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Jul 14, 2019 17:08:31   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
I took my camera out after my fall (2 weeks ago) to Haggin Oaks Community Park. I think my shots on some action pics were not as good as usual... but neither am I... this may be operator error. When I put 24-70 f4 into MACRO mode, they came out very fuzzy??? Didn't happen before?
The squirrel one came out well I thought.

Advice please...
Thanks,
Jim

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Jul 14, 2019 17:24:22   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Why are you reluctant to send the camera and lens to Nikon for a complete checkup?
--Bob
junglejim1949 wrote:
I took my camera out after my fall (2 weeks ago) to Haggin Oaks Community Park. I think my shots on some action pics were not as good as usual... but neither am I... this may be operator error. When I put 24-70 f4 into MACRO mode, they came out very fuzzy??? Didn't happen before?
The squirrel one came out well I thought.

Advice please...
Thanks,
Jim

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Jul 14, 2019 17:59:37   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Why are you reluctant to send the camera and lens to Nikon for a complete checkup?
--Bob


Because it is a Canon

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Jul 14, 2019 18:04:01   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Macro mode is for doing extreme close ups. And at those distances the depth of field gets very shallow. Put it back to normal and try from a bit more distance, then crop. Also you may be having some fine motor problems and among other things there might be tremors which can cause blur or softness in images unless using a rest/brace/mono or tripod and/or high shutter speeds.

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Jul 14, 2019 19:12:02   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Because it is a Canon


Ok, same question except exchange Canon for Nikon.
--Bob

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Jul 14, 2019 20:18:59   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Ok, same question except exchange Canon for Nikon.
--Bob


I was following advice from the hedgehoggers. They suggested testing (taking photos) and a lot of them including using a flash. So that is what I was doing. I have no problem sending in the lens & camera to Canon to be checked. I am thinking of going to Mike's Camera here in Sacramento and having them pack & send to Canon ($35). I am not sure what a checkup will run?
I wasn't trying to be flippant with my previous answer... I just didn't know what to do.
Thanks

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Jul 15, 2019 03:57:02   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
It's possible that your fall has unsettled you and as a consequence you're forgetting things that you'd taught yourself to do automatically. For example you may not be using the appropriate camera-holding and shutter release skills that you were using previously. Or maybe it's time to concede that you're not as steady as you used to be and need faster shutter speeds (or a monopod/tripod). And you may be forgetting basic procedure stuff that you did automatically before.

Having said that, the only shots that look unacceptable are those of the cyclists, and if they were moving quickly, 1/800 isn't quite fast enough (since you weren't panning). So, problem solved with those . And with the close-ups, as Jerry suggested, close focus point means shallow DOF. A macro lens allows you to focus more closely, but you still get the same hit with DOF. Perhaps if you were concentrating on the possibility of damage you forgot those kinds of basic considerations.

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Jul 15, 2019 03:58:44   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Because it is a Canon


Best answer of the day lol.

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Jul 15, 2019 06:11:10   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
R.G. wrote:
It's possible that your fall has unsettled you and as a consequence you're forgetting things that you'd taught yourself to do automatically. For example you may not be using the appropriate camera-holding and shutter release skills that you were using previously. Or maybe it's time to concede that you're not as steady as you used to be and need faster shutter speeds (or a monopod/tripod). And you may be forgetting basic procedure stuff that you did automatically before.

Having said that, the only shots that look unacceptable are those of the cyclists, and if they were moving quickly, 1/800 isn't quite fast enough (since you weren't panning). So, problem solved with those . And with the close-ups, as Jerry suggested, close focus point means shallow DOF. A macro lens allows you to focus more closely, but you still get the same hit with DOF. Perhaps if you were concentrating on the possibility of damage you forgot those kinds of basic considerations.
It's possible that your fall has unsettled you and... (show quote)


Everything is possible. I will try to shoot a few more times. Thanks for the review.

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Jul 15, 2019 06:19:31   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
I took my camera out after my fall (2 weeks ago) to Haggin Oaks Community Park. I think my shots on some action pics were not as good as usual... but neither am I... this may be operator error. When I put 24-70 f4 into MACRO mode, they came out very fuzzy??? Didn't happen before?
The squirrel one came out well I thought.

Advice please...
Thanks,
Jim


This is your second post on this in two days. Are you sure your head did not get injured worse than you thought?
Please, do not make it three posts. Please send it in to Nikon and have them check it out, if you think it might also be the lens, send it in with the body. Please, let this constant posting die a decent death.

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Jul 15, 2019 06:29:40   #
CO
 
billnikon wrote:
This is your second post on this in two days. Are you sure your head did not get injured worse than you thought?
Please, do not make it three posts. Please send it in to Nikon and have them check it out, if you think it might also be the lens, send it in with the body. Please, let this constant posting die a decent death.


It is the third post.

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Jul 15, 2019 07:22:35   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
CO wrote:
It is the third post.


Yeah, third post. Seems I no longer can count.

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Jul 15, 2019 07:25:45   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Because it is a Canon


Ok. Get it checked over or continue to be disappointed.You were being offered good advice.

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Jul 15, 2019 10:00:13   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Because it is a Canon


LOL!!! Damn good answer, Jim.

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Jul 15, 2019 10:56:28   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
robertjerl wrote:
Macro mode is for doing extreme close ups. And at those distances the depth of field gets very shallow. Put it back to normal and try from a bit more distance, then crop. Also you may be having some fine motor problems and among other things there might be tremors which can cause blur or softness in images unless using a rest/brace/mono or tripod and/or high shutter speeds.




I think macro mode also increases the range over which the lens tries to focus. Macro is for close objects and the lens will seek to find something close on which to focus. Not find anything it will then look further away. None of the shots shown by the OP were macro shots. I think the camera ened up spending to much time focus hunting due to the choice of macro mode.

The lens in this case (the 24-70) in normal mode is looking to focus starting at 0.38m / 1.25 ft. in
macro mode it starts at 0.2m/ 8.9 in.

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