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Jun 29, 2019 18:17:11   #
Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl
 
Nope Bill I don't understand..all of the very many videos and tutorials say that the D850 crops at 20 mps and so does the D500>

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Jun 29, 2019 18:47:30   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Reconvic wrote:
I do like that the D500 out of the box comes in at 10 fps and has a deeper buffer. I had to get a grip, a special battery and charger that only took me to 9 fps. The buffer is better on the D500 and the autofocus spread is better. I LOVE my D850 but all in all I think the D500 is better for BIFs and action shots.


I'm going to give the edge to the D850. Yes 10 frames per second is faster than 7 frames per second but then I look at the ISO capabilities of the D850 an it's a no brainer for me. Lots of my shots are early morning or under a tree canopy. I have yet to fill the buffer on my camera in the fashion that I shoot. There are trade offs for both cameras.......

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Jun 29, 2019 19:34:04   #
Reconvic Loc: clermont Fl
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'm going to give the edge to the D850. Yes 10 frames per second is faster than 7 frames per second but then I look at the ISO capabilities of the D850 an it's a no brainer for me. Lots of my shots are early morning or under a tree canopy. I have yet to fill the buffer on my camera in the fashion that I shoot. There are trade offs for both cameras.......


First Martin I respect your work tremendously. Has been several occasions that the D850 buffer went dry on me. The frames per second are very important to me. I've never owned a D500 so I can't anything about IQ. Since I crop 90% of the time and the D500 crops at the same megapixels as the D850? Let's not forget the cost.

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Jun 29, 2019 19:58:46   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Reconvic wrote:
Nope Bill I don't understand..all of the very many videos and tutorials say that the D850 crops at 20 mps and so does the D500>


You can crop the D850 to 6880 × 4584, (30x20 for a 1.2 crop factor) and get the bump in FPS, and not have to go all the way to 20 mp DX crop. This would still leave you with an extremely respectable 31.5 mp image. This is what I do with my D810 and I would suggest you try it with the D850. The problem I have with a D500 used with a long lens is that it becomes less hand-holdable, and you better have a sniper's accuracy when you point that lens at a subject - there is little room for error when shooting a moving subject. I'd rather have a larger image to start with, and choose my own level of cropping. It is not unusual to crop small, and from my experience with a D500, there is less "croppability" before the image starts to fall apart. In theory this should not be the case, but in practice it does seem true. You've seen my work so you understand what I mean.

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Jun 29, 2019 20:13:47   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Gene51 wrote:
You can crop the D850 to 6880 × 4584, (30x20 for a 1.2 crop factor) and get the bump in FPS, and not have to go all the way to 20 mp DX crop. This would still leave you with an extremely respectable 31.5 mp image. This is what I do with my D810 and I would suggest you try it with the D850. The problem I have with a D500 used with a long lens is that it becomes less hand-holdable, and you better have a sniper's accuracy when you point that lens at a subject - there is little room for error when shooting a moving subject. I'd rather have a larger image to start with, and choose my own level of cropping. It is not unusual to crop small, and from my experience with a D500, there is less "croppability" before the image starts to fall apart. In theory this should not be the case, but in practice it does seem true. You've seen my work so you understand what I mean.
You can crop the D850 to 6880 × 4584, (30x20 for a... (show quote)


From the D850 specs: FX-format; CH: Up to 9 frames per second with an EN-EL18b Battery inserted in a MB-D18 Power Pack. I use a high speed XQD card (400mb/s write speed) and a power grip for birding and get at least 9fps. I just tried it and I can hold the shutter down for 40 shots before it slowed, which is more than I generally need.

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Jun 29, 2019 20:20:01   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
TrishV wrote:
I would love to hear your opinions as to which Nikon they think is the best for wildlife photography - the D750, D500 or the D810 - I am looking for another camera and can't decide which would work best so any thoughts you can give me would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


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I would choose the D500 for wildlife photography.

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Jun 29, 2019 20:39:09   #
Acountry330 Loc: Dothan,Ala USA
 
Save for a few more months and get the D-850.

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Jun 29, 2019 21:16:30   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
TrishV wrote:
I would love to hear your opinions as to which Nikon they think is the best for wildlife photography - the D750, D500 or the D810 - I am looking for another camera and can't decide which would work best so any thoughts you can give me would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


D500 easily, for wildlife/birds/BIF, but that's not to say the others can't be used, but we're talking optimally. It also depends on the lens you plan to use too. Someone mentioned a D850, which is also a good choice, considering the D850 crop mode is almost equivalent to the D500 (19+ MP vs 20.9 MP). But, we're talking $2799 vs. $1499 new. Depends also on your budget.

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Jun 29, 2019 21:52:58   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
TrishV wrote:
As it will be a back up camera the budget doesn't allow for the extra cost even though the D850 is a fantastic camera but I have shoulder problems so am looking at weight as well. Thanks.


I appreciate the shoulder problems, but the weight differences aren't all that great. The heaviest is the D850, at 915 grams; the lightest, the D750, at 750 grams; however, that difference of 165 grams is only about 5.8 ounces. And if you go with the D500, that's 860 grams, so the difference to the D850 is only 55 grams, or 1.94 ounces. Money is a limiting factor for most of us, and a pretty emotional one at that, so I wouldn't try to convince you to spend more than you think you can afford. But I wouldn't think a difference of roughly two to six ounces is really worth worrying about.

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Jun 29, 2019 22:41:06   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
D500 seems to be popular, but you'd have to pry my D810 from my cold dead hands -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums

I actively shoot wildlife 60-70% of the time. in Spring and Fall,99% of the time.

And here's why I like a high mp full frame camera with a sharp lens. The first image was taken with a D500, Nikkor 28-300 at F5.6, ISO 800, 1/250. The second with a D800, Sigma Sport 600mm, ISO 800, 1/500, F8. The important takeaway is that, aside from the optical differences, noise is a big factor that eats up image quality.

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D500 seems to be popular, but you'd have to pry my... (show quote)


You shouldn't be getting that much noise at ISO 800....my D7200 doesn't get noisy in a sunny daylight shot like that until I get to over 2000 perhaps up to 3200 ISO. Also the lens comparison isn't fair - the 28-300 (which I have also) is crappy at the long end. The Sigma S lens is noted for its better resolution - just my 2 cents. Granted a D800 will technically produce better IQ all else equal, but at ISO 800 it should not be that dramatic.

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Jun 30, 2019 11:50:15   #
Kaib795 Loc: Maryland, USA
 
Because your shots will be with a telephoto lens, the crop sensor camera will automatically get you closer with your FX lens. So say a 300mm lens on your D500 or D7500 will give you a 1.5x advantage or 450mm view in that camera. This 1.5x effects the f stop too so the actual f stop reading will be off by that amount. It's worth going to the DX camera and the D500 is very nice for this. The D850 is a masterful camera that can do anything and may be more than you need. The D810 is a great landscape camera but is a FX camera with no edge on lens performance but is a great camera too. I put a 300mm f4 on my D7500 and go for it. That's as heavy as I want and on that camera it's performing as a 450mm. This is where having a faster lens, say f2.8, is great as the 1.5x isn't hurting focusing at all but at f4 going to f5.6 is on the edge of where some cameras struggle to focus and with higher f stops the only area that can focus is the center most spot (which is the most accurate focus point).

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Jul 1, 2019 18:15:39   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
TrishV wrote:
I would love to hear your opinions as to which Nikon they think is the best for wildlife photography - the D750, D500 or the D810 - I am looking for another camera and can't decide which would work best so any thoughts you can give me would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


You left Nikon's two best cameras out on your list, the D5 and D 850!

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Jul 1, 2019 18:18:25   #
TrishV Loc: Now living on Whidbey Island, WA
 
Too big and heavy not to mention the cost - as I said it would be a second camera and as much as I would like to buy the D850 I just can't afford it.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:59:56   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
TrishV wrote:
I would love to hear your opinions as to which Nikon they think is the best for wildlife photography - the D750, D500 or the D810 - I am looking for another camera and can't decide which would work best so any thoughts you can give me would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


D500

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Jul 8, 2019 14:47:57   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Nikon D850 beats all of them.


Right On!

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