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Jul 19, 2019 13:48:33   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
billnikon wrote:
OK, then, "Nice".


Well said billnikon.

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Jul 19, 2019 13:50:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Often I create multi-media stories - words and photos. The words add to the photos while the photos reinforce the words.

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Jul 19, 2019 14:18:38   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
jtwind wrote:
What do you want from your photography? Capture a moment in time, a memory, somehow express an emotion, win a contest, tell a story? It matters, if you want to make a living or "win" in the online parade of over saturated one ups man ship type of images it's tough! My notion is pretty simple, do what you like and enjoy. When I see an image I like I try not to compare in my mind if it's better than what I do, (every one's photos seem to look better than mine] but try to appreciate the mood and impact of the photo and learn what was done to convey that. These days the small anonymous landscapes that keep me entertained.
What do you want from your photography? Capture a... (show quote)


Very nice photographs.

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Jul 19, 2019 20:34:49   #
Penny Gehrig
 
Well Old Man, I'm an old lady. What I find is there are photographers who are purist. They make the camera create the results you want. We had to do that with film and some burning and dodging in the dark room. Now I don't think the photographers are better than us. They just use photoshop and Lightroom do the work for them.

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Jul 19, 2019 20:55:00   #
theoldman
 
The wisdom, insights, humor, and counsel expressed in all the comments speak for themselves. I am a relative newcomer here , and pleased to be a member of a group of intelligent, respectful, and thoughtful individuals. I wonder if maybe an interest in photography goes hand in hand with intelligence and reasoned discourse.

I think the only reply I will make is that if your thinking and writing is as good as exhibited here, and I acknowledge and appreciate the diversity of opinion, you are hiding at least part of your light under a bushel (old time saying) by not adding your written thoughts to your images.....that is our loss.

Dave

The Old Man

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Jul 19, 2019 21:55:20   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Seems to me that a lot of folks around here are suffering with "photographer's block", that is, a photographic version of writer's block. Basically, the malady is a sudden decrease in creativity, an uninspired approach to photograhy, a dearth of unique or new ideas in one's personal work and a bad case of the image blahs or blues! The symptoms/side effects are a "been there-done that" defeatist attitude, complaining about the stagnation of photographic artistry and savvy, and a tendency to assign blame to a number of trends such as digital photograhy, cellphone cameras, prefiltration of casual and do-it-yourself-photograhy and the untimely demise of the iconic photographers of the past. I mean, it a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age he had been dead for some 50 years!

One could see their doctor about anti-depressant medication, consult with their naturopath if they don't like drugs or take up Yoga. Electroconvulsive shock therapy- well- don't try it at home with your strobe or speedlight. Kidding aside, my remedy is CHALLENGING YOURSELF!

So..if you think it's all been done before, challenge yourself to do it differently. If you feel you have seen every possible version of Mount Rushmore, The Empire State Building, Grant's Tomb, cute little kids, doggies and puddycats, old barns, flowers or whatever, whoever, or wherever, try to find a different angle or approach, fad this in different light, light, mood, perspective. If you spend your photographic life attempting to emulate, beat or even defame Ansel Adams, Yosef Karsh, Weegee, David Douglass Duncan or whoever, you may find yourself with a terrible inferiority complex and never having discovered your own talents. There is nothing wrong with studying the old master of photography, analyzing their work, their lessons and trying to figure out what was really going on n their heads, their life or their bank accounts. It's good to draw inspiration and knowledge from all of them but there comes a time to turn off the computer, put down the books and pick up the camera!

Many years ago, one of the photography magazines, I don't recall which publication, ran a cover story- an article entitled "Are All Photographers Crazy"- hardly politically correct by today's standards- perhaps "crazy" or "nuts" should have been "insane or mentally challenged" but times have changed. The articles dealt with what motivates photographers to be photographers beyond the norms. The norms being expressing oneself artistically, making family snapshots and records as the kids grow up, recording history, aspiration of becoming a professional photographer- a famous investigative/crusading photojournalist, or just impressing the neighbors with a nice but perhaps boring vacation slide show.

The writer must have been a psychologist- turned photographer or perhaps worse, a photographer who thought he was a psychologist. This guy got into theorizing that some photographers were obsessed with long telephoto lenses and consider those lenses phallic symbols or worse again, the were into voyeurism. He pontificated that some photographers were obsessed with morbidity and gore and bizarre sexuality. And...this was before the time of Diane Arbus and good old Robert Mapplethorpe. I don't even know if Helmut Newton was working at that time. I wonder what he would have thought of David Hamilton with all those prepubescent ballerinas.

Well then! Even a young photography student, my reaction was "OK- whatever floats your boat" kinda thing as long as it ain't immoral, illegal or downright creepy.

My point is, in order to motivate yourself, to spark your creativity, dig down into your heart and mind and discover WHY you want to be a photographer. Whatever it is, get after it and do what satisfies those requirements. I'll bet your creative juices will flow and you will start producing better images. Also- remember what I said about times changing and photographers change too. Weegee (Arthur Fellig) drove around New York City with a police radio in his car and came to crime scenes before the cops got there. He was known to have photographed the "underbelly of the naked city". In his later years (I met him) he was semi-retired and was taken to light-hearted to special effect photography- two-headed dachshunds and the Mona Lisa frowning! Google it! If you wanna be a David Douglas Duncan kinda shooter, you always need to be in the right place at the right time- the only problem you has to be in an active war zone. So as I alluded to previously, do whatever floats your boat, just make sure that what you do won't sink your boat- with you in it.

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Jul 19, 2019 23:05:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
quixdraw wrote:
Ah, for the days when you could get a good 10 cent cigar. Nearly 65 years ago I got my first camera, shortly thereafter, bought a modest darkroom from paper route money. Grew up with a Father who was an advanced amateur photographer - took quite marvelous photos, won contests, framed color prints on the wall at home, slide shows. There were plenty of Excellent photos then and long before, what there wasn't, is the easy and broad public exposure of photos there is today. Even a casual look back in time shows a pantheon of marvelous photographers and myriad brilliant photos. That continues, despite the incredible flood very mixed / extremely variable quality photos that inundate the public view. IMO, The challenge for "serious" photo enthusiasts is to continue to learn, develop and improve their product - do their best and never post anything but their best. The photos you posted are certainly well done and technically very good - it is up to you to decide how many words they are worth. Were they mine, they would fall into the "Not a bad job at all, but why did I take it?" category. No offense intended.
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One of my answers would be "because I wanted to make a record of what I saw so that in the future this could serve as a prompt to my memory of the experience of those days. thanks. For other photographs, I may have other reasons.

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Jul 19, 2019 23:08:41   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Cany143 wrote:
Though a hundred, or even a thousand, words won't make an image that doesn't stand on its own any better, I'm of the opinion* that however many words get expended, they won't make the image any worse. I already knew the 'story' --the hundred words-- you expended about Raplee, so hearing it again neither heightened or lessened your image for me, largely because your image stands so VERY clearly and well on its own that for me, nothing more needs to be said. Its all I need to know. Because it IS an exceptionally good photograph.

If I find anything concerning about the use --or more rightly, the lack of use-- of 'a hundred words,' its that so very often it appears that photographer 'X' isn't capable of saying anything about their image. Its as if they don't know anything about the subject other than what lens they used, or that they'd gotten up and arrived and set up and waited for some cloud or bit of light to do what they think they wanted it to do, but apart from factors like those, lack any further connection to the subject they ultimately shot. Its a purely 'I - It' relationship, nothing more. After which photographer 'X' moves along to their next 'I - It' relationship on the list.

As is usual around here, now's the time I get to interject myself into the scenario by saying 'I've been to that place, too.' Actually, by the look of your shot, I may have been a mile or two away from where you stood at the same time you were standing where you were. I really like the stuff I saw and shot that day, but not quite as much as I admire what you've posted here.
Though a hundred, or even a thousand, words won't ... (show quote)


Well put, Cany 143

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Jul 19, 2019 23:30:58   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
treadwl wrote:
This will be more than 100 words, and I hope less than a 1000.
Today alone there will be more photos taken than there were in the entire history of film photography. Everyone is a photographer and is eager to show off their "skills". Ansel Adams once said the last thing the world needs is another perfectly exposed photograph. As I look over the daily offering of images here on the Hog his words ring true in my mind. Photographs should inspire, lift the soul, be unique. Sadly, most are not. They are simply taken by someone who arrived at a scene, STOOD (most photos are taken by someone standing up and holding a camera at eye level) there snapping away for a moment and then left with what they think is a National Geographic cover shot. The modern camera is an awesome tool when placed in the hands of someone who really knows how to use it and has the creative genius to actually see what is before them.

Your photos are beautiful. They are faithful renditions of places I have never seen, nor am I likely to ever see them. They are technical masterpieces and I would happily attach a comment that say well done or attach the emoji of a thumbs up. They are certainly better than most images shown here on the HOG. But for me they do not speak to the soul, they don't make me want to look again and again. They are not unique.

My mouth (in this case my fingers) often get me in trouble. I do not mean to offend. You strike me as a philosopher and this was meant as a philosophic exchange. I'm sure you like your images. In the end, that is all that matters. Thanks for creating this thread.

Larry
This will be more than 100 words, and I hope less ... (show quote)


Interesting reply. I agree with most of what you say. When you say that his photographs "...do not speak to the soul, they do not make me want to look again and again". I would say well over 95 per cent of the images I see on this site do not "speak" to my soul. That is not to say that I do not care for the image. I think that you touched on what would be an interesting Hog topic and that is "what does speak to your soul"?

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Jul 19, 2019 23:48:59   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Seems to me that a lot of folks around here are suffering with "photographer's block", that is, a photographic version of writer's block. Basically, the malady is a sudden decrease in creativity, an uninspired approach to photograhy, a dearth of unique or new ideas in one's personal work and a bad case of the image blahs or blues! The symptoms/side effects are a "been there-done that" defeatist attitude, complaining about the stagnation of photographic artistry and savvy, and a tendency to assign blame to a number of trends such as digital photograhy, cellphone cameras, prefiltration of casual and do-it-yourself-photograhy and the untimely demise of the iconic photographers of the past. I mean, it a sobering thought that when Mozart was my age he had been dead for some 50 years!

One could see their doctor about anti-depressant medication, consult with their naturopath if they don't like drugs or take up Yoga. Electroconvulsive shock therapy- well- don't try it at home with your strobe or speedlight. Kidding aside, my remedy is CHALLENGING YOURSELF!

So..if you think it's all been done before, challenge yourself to do it differently. If you feel you have seen every possible version of Mount Rushmore, The Empire State Building, Grant's Tomb, cute little kids, doggies and puddycats, old barns, flowers or whatever, whoever, or wherever, try to find a different angle or approach, fad this in different light, light, mood, perspective. If you spend your photographic life attempting to emulate, beat or even defame Ansel Adams, Yosef Karsh, Weegee, David Douglass Duncan or whoever, you may find yourself with a terrible inferiority complex and never having discovered your own talents. There is nothing wrong with studying the old master of photography, analyzing their work, their lessons and trying to figure out what was really going on n their heads, their life or their bank accounts. It's good to draw inspiration and knowledge from all of them but there comes a time to turn off the computer, put down the books and pick up the camera!

Many years ago, one of the photography magazines, I don't recall which publication, ran a cover story- an article entitled "Are All Photographers Crazy"- hardly politically correct by today's standards- perhaps "crazy" or "nuts" should have been "insane or mentally challenged" but times have changed. The articles dealt with what motivates photographers to be photographers beyond the norms. The norms being expressing oneself artistically, making family snapshots and records as the kids grow up, recording history, aspiration of becoming a professional photographer- a famous investigative/crusading photojournalist, or just impressing the neighbors with a nice but perhaps boring vacation slide show.

The writer must have been a psychologist- turned photographer or perhaps worse, a photographer who thought he was a psychologist. This guy got into theorizing that some photographers were obsessed with long telephoto lenses and consider those lenses phallic symbols or worse again, the were into voyeurism. He pontificated that some photographers were obsessed with morbidity and gore and bizarre sexuality. And...this was before the time of Diane Arbus and good old Robert Mapplethorpe. I don't even know if Helmut Newton was working at that time. I wonder what he would have thought of David Hamilton with all those prepubescent ballerinas.

Well then! Even a young photography student, my reaction was "OK- whatever floats your boat" kinda thing as long as it ain't immoral, illegal or downright creepy.

My point is, in order to motivate yourself, to spark your creativity, dig down into your heart and mind and discover WHY you want to be a photographer. Whatever it is, get after it and do what satisfies those requirements. I'll bet your creative juices will flow and you will start producing better images. Also- remember what I said about times changing and photographers change too. Weegee (Arthur Fellig) drove around New York City with a police radio in his car and came to crime scenes before the cops got there. He was known to have photographed the "underbelly of the naked city". In his later years (I met him) he was semi-retired and was taken to light-hearted to special effect photography- two-headed dachshunds and the Mona Lisa frowning! Google it! If you wanna be a David Douglas Duncan kinda shooter, you always need to be in the right place at the right time- the only problem you has to be in an active war zone. So as I alluded to previously, do whatever floats your boat, just make sure that what you do won't sink your boat- with you in it.
Seems to me that a lot of folks around here are su... (show quote)


Mr Shapiro, Your reply was both interesting and apt. If I could arrange things on a cosmic basis, I would convene a coffee shop conclave of some of the long time photographers who post on this site and just sit back and soak up the conversation. I think that often when a person posts here they are not necessarily looking for a "here is the answer" response, but rather are seeking a connection with someone or an affirmation of what they are saying and by extension of themselves. I am struck by the number of grandparents who post children of their grandkids and ask for comments on the photography when what they really want to hear is how cute the kid is. They certainly don't want to read "your photograph was a standout on all fronts, but that sure is a homely kid". At any rate, I always look for your contributions.

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Jul 20, 2019 00:06:46   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Old Man I like your images and agree with your comments. I enjoy knowing the "context" of an image. For my own images, I always identify them so that years later, I am able to know what I am looking at. Of course, if I take a picture of, say, "Joe's Hamburgers" I won't write "Joe's Hamburgers" on the back of the picture, but I might write "this is the place where I had the absolute worse burger I have ever had the misfortune of eating. For me photographs serve as index to memory and connection with others, anything that assists in this is not bad in my point of view.

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Jul 20, 2019 00:43:34   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
theoldman wrote:
I want to make an easily challenged statement about photography. I assert that it is so ubiquitous it is becoming passe. Ouch!

I can hear the screams of objection already, but here is my reason for the statement. Fifty or 60 years ago in my day, and certainly before that, a good photograph was the exception. I did slides with my Nikon F and friends actually came to the house wanting to see a slide show. The only explanation is that I did good (not great) photographs while they were mostly taking snap shots of their kid's birthdays (which by the way are more important today than my sunsets and waterfalls).

Today many have the talent, time, and equipment to make great photographs. Any day here I see scores of images that 50 years ago I only saw on magazine covers. And they earn a little praise, from other photographers.

If you think I am being unfair, look at any stock photo site. If I did that regularly I might give up. Why bother if thousands produce daily thousands of better images than I do.

I know, it only has to please me, it has intrinsic value, it isn't the product, its the process, it will help me see, even if no one else ever looks at them, its not the image, its the experience......of course it is :)

I submit that a photograph is not worth a 1000 words any longer BUT maybe a 100 words will make a photograph exceptional. And that is my point. Share the sizzle as well as the steak. Include the story. Not aperture and shutter speed, but what makes the image significant or important.

Let me see if you agree. I have included two random pretty, but decidedly not exceptional photographs, with much that can be criticized in either. But let's see if 100 words adds to their interest. You be the judge.

The first is taken on the cliff above the San Juan River, near Mexican Hat, Utah. In fact, the Mexican Hat formation is behind me (How is that as a photo descriptor!! :) )

A. L. Raplee had a cabin on the river below (37.1767, -109.8475), but he ignored the warning of Indians that the river flooded. The rock walls of his cabin stayed for years, and provided temporary shelter for many, but he moved to nearby Bluff after he was flooded out. In the background you see the Raplee Monocline, so memory of his short lived residence lives on. (Exactly 100 words :) )

The second photo is of the stage stop (44.1151, -120.1556) near Post in the Oregon outback. Evidence of the old stage road is nearby. As an interesting side note, the stage stop and stage road were on the 1905 route of the first transcontinental auto race won by an Oldsmobile Curved Dash automobile named Old Scout. (only 57 words).

Dave
The Old Man
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Like beauty, words are in the eye of the beholder.
I've been browsing my thousands of pics from my lifetime, & wonder what becomes of them when I reach my use by date. But it includes many that would, or may, interest some by looking back at what is becoming history. I like to tell a story in my pics, so over the years it's a time line. But words?? That's for others to formulate.

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Jul 20, 2019 00:52:31   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
In a world where our thoughts, both visual and verbal, have been communicated so many times before, it is difficult to say something truly original. The best we can do is to communicate with integrity and as much insight and creativity as possible. This is not a new concern Didn’t Shakespeare write that there was nothing new under there sun? Maybe problem is that no one has the patience to hear a thousand words verbally.

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Jul 20, 2019 01:07:08   #
Penny Gehrig
 
Penny Gehrig wrote:
Well Old Man, I'm an old lady. What I find is there are photographers who are purist. They make the camera create the results you want. We had to do that with film and some burning and dodging in the dark room. Now I don't think the photographers are better than us. They just use photoshop and Lightroom do the work for them.

Sunset reflections on ice
Sunset reflections on ice...

Mountain Blue Bird
Mountain Blue Bird...

Sunrise
Sunrise...

Sandhill Cranes
Sandhill Cranes...

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Jul 20, 2019 08:06:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
cactuspic wrote:
Didn’t Shakespeare write that there was nothing new under there sun?
That was Solomon - but he was in a discouraged ‘funk’.

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