thoughts about the role of government, and conflicting ideas about the measures that should be taken to secure “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” for all citizens?
This country was founded, in part, on divergency. You vision of a great country is yours, and valid; but it is not always, what others envision of a great country.
We have our ideas of what the country should be, and you have yours, and hopefully, for the most part, we agree—but not necessarily. Still, we live together, and hope for the common good.
In short, wake up to others and understand that your opinions are not shared by all.

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Aug 23, 2019 11:56:05   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigBear wrote:
Because he naively figured that congress would do what was expected of it, which is do what is proper for America. Nobody expected any of them to be totally negligent in their duties as to block everything he tried to do.


He mislead you, and the voters in this country. His mind is void of ideas to make “America Great Again”, But he said it, and supporters chanted it like it was so easy. Trump’s promise was a childish lie, that idiots bought into.
Good Lord, even Trump, as ill-prepared as he was for the Presidency, was not so naive to have not understood that the Presidency is not a dictatorship, that he would be opposed at times, and that he was accountable to the other two branches of government. Didn’t Trump watch McConnell obstruct his predecessor at every junction?
Who is naive here?

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Aug 23, 2019 12:07:46   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Well, saying he failed in his promise is blaming him for not fulfilling a promise, is it not?


No, it is NOT. No, No, No. Think beyond the obvious.
He made a ridiculous, vague promise that could not be fulfilled.
I fault him for making a hollow promise; and I further fault the idiots who fell for it.
Who can even define what the word “great” means?
I only brought it up in this thread, because the facts in the opening post, are a far cry from anyone’s definition of “great”; and fact number #5 inferred Democratic responsibility,

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Aug 23, 2019 12:10:02   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You question is baseless. i think you know that; but here goes because you apparently need explanation: I and those other “evil Dems” are not pushing to change the United States into something that it was never intended to be. That is simply not true.
Are you so narrow-minded to not understand that in a Democracy, there are opposing viewpoints—different visions of what a country should be, contrasting thoughts about the role of government, and conflicting ideas about the measures that should be taken to secure “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” for all citizens?
This country was founded, in part, on divergency. You vision of a great country is yours, and valid; but it is not always, what others envision of a great country.
We have our ideas of what the country should be, and you have yours, and hopefully, for the most part, we agree—but not necessarily. Still, we live together, and hope for the common good.
In short, wake up to others and understand that your opinions are not shared by all.
You question is baseless. i think you know that; ... (show quote)


The US is not, never was and hopefully never will be a democracy.

Read a book.

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Aug 23, 2019 12:12:03   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Little Frankie, so are you denying people are pooping in the streets in California? Careful, I have been to SF and seen it myself as well as LA.


Figures you'd be staying with the homeless.
Maybe you need to get a job

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Aug 23, 2019 12:13:19   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Frank T wrote:
Figures you'd be staying with the homeless.
Maybe you need to get a job


So what did you do for those charities Frank?

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Aug 23, 2019 12:22:50   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LWW wrote:
The US is not, never was and hopefully never will be a democracy.

Read a book.


There is a distinction between democracy and democratic republic. That makes all the difference.
Again, you shine in your esoteric knowledge.

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Aug 23, 2019 12:26:37   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You question is baseless. i think you know that; but here goes because you apparently need explanation: I and those other “evil Dems” are not pushing to change the United States into something that it was never intended to be. That is simply not true.
Are you so narrow-minded to not understand that in a Democracy, there are opposing viewpoints—different visions of what a country should be, contrasting thoughts about the role of government, and conflicting ideas about the measures that should be taken to secure “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” for all citizens?
This country was founded, in part, on divergency. You vision of a great country is yours, and valid; but it is not always, what others envision of a great country.
We have our ideas of what the country should be, and you have yours, and hopefully, for the most part, we agree—but not necessarily. Still, we live together, and hope for the common good.
In short, wake up to others and understand that your opinions are not shared by all.
You question is baseless. i think you know that; ... (show quote)


We also have a Constitution that speaks for us. And it says that you cannot do the things that you want to do to change this country. It is anti-SocialCommunist.

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Aug 23, 2019 12:30:53   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
He mislead you, and the voters in this country. His mind is void of ideas to make “America Great Again”, But he said it, and supporters chanted it like it was so easy. Trump’s promise was a childish lie, that idiots bought into.
Good Lord, even Trump, as ill-prepared as he was for the Presidency, was not so naive to have not understood that the Presidency is not a dictatorship, that he would be opposed at times, and that he was accountable to the other two branches of government. Didn’t Trump watch McConnell obstruct his predecessor at every junction?
Who is naive here?
He mislead you, and the voters in this country. H... (show quote)


It is obvious that you have no respect for our American values as written in our Constitution.

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Aug 23, 2019 12:48:29   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigBear wrote:
It is obvious that you have no respect for our American values as written in our Constitution.


How can you make such a judgement?
Certainly not based on what I have said here.
Why do you "think" that?
You have no conception of my "American values".
What "things" do I want to do that are in contrast to the Constitution?

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Aug 23, 2019 13:32:49   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
How can you make such a judgement?
Certainly not based on what I have said here.
Why do you "think" that?
You have no conception of my "American values".
What "things" do I want to do that are in contrast to the Constitution?


You have aligned yourself with democrats and argue against conservatives, who want our Constitutional laws enforced, to push for more liberal agendas.

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Aug 23, 2019 13:48:47   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
BigBear wrote:
You have aligned yourself with democrats and argue against conservatives, who want our Constitutional laws enforced, to push for more liberal agendas.


News flash: Not all liberals hate this country or the Constitution; nor do all conservatives. We are all Americans, despite political, racial, religeous differences.

Your conclusion smacks of unfounded prejudice, and intolerance.

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Aug 23, 2019 13:53:55   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
because the facts in the opening post, are a far cry from anyone’s definition of “great”; and fact number #5 inferred Democratic responsibility,


Why not blame Democrats:

1. Sanctuary cities, where law breakers are protected (Democrat controlled government)
2. Used drug needles found on the sidewalks (Democrat controlled government)
3. Feces found on the sidewalks (Democrat controlled government)
4. Dozens of people getting shot every weekend in the inner cities. (Democrat controlled government)
5. Democrat elected officials are fixing the problems (Democrat controlled government doing nothing)

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Aug 23, 2019 13:58:14   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
travelwp wrote:
Why not blame Democrats:

1. Sanctuary cities, where law breakers are protected (Democrat controlled government)
2. Used drug needles found on the sidewalks (Democrat controlled government)
3. Feces found on the sidewalks (Democrat controlled government)
4. Dozens of people getting shot every weekend in the inner cities. (Democrat controlled government)
5. Democrat elected officials are fixing the problems (Democrat controlled government doing nothing)


You must live in a cave to think those problems, and appropriate remedy belong to one party.

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