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Jul 19, 2019 12:28:31   #
mymike Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure this has been answered before... I'll be teaching an IPhone Camera Course soon, so I shd know this! Need your help - I'm from the film days, made the trans to digital, trying to come to terms with phone photo. Need to know how to explain/understand the difference of quality. I am a purist by heart but sometimes you have to go with technology, I'm trying,. Some say they are very close & that it's not the "tool" it's the user. I have taken several courses on iPhone Photography & am amazed at the controls that are available. I'll stop now and ask for any advice or views. thx in advance
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure t... (show quote)


It depends what the intended purpose of the image will be. The smartphone is usually with me all the time. I shoot events for a non profit and use a mirrorless now for most of that work. I use an IPhone for video interviews with an external mic and a light source. I am on vacation now and took a small point and shoot 1” sensor camera and my IPhone. I like the IPhone for posting in Instagram and FB. If I want to be artistic and there is a chance that I will print the image, then I use the point and shoot (which I won a photo contest with). I was given that image as a 16 X 20 print. Most times my work is just for slide shows and I like using full frame for that. The camera regardless of type is merely a tool in my toolbox.

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Jul 19, 2019 12:36:52   #
Keen
 
iPhone = tiny lens, tiny sensor, etc. Small, lightweight, pocketable, produces great images.

DSLR = bigger, heavier, larger sensor, more bothersome to lug around, more controls, more capability in a wider variety of circumstances, produces great images.

Use what works for you in any given situation. The iPhone would work great for shooting child portraits at family gatherings.....but not so great at shooting distant birds, for example.

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Jul 19, 2019 12:50:57   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure this has been answered before... I'll be teaching an IPhone Camera Course soon, so I shd know this! Need your help - I'm from the film days, made the trans to digital, trying to come to terms with phone photo. Need to know how to explain/understand the difference of quality. I am a purist by heart but sometimes you have to go with technology, I'm trying,. Some say they are very close & that it's not the "tool" it's the user. I have taken several courses on iPhone Photography & am amazed at the controls that are available. I'll stop now and ask for any advice or views. thx in advance
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure t... (show quote)

Want the convenience of a phone/camera in your pocket, use a smart phone. Want image quality, use a camera with a reasonably sized sensor; my guideline is 1" or larger.

In my books small sensors equate to poor low light performance, noise and artifacts. Although the technology is improving for small sensors physics puts limits on what can be accomplished.

Just my thoughts...

bwa

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Jul 19, 2019 13:25:13   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I have a very dumb Android smartphone. It didn't even come with controls for the camera like shutter speed or ISO. Fortunately I found a free app (FV-5 Lite). Still, I can't claim the capability of the top phones.

HOWEVER, I am sure that a DSLR has it all over a smartphone in low light. The bigger the sensor the more sensitive and lower noise.
Then again, zoom lenses offer versatility. Digital zooms can beat cropping, but don't beat good zoom lenses.

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Jul 19, 2019 13:25:14   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Hey schmuck. If you paid attention, I was answering her surprise to the negative reaction to her post. Your apology is accepted.


Collhar wrote:
Then move past the caption. If this more than you can endure....move on. You have added to the "novel"

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Jul 19, 2019 13:28:47   #
jdedmonds
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Almost the wrong question today here. We are more at discussing DSLR vs MILC quality? For convenience I sometimes use my Samsung Galaxy Note8, but not for quality. I'll leave you with that.


"We are more at discussing DSLR vs MILC quality?" I do not know what this (interrogative) sentence means. I have graduate degrees in English and law and have accepted that younger people are less skilled at English usage, but this sentence completely baffles me. Many people on this forum obviously skip reviewing what they've written before they post it, but I have a hunch that this one would've posted this exactly as it appears.

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Jul 19, 2019 13:34:41   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
SRTfirst wrote:
Thank you, Gene51, for the article re cell phone photography—appreciated it. I’m an “enthusiast” just getting back into the game after years away from 35mm. I love Ugly Hedgehog, but am still surprised by the negativity sometimes expressed.


It’s part of our tribal human nature. It becomes a pi—ing match at times.

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Jul 19, 2019 13:40:29   #
tenny52
 
Check the best smart phone cameras on Utube, Huawei(P30 Pro), Samsung Galaxy 10, or Iphone X, one of them exceeds the others by a big margin, esp on night view, wide angle and long zoom.
If you spend around $1000 +/- $100 on one of the best smart phones, you will get at least the photo quality of about $2000+ value of Dslr/mirrorless gears.
If you plan to spend more than $3000+ on gears, that could be a different story.

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Jul 19, 2019 13:56:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jdedmonds wrote:
"We are more at discussing DSLR vs MILC quality?" I do not know what this (interrogative) sentence means. I have graduate degrees in English and law and have accepted that younger people are less skilled at English usage, but this sentence completely baffles me. Many people on this forum obviously skip reviewing what they've written before they post it, but I have a hunch that this one would've posted this exactly as it appears.


There seems to be an implied “Perhaps...” intended.

Alas, that’s a problem with living in a world wide forum. Colloquial, regional, and cultural usages vary. People who seem to be making mistakes are just speaking and writing what they grew up with. It’s correct FOR THEM in their native environments.

I learned “proper” American English from Harbrace 6th Edition Handbook. My wife learned from 7th. We quibble over language often, but heck, they’re up to version 13 now.

As long as I can understand it, I don’t care.

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Jul 19, 2019 14:52:47   #
Race Raccoon Loc: Yankton, South Dakota
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Medical Photographer USN / Scientific & Technical Photographer for the DOD


Gail, I am shocked & very disappointed by the haughty & disrespectful manner in which you and your perfectly reasonable questions have been greeted here.

Your service to our country, your credentials, and the fact you are a lady entitle you to better than you have received here.

This 69 yo white male with 34 years of service to the same country you have served is ashamed at the way you've been treated.

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Jul 19, 2019 15:22:24   #
dick ranez
 
Every camera has a place, and using it effectively is still the photographer's job and also the photographer's edge. No "real" camera today has the ease of use of the cell phone camera and the quality easily equals or exceeds many of the older point and shoot cameras. If I were to design a smart phone course today, I would concentrate the first third of the course on fundamentals, the middle third on how to exploit the camera effectively and the final third on the many post processing options available today. I would want to walk away from the class feeling comfortable knowing when and where and how I could use the phone camera to my advantage.

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Jul 19, 2019 15:45:48   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
CWGordon wrote:
I believe JeffL said a lot very efficiently in his contribution.
I only wish I could obtain the
results some people do with
their cellphones. My wife is
not interested in photography
as a hobby at all. I have tried
to get her cameras and to
get her to do more. Nada. No interest. But, you should see
what she can do with her cell
when we are on vacation. Her pictures are a big hit with her
friends whom she immediate
ly sends the pictures. She is not interested in the bulk of even pocket sized cameras. She
doesn’t enlarge or print much
Sometimes they go on her screen-saver. Why would she ever (really) need more than her cellphone camera?
I believe JeffL said a lot very efficiently in his... (show quote)


I can comisserate. My wife takes excellently composed shots with her IPhone, but is often limited indoors by the low light capabilities. Also, she was jealous of the unending conversations about photography between my son and me, so I bought her a Fuji X-E2 and an 18-55. Not only was she not overjoyed, she was positively p*ssed that I was trying to intimidate/belittle her with the complexity. I have “inherited” the Fuji, which is an excellent camera system (my wife thinks that was the plan all along). Long story short(er), she’s continuing to use her iPhone, and takes great shots notwithstanding the noise in low light shots when she doesn’t use a flash.

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Jul 19, 2019 15:57:27   #
Bill P
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I used to think cell phones were okay for snapshots, but not much else. My son-in-law was telling me about Island Beach State Park and suggested I visit it. He emailed me some pictures taken with his iPhone X, and I couldn't believe they came from a cell phone. The attached image had minor adjustments in Photoshop and easily printed at 18x12. Double download for better detail.

I was flat out wrong - these newer phones can definitely produce print worthy images.



You are very luck to get a great phto like this. The big thing for me is not the qiestion of builtin

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Jul 19, 2019 16:04:09   #
Bill P
 
Collhar wrote:
"Maybe the best thing we can do for cellphone photography is to help teach some basic lighting and composition principles."
Are people who use DSLR's fully aware of what you think cell phone users need?


From what I've seen, many are not. I remember the old thing about photographers:

Beginner photographers talk about gear.

Intermediate photographers talk about composition.

Truly advanced fine photographers talk about light.

So so true.

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Jul 19, 2019 16:17:43   #
jdedmonds
 
burkphoto wrote:
There seems to be an implied “Perhaps...” intended.

Alas, that’s a problem with living in a world wide forum. Colloquial, regional, and cultural usages vary. People who seem to be making mistakes are just speaking and writing what they grew up with. It’s correct FOR THEM in their native environments.

I learned “proper” American English from Harbrace 6th Edition Handbook. My wife learned from 7th. We quibble over language often, but heck, they’re up to version 13 now.

As long as I can understand it, I don’t care.
There seems to be an implied “Perhaps...” intended... (show quote)


Well, I can't understand it.

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