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Aug 16, 2019 14:24:19   #
pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Definitely! It's hard to go out in public without seeing someone taking pictures with a phone. A DSLR, on the other hand, is big and unusual, so it gets the attention of people nearby.


I have that same problem too when I'm shooting street scenes. This is not only with people but with animals too. I have a beautiful German Shepard. When I try to take pictures of him he runs away. You'd think I was pointing a gun at him.

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Aug 16, 2019 14:40:55   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
pdsilen wrote:
I have that same problem too when I'm shooting street scenes. This is not only with people but with animals too. I have a beautiful German Shepard. When I try to take pictures of him he runs away. You'd think I was pointing a gun at him.
Our cats have started acting like that for me - I think they’re tired of having light flashed in their eyes.

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Aug 16, 2019 17:20:43   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
billnikon wrote:
First, I never aim my phone camera toward strangers, especially to take their image, I believe it is an invasion of their privacy. If I have my DSLR camera with me I always ASK PERMISSION to take a candid photo. I have never been turned down and I have actually made some friends that way.



Just what privacy do you really expect to have in a public setting?

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Aug 16, 2019 17:37:41   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
First, I never aim my phone camera toward strangers, especially to take their image, I believe it is an invasion of their privacy. If I have my DSLR camera with me I always ASK PERMISSION to take a candid photo. I have never been turned down and I have actually made some friends that way.
At one time I would say to people, "I'm going to take a picture of that train station; if you don't want to be in it, you'll have to move"; now I just take the photograph. They are in a public space.

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Aug 16, 2019 17:53:58   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
rehess wrote:
but the whole ambiance of ‘Street Shooting’ is catching people as they are in absence of camera {or just as they notice it}


You do whatever you like. And I will shot the way I like.

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Aug 16, 2019 18:18:27   #
fotoman150
 
I have heard of a social experiment where they have a woman taking pictures with a camera at a public pool and no one bothers her. Then they put a man doing the same thing and within a minute someone challenges him. Men are profiled like people who are black. Men are considered serial killers and Sex offenders until proven otherwise.

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Aug 16, 2019 21:07:44   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I have heard of a social experiment where they have a woman taking pictures with a camera at a public pool and no one bothers her. Then they put a man doing the same thing and within a minute someone challenges him. Men are profiled like people who are black. Men are considered serial killers and Sex offenders until proven otherwise.


That is an interesting experiment. I had never thought of photography that way. Thanks for the enlightenment!

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Aug 16, 2019 21:35:08   #
fotoman150
 
Scruples wrote:
That is an interesting experiment. I had never thought of photography that way. Thanks for the enlightenment!


Yeah and all it takes is an accusation and you lose everything, your reputation, job, even your freedom.

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Aug 17, 2019 00:00:49   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
fotoman150 wrote:
Yeah and all it takes is an accusation and you lose everything, your reputation, job, even your freedom.


I definitely don't want to lose my freedoms!

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Aug 17, 2019 01:08:12   #
Dean37 Loc: Fresno, CA
 
I will not take photos of people, unless requested to do so, phone or camera, family and other gatherings where others are taking photos of the people are exceptions. I have heard that "out in public" everyone is fair game, I don't want to have a judge tell me that is wrong.

I have noticed the same thing about phones vs cameras. They don't seem to react as much when you have a small pocket camera, about the same to a phone, as when you have an SLR, digital or film, especially with a big lens. It may be that the camera is more related to law enforcement, or newspapers, or TV News, investigations, etc.

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Aug 17, 2019 01:32:06   #
Abo
 
SoTexPhoto wrote:
It might be me but I wonder if others see this. It seems that I can use my phone and take pictures of just about anything and nobody seems to pay attention. But when I am out with my dlsr it seems like people get shy or nervous if it’s pointed anywhere near their direction. Most recently in SeaTac airport. Just a pic of a lot of flyers that day. With my phone it was like I was invisible. Take out a dslr, even with a small 35mm prime and it was different. My friend just returned from Lisbon. I know he travels with a mirror-less Sony. I asked him about this and he said he experienced the same thing.

It probably can be attributed to millions of phones out there and their hundreds of millions (billions?) of photos. But I am just curious if others see this.
It might be me but I wonder if others see this. I... (show quote)


It's a syndrome.

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Aug 17, 2019 02:14:39   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I have heard of a social experiment where they have a woman taking pictures with a camera at a public pool and no one bothers her. Then they put a man doing the same thing and within a minute someone challenges him. Men are profiled like people who are black. Men are considered serial killers and Sex offenders until proven otherwise.


Maybe just maybe it is that most sex offenders and serial killers have been men. just saying

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Aug 17, 2019 09:12:14   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Tomcat5133 wrote:
I posted this once before. One of the most successful travel journalist photographers wrote a story
about his experiences in many countries. He started with a Canon and a full set of lens.
Eventually he went with a mirrorless and the was OK but in some places sometimes people were wary
or annoyed by the camera. He eventually switched to one of the smaller high quality compacts with
a smaller lens on it. He said it worked in very dicey and interesting places.
That said I think people have become very wary of full size camera's. It is just the culture today.
I posted this once before. One of the most success... (show quote)


You are so on target. Society keeps asking why are these terrible things happening. I read years ago by the time a kid grows up today he or she has seen thousands of murders in movies and video games. Even Disney shows my grandkids used to watch shocked me at how crude and aggressive the shows were. And the girls dressed too sexy for thier age. We are now portraying the US as an angry country. This is not true. Some are angry but most people I meet are reasonable and cordial. Kindness has not left. I practice it everyday.

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Aug 17, 2019 10:22:57   #
fotoman150
 
dwmoar wrote:
Maybe just maybe it is that most sex offenders and serial killers have been men. just saying


Yes but the number of sex offenders and serial killers compared to the number of normal men is minuscule. It’s a bunch of hysteria. It’s profiling men.

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Aug 17, 2019 10:23:50   #
fotoman150
 
Absolutely!

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