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Aug 9, 2019 19:30:03   #
jrichter
 
via the lens wrote:
First,ask your relative if you can bring the camera, it is, after all, his wedding. Having said that, if there is a contract with the professional photographer regarding no other camera, which does seem extreme to me, you could cause a problem for your relative if you bring your camera. Perhaps you should just resist and enjoy the wedding.


And then 50 other people bring their cameras.

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Aug 9, 2019 21:47:11   #
aardq
 
Just contact the hired pro and ask if he would allow pocket cameras at the reception. Follow what he says. Otherwise, just leave the camera at home and enjoy the wedding and the reception.

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Aug 10, 2019 04:52:11   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
lyndacast wrote:
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They have hired a professional photographer whose contract is pretty explicit about not allowing other photographers to shoot....which I understand completely and respect!

That being said, I plan to bring a camera to take more candid, unposed and random photos. I do not want to interfere with professional photographers, but can’t resist bringing a camera...

What suggestions do you have for me to stay out of their way, but still get some great shots to share with family/friends?
My nephew is getting married next weekend. They h... (show quote)


Why are you asking us when you already know the answer?

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Aug 10, 2019 04:55:49   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rehess wrote:
and some of us get tired of having the entire 'show' run by the guy who charges so much that only later do the bridal couple realize what they have gotten themselves into.


I hate to be a pr*** here, but how do you know so much on this topic? How many times have you gotten married. Trying to beat Liz Taylor's record? How do you get tired of something bad happening to you once?

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Aug 10, 2019 04:59:46   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
LBuddG wrote:
I was a pro photographer through my entire adult life doing weddings, bar & bat mitzvahs, 50th's, etc. Everyone I worked for had the "exclusive" in their contract incl me, when I went on my own. I shot my last paying job in 8/2009. Back in the 1970's we worked almost exclusively with multiple lights. A "light-man" (kind of a human light stand who carried the off camera light to open bachgrounds, give a more 'main-key light to the camera light as the fill for a more portraity effect on formals, various groupings [one or more YOU might be in being an uncle.] Theoretically he's also learning what the photog'r does, how it's done, & how to handle all the various personality types esp when they're at their most nervous & excited point of their lives...a photog'r if he's good is sometimes more psychologist than picture taker. That second light used a white light flash slave. If someone was shooting our posed shots we often worked our way behind the subjects & pointed 200 w/s towards the offender & if he had an SLR & closed his other eye, he'd never know that his pic was ruined till next week after devlpmnt. Generally think this way, besides his making a living at it...yeah sales are great...think of what happens when people are set up & there's 2 or more cameras. If it's the bride & groom one or both, in confusion might be looking back & forth between the cams, in essence a ruined picture & you can imagine if it's a group shot of 4, 7, 14, etc.
Usually, if you weren't interfering with what I "NEEDED" TO GET, I didn't much mind, within reason (ie: you'd get shots of your own friends &/or family, people at your table, etc. Just stay away from him even at the reception...the 2 cams problem again...even on a dance floor. I actually agree with the guy who said to call the studio...or approach him at a time he's not busy & ask him...tell him what you'd like to get & if you stick to plan, would that be OK. Also tell him his pix are #1 & if he quietly says "cool it" you'll put it away. A cam slung over your shoulder will not get the sunjects darting their eyes, not sure which will shoot 1st. There's much more but I have to stop. 1 more thing though...you can also ask him if he can, during an off (slow) moment at recptn take a couple or more pix of YOUR family (wife, kids, grandkids, etc.) Who knows...you might get a few nice shots (& have to pay for them too), & it 'could' look like you went to a family affair &
had a nice time....MAYBE EVEN DANCED! When we had a celebration for one of my kids, my pro friend started to ask me if I wanted to....I cut him off & said, "Just put me where you want me, call your expressions, get the shots you know you need...then leave me the "F" alone! I had the time of my life...& it CAN be done without having a camera within your reach. Sometimes your feeling like preserving great memories makes them not so great for YOU. You're thinking of what to get & how to get it makes you miss some of the most beautiful of what happens...what is said about grandma in the old days, a funny comment from a 5 year old grand niece & her wedding plans...well...you get it...I hope.
I was a pro photographer through my entire adult l... (show quote)


Great post (reply)!

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Aug 10, 2019 05:02:58   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Michael1079 wrote:
Oh, wow...when I first read the OP's post, I thought to myself, "This is going to bring out the *UGLY* in Ugly Hedgehog."

Three things to never discuss in this forum: Religion, Politics, and Wedding Photography.

Peace, everyone...





I second that!

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Aug 10, 2019 05:11:03   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Would you want curious helpers to jump in and help the surgeon during your brain surgery? Say Uncle Jose pushes in front of the surgical nurse to get a hand in it.

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Aug 10, 2019 07:53:19   #
Hip Coyote
 
I agree that your taking photos there could be a violation of the contract and could cause the photographer to walk off, get upset etc. Having just gone through one of our adult children’s wedding I can assure you can add NOTHING to the number or quality of photographs taken by the pro. It is also possible that they will have a videographer there as well. Where you might be an asset is at the rehearsal the night before and rehearsal dinner if there is going to be one. Often there are scant photos of those more informal events.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:00:01   #
BebuLamar
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I hate to be a pr*** here, but how do you know so much on this topic? How many times have you gotten married. Trying to beat Liz Taylor's record? How do you get tired of something bad happening to you once?


I got married once. I don't care for any pictures.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:09:23   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I hate to be a pr*** here, but how do you know so much on this topic? How many times have you gotten married. Trying to beat Liz Taylor's record? How do you get tired of something bad happening to you once?

Like many here, I went to too many {like more than zero} weddings where the photographer, not the pastor, ran the whole show, and guests were reduced to audience. I have been married once - for forty years now; when we were married our friends gave us photos as part of our present {they had SLRs but not much money as was common amongst recent grads in 1979}. In 1988 my sister-in-law asked me to take photos at their wedding {that way they could afford to make a Greenwich Village loft work}; the woman who owned the loft asked where I had come from - she had never seen such a polite and unobtrusive photographer before. So, the answer is a clear "NO".

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Aug 10, 2019 08:19:08   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Would you want curious helpers to jump in and help the surgeon during your brain surgery? Say Uncle Jose pushes in front of the surgical nurse to get a hand in it.

I have never said that amateurs should interfere with the PROFESSIONAL, but they do perform in public just as waiters and the cake baker do. I am going to a wedding in two hours, and hope to take a few photos at the reception, of the guests, hopefully of the guests taking photos. At our daughter's wedding in January she introduced us to the Professional, who was very polite. I noticed at the reception that we took turns following each other around; I took a few photos of her taking photos and she watched me to see which guests were especially "important" to the bridal couple.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:28:20   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Did the pro photographers say no cell phone shots
I have a problem with wedding photographers who say
No other shooters. They have the right to have a handler
With them who orchestrates the shot and asks people to step back.
If someone has a mirrorless camera and wants to take shots what
Is the big deal. I found the more rules you create the more problems you have.
If it’s the official group shots that is usually done somewhere aside.
The big problem is for video more then stills.

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Aug 10, 2019 08:40:57   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I prefer a journalistic approach that has become the approach for high end wedding shooters.
In my video of events sports etc I run and gun. We ask for interview comments on the fly. The
way I explain it to my client who trusts me I want the viewer to feel they were their in the moment.
Stopping a triathlon competitor as an ambush in the registration sometimes gets great responses.

Now I think the wedding couple is expecting too much most of the time. Uncle Tanoose May never get in a shot. I see wedding photography now that looks like an advertisement. On the dune looking
Out at the sunset. Oh well.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:22:19   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I got married once. I don't care for any pictures.


That's an answer. I was not specifically asking you. We didn't have any either as we got married in a minster's office 35 some years ago.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:48:32   #
tetherington
 
I think the photographer is afraid of competition. I videoed one wedding in addition to the pro. He offered me a job. I took stills of another wedding in addition to a pro. The pro lost all the film so mine were the only pictures. I took candid stills at another. I took a natural light photo of the bride and groomed posed by the pro. They preferred my photo to the one they paid for.

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