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Jun 27, 2019 12:40:28   #
kakima
 
Battery life for a camera is like gas mileage for a car. They needed a standardized method and CIPA came up with one.
Take your car to the top of a long mountain road then calculate the mileage driving down. You'll probably get a very different result from the EPA's.
Youtube has plenty of videos from people who measure shots per charge in an analogous manner.

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Jun 27, 2019 12:45:44   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
With A7Rii FW-50 battery I get about 250 shots. I have the viewfinder turned off as I use live view. If I understand the OP's original point, it is to use only the viewfinder or live view to extend the battery charge.

The most often heard complaint about Sony cameras with the FW-50 battery is how many pics you can get on one charge. There are a couple of ways to solve this--use the verticle grip with two batteries or have more fully charged batteries to use.

I only have 16 batteries for my three A7Rii cameras. It is easy to change batteries.

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Jun 27, 2019 13:59:45   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
My Z6 has been surprisingly good on batteries.
I’ve come home with 5-600 shots with the battery gauge still showing about half left.
Haven’t had to change it yet while out.

Just keep the back screen off


Mine too. No issue with it or my Lumix GM5. I tend to turn off after an image.

A little ticked at the Z6 for dissing my non-Nikon branded batteries, though.

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Jun 27, 2019 14:13:36   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
IMHO, chimping wastes most of the power. Just use the EVF to check occasionally.
Works for me and my battery rarely needs changing.

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Jun 27, 2019 14:16:40   #
Bill P
 
. But carrying a spare or two is a small trade-off for all the benefits.[/quote]

Burk, as usual you are right on the point. I remain astonished at the people who seem to think that carrying a small battery is just too much. How many of us have been shooting in a situation where we don't have the few seconds needed for a battery change? Or are too clueless to occasionally look at the battery symbol in the VF?

We can now see first world problems appear in photography.

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Jun 27, 2019 17:25:40   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
joer wrote:
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge on my FW-50 and FZ100 batteries by doing the following. Its so simple it may be overlooked.

1. Turn off the monitor. It is mostly useless outdoors. If you want to chimp it can be done through the viewfinder, although with ML there is no need.

2. When carrying the camera with a strap make sure nothing will trigger the viewfinder sensor. The finder is normally off until the VF sensor is blocked. Neck straps that hold the camera back against the chest are out. Use a sling type strap holding to camera back facing out or just hold the camera with a wrist strap secured.

Some will point out you can always turn the camera off between shots but you will miss opportunities waiting for the camera to initialize and that also robs battery life.

One caveat; check the viewfinder before you determine the battery is dead.
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge... (show quote)


I can run a battery down just trying to find what I want in the stinkin' Sony menu. Seriously though, I always carry spares with me and do the things you suggest but go a step further - I leave the battery out completely until I'm ready to go out shooting. Nothing much ever happens when I'm home that I care to take a pic of anyway. I'll probably forget and leave the batteries at home some day and regret what will then look like stupidity but I've already saved months to years of time I would have lost just recharging batteries.

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Jun 27, 2019 17:47:24   #
alamomike47 Loc: San Antonio, Texas
 
joer wrote:
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge on my FW-50 and FZ100 batteries by doing the following. Its so simple it may be overlooked.

1. Turn off the monitor. It is mostly useless outdoors. If you want to chimp it can be done through the viewfinder, although with ML there is no need.

2. When carrying the camera with a strap make sure nothing will trigger the viewfinder sensor. The finder is normally off until the VF sensor is blocked. Neck straps that hold the camera back against the chest are out. Use a sling type strap holding to camera back facing out or just hold the camera with a wrist strap secured.

Some will point out you can always turn the camera off between shots but you will miss opportunities waiting for the camera to initialize and that also robs battery life.

One caveat; check the viewfinder before you determine the battery is dead.
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge... (show quote)


I agree this is what I do. It was lesson learned after running out juice a few times. Scars are lesson learned.

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Jun 27, 2019 22:34:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bill P wrote:
. But carrying a spare or two is a small trade-off for all the benefits.


Burk, as usual you are right on the point. I remain astonished at the people who seem to think that carrying a small battery is just too much. How many of us have been shooting in a situation where we don't have the few seconds needed for a battery change? Or are too clueless to occasionally look at the battery symbol in the VF?

We can now see first world problems appear in photography.[/quote]

Yeah, dSLR users love to laugh at mirrorless cameras for poor battery life.
But I remember carrying 60 rolls of film through airport security in Charlotte on the way to a job in Centerville, Ohio. Why would I worry about a few tiny SDXC cards, or a couple of spare batteries and a charger?

Add a grip to some digital cameras, and hot swapping batteries becomes possible. USB-C allows charging (or using) some cameras from a portable battery pack.

One of the most difficult things humans do is UNLEARNING an old technology. If we limit our use of NEW devices to the things our old devices did, why did we change?

Life, and photography, are full of little trade-offs.

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Jun 28, 2019 00:15:20   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
Just take extra batterys and don't cry about.

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Jun 28, 2019 14:18:16   #
Bill P
 
carl hervol wrote:
Just take extra batterys and don't cry about.


Carl,

I've been stating the obvious for days now, so I wish you luck in getting through the hard heads. It's looking like some of our members need to grow some balls, or at least work out so they can handle the weight of a couple of batteries.

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Jun 28, 2019 21:25:02   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Bill P wrote:
Carl,

I've been stating the obvious for days now, so I wish you luck in getting through the hard heads. It's looking like some of our members need to grow some balls, or at least work out so they can handle the weight of a couple of batteries.


Talking about hard heads...you missed the point entirely. These were suggestions to improve battery life regardless and carrying an extra battery was not excluded. Myopic...

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Jun 28, 2019 21:44:03   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Bill P wrote:
Carl,

I've been stating the obvious for days now, so I wish you luck in getting through the hard heads. It's looking like some of our members need to grow some balls, or at least work out so they can handle the weight of a couple of batteries.


I picked up one of these which always travels with my Z6. So far I haven't needed to open it while out shooting.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L96N3W9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

--

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Jun 29, 2019 01:08:38   #
Bill P
 
joer wrote:
Talking about hard heads...you missed the point entirely. These were suggestions to improve battery life regardless and carrying an extra battery was not excluded. Myopic...


Excuse ,me. i read your post as you wanted to get all day out of a single battery.

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Jul 1, 2019 19:04:40   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
joer wrote:
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge on my FW-50 and FZ100 batteries by doing the following. Its so simple it may be overlooked.

1. Turn off the monitor. It is mostly useless outdoors. If you want to chimp it can be done through the viewfinder, although with ML there is no need.

2. When carrying the camera with a strap make sure nothing will trigger the viewfinder sensor. The finder is normally off until the VF sensor is blocked. Neck straps that hold the camera back against the chest are out. Use a sling type strap holding to camera back facing out or just hold the camera with a wrist strap secured.

Some will point out you can always turn the camera off between shots but you will miss opportunities waiting for the camera to initialize and that also robs battery life.


One caveat; check the viewfinder before you determine the battery is dead.
I'm getting way beyond the listed shots per charge... (show quote)


That's the norm, getting a lot more shots than what's listed (with any brand)!

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