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Jul 20, 2019 20:11:23   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I put my hood on my long lens in the reverse position when I put the camera with that lens in my bag because it doesn't fit otherwise. When I take it out of the bag to use it I put the hood on the useful way. When I'm shooting, I can put it in the bag that way but I can't zip it.

I use two bodies so I can swap them for different lenses. Otherwise I could put the lens and body in the bag the long way.

Lenses in storage get the hood in whichever way it fits in the storage.

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Jul 20, 2019 20:30:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Timmers wrote:
Sorry, I don't understand this, "don't do what?" Watch U-tube videos? I know a huge amount of the subject and yes a lot of it is idiocy. I received a remote release for my Sony 7A and as usual the instruction sheet was useless. I went to U Tube, and found the correct instructions and was pleased to get the silly thing working.

Yes there is a lot of stupid crap on U-tube on all subjects. One should always look into books to find quality information. But U-Tube is an opinion based system, the more you know the more you can make decisions about the idiocy on U-Tube.
Sorry, I don't understand this, "don't do wha... (show quote)


Not watch U-tube, use the lens with the hood in storage mode.

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Jul 20, 2019 20:50:05   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Maybe it LAZINESS? Perhaps it just that the really DON'T understand what a lens shade is supposed to do? Maybe they like flare as a special effect and don't have a "light leak" or "lens flare" plugin for their post-processing system. Or...it could be that the are using the wrong lens shade and it is vignetting so they just fold it back.

Could be a '"style" thing. Up here in Canada, y'all may have heard that the Winters are very cold! So... I see this young fellow standing in the street in the dead of Winter, waiting for a bus and shivering and turning blue- with his nice warm sweater tied aroud his waist. Fearing he woud die of hypothermia, I approached him and inquired as to why he did not don his sweater properly. He said, "it's the style-man! Good thing the bus came!

Seriously. Some folks don't care about lens shades but I do, especially in certin conditions like shooting against the sun- backlighting! In my studio, for portraits, I use lots of kicker or accent lights which strike the subject from about 135 degrees to the camer/subject axis. With so-called rim or profile lighting, you are looking for trouble without a shade. Pop on a filter and you have double-trouble!

For y'all Ansel fans, in one of his books and in a workshop I attended long ago, he illustrated how he makes his own lens shades out of black construction paper. His method was to make the shade deep enough so that it was just a hair short of vignetting at your working aperture so as to maxamize its efficiency. He must have though flare prevention is important.

I have several compendium (bellows) lens shades that I use to abide by Ansel's lessons. In the studio, I even have a gobo on a gooseneck stand that I can use to shield the lens from stray light for critically placed kickers. A small black collapsible gobo accompanies me on all out-of-door assignments.

I hope this doesn't become an pro and anti lens shad argument- like with filters. If any of you don't like lens shades and have no issues- more power to ya. All I can contribute to the conversation is how and why I use mine.

Why folks do strange things? Beats me!

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Jul 20, 2019 21:06:01   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
I have a Sony A7 also, the 35mm Leica and 28mm Leica R lenses, the hoods don't reverse, just come off, and the 100mm Macro lens, it retracts into the lens itself. Then the 60mm macro lens does have a lens hood, just a deep recessed lens front. I like-a-Leicas.

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Jul 20, 2019 21:20:28   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Maybe it LAZINESS? Perhaps it just that the really DON'T understand what a lens shade is supposed to do? Maybe they like flare as a special effect and don't have a "light leak" or "lens flare" plugin for their post-processing system. Or...it could be that the are using the wrong lens shade and it is vignetting so they just fold it back.

Could be a '"style" thing. Up here in Canada, y'all may have heard that the Winters are very cold! So... I see this young fellow standing in the street in the dead of Winter, waiting for a bus and shivering and turning blue- with his nice warm sweater tied aroud his waist. Fearing he woud die of hypothermia, I approached him and inquired as to why he did not don his sweater properly. He said, "it's the style-man! Good thing the bus came!

Seriously. Some folks don't care about lens shades but I do, especially in certin conditions like shooting against the sun- backlighting! In my studio, for portraits, I use lots of kicker or accent lights which strike the subject from about 135 degrees to the camer/subject axis. With so-called rim or profile lighting, you are looking for trouble without a shade. Pop on a filter and you have double-trouble!

For y'all Ansel fans, in one of his books and in a workshop I attended long ago, he illustrated how he makes his own lens shades out of black construction paper. His method was to make the shade deep enough so that it was just a hair short of vignetting at your working aperture so as to maxamize its efficiency. He must have though flare prevention is important.

I have several compendium (bellows) lens shades that I use to abide by Ansel's lessons. In the studio, I even have a gobo on a gooseneck stand that I can use to shield the lens from stray light for critically placed kickers. A small black collapsible gobo accompanies me on all out-of-door assignments.

I hope this doesn't become an pro and anti lens shad argument- like with filters. If any of you don't like lens shades and have no issues- more power to ya. All I can contribute to the conversation is how and why I use mine.

Why folks do strange things? Beats me!
Maybe it LAZINESS? Perhaps it just that the reall... (show quote)


I always use a lens shade, but never realized I was being stylish.

Nice write-up.

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Jul 20, 2019 22:29:41   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
grandpaw wrote:
I watch a ton of photography videos and a lot of them shoot with the sun shade in the storage or reverse position. For the life of me I can't understand any scenario where this would be the way to go. Besides not blocking the sun or help protecting the front lens it just gets in the way. What am I missing here.

In some videos the hood is also mounted properly, and this presents a huge problem … when you are incapable of thinking for yourself, how are you supposed to know which one to copy??

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Jul 20, 2019 22:38:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Leitz wrote:
In some videos the hood is also mounted properly, and this presents a huge problem … when you are incapable of thinking for yourself, how are you supposed to know which one to copy??

<smirk>

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Jul 21, 2019 00:15:45   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Because it looks cool.

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Jul 21, 2019 03:42:11   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
grandpaw wrote:
I always am trying to learn everything about photography that I can. If there is a reason so many are doing this I would like to know why and if there is some benefit. I always use mine and they are on where they protect the lens from the sun and from bumps on the front element but I would like to know if there is something that I am missing or not aware of. I am always interested in learning something new.


There's nothing new about being lazy or misusing something. Think of it like the people who wear baseball style caps at an angle of like the people who walk around with there pants partially down and their underwear showing. Is there really anything to be learned from those people?!
Do you really think the folks who use their cameras with the lens hood in the storage position are really on to something and know more about it than the people who designed it? Lens hoods are designed to serve a purpose and they actually do serve a purpose. Continue to use your lens hoods as the designers and manufactures intended, you won't go wrong. Ignore the people who are too lazy or too ignorant to attach the lens hood properly. You have nothing to learn from them.

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Jul 21, 2019 05:31:00   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Maybe it was reversed to make it easier to access the CPL.

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Jul 21, 2019 05:39:48   #
gtheodore Loc: Fort Collins CO
 
Recently, my wife was in an accident that knocked her down to the pavement. She suffered several fractures to her pelvic area. She was shooting a Nikon D750 with a 28-300 lens with the lens hood on. Lens hood broke; no damage to lens. That’s your best bet to avoiding scratching or any other damage to the front element. Will it work all the time? Nothing does but that lens hood gives you a lot more protection than a UV or other clear filter mounted on your lenses.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:12:07   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Timmers wrote:
I will catch hell for this but here goes.

I never use lens shades, I find them quite useless. For the Hasselblad years ago I sued the compendium, mostly to hold gel filters and frankly because it looked kool!

The other armature camera accessory was a camera strap. I used detachable ones and only when I actually needed one.

I have done a lot of natural light images and like the old saw I do back lighted subjects. To do this is that 3 foot collapsible black and silver disk. The only thing it reflects is the sun, it is held or mounted on a stand, silver side up with the black facing down. This keeps the sun light off the whole camera and by the way me. I have a clamp that holds the camera and an umbrella togeather as well. I even carry a black cloth to pitch down on the ground to keep bounce back off the ground.

Now I know this seems silly. I'm interested in capturing really great images, I take it quite seriously what I'm doing. I have never had anyone, even police do anything other than ask me questions about how I am working and how it improves an image. To be 'professional' act like a pro, and by taking it all seriously like a heart attack you will come across as serious and people will treat you seriously. Having a lens shade on the camera is not going to mark you as a serious guy, nor a 'professional'.

Natural lighted portrait by window, Leica IIIc, 8.5CM f1.7 Sumilux, Tri-X film hand held (no lens hood).
I will catch hell for this but here goes. br br I... (show quote)


You're not going to catch hell from me. You are doing what makes you a photographer.

I'm sure that Leonardo DaVinci had someone tap him on the shoulder and tell him to have the model look off to one side and he should use a different brush. Leo probably told that critic to get away from him.

I remember a funny story about a man who wore his pants backwards. It didn't matter what type of pants. It could be dungarees or pressed wool. He would always spend a great deal of time sitting down. He would spend a great deal of time going to the bathroom. Everyone laughed at him and thought he was mentally ill. Then a little boy asked him why he wore his pants backwards. Everyone else gasped.
The man said I'll show you why. He turned around and unzipped his pants. Sure enough, out popped a six inch tail from behind.

People will do what makes them feel comfortable. I will never question your motives for doing something. I'll just admire your work.

The model is beautiful and you have captured her perfectly.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:13:30   #
pauldh Loc: Melbourne, Australia
 
Isn't the Lens Hood (shade) meant to reduce or avoid lens flare? Maybe when lens flare is not an issue it doesn't matter if its stored but its handy and readily available.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:14:49   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
gtheodore wrote:
Recently, my wife was in an accident that knocked her down to the pavement. She suffered several fractures to her pelvic area. She was shooting a Nikon D750 with a 28-300 lens with the lens hood on. Lens hood broke; no damage to lens. That’s your best bet to avoiding scratching or any other damage to the front element. Will it work all the time? Nothing does but that lens hood gives you a lot more protection than a UV or other clear filter mounted on your lenses.


I'm not really interested in how the camera faired. I do hope your wife did not suffer greatly. I hope she feels better.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:20:50   #
Stephan G
 
grandpaw wrote:
I watch a ton of photography videos and a lot of them shoot with the sun shade in the storage or reverse position. For the life of me I can't understand any scenario where this would be the way to go. Besides not blocking the sun or help protecting the front lens it just gets in the way. What am I missing here.


It becomes simply a matter of convenience to most who do this.

It also reminds them to take the lens cap off.

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