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Jun 18, 2019 17:55:35   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
ratjones wrote:
I just bought my Z6 several weeks ago after my work camera (Nikon D4s) had an unfortunate accident which necessitated a trip to Nikon repair facilities... Z6 camera produces outstanding images - but there are two very annoying problems with the unit: 1) It eats batteries!!! It is rated at somewhere over 330ish images per battery charge - which is ludicrous for pro use... Fortunately - that rating is way conservative...I have gotten close to 800 images while getting acquainted with the camera's features - using all the functions and buttons to see what they will do.... Nikon is set to release a battery grip for the camera soon - so that should enable up to 2000 images before you need to replace batteries - but I recommend having several spares on hand in the meantime. The most annoying thing is the tendency for this camera to cease functioning when the housing is very hot due to sunny conditions and warm weather. (Which is pretty much all the time in the summer)... This is unacceptible for pro use and should be the first thing Nikon addresses to keep pros interested in this camera (Sony mirrorless cameras had this problem early on and fixed it) One enormous pro on the camera is the video.. I am sorely tempted to get the components of the video package now....
I just bought my Z6 several weeks ago after my wor... (show quote)


Thanks for highlighting the issue with heat. I hadn't experienced it nor even heard of it. But now if it happens I won't panic.

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Jun 18, 2019 18:58:19   #
ratjones
 
I almost went into panic mode the first time it happened - right in the middle of a Renaissance Faire Human Chess Match sword fight! Pushed shutter button and it appeared to be stuck.... Then I felt the upper housing and it was hot as blazes (had been sitting in my lap under almost overhead direct sunlight). I was wearing garb with ginormous sleeves at the time and I covered the camera for a few minutes after turning it off. It started right up after a few minutes and functioned properly - until the next occasion...But, for the most part, if the camera stays covered when not in use, one should be okay! I think I will be using this camera mostly inside in a small LED lit studio that I have created... The high ISO range makes it ideally suited for a set of lights that you need to use 3200 ISO or above... NO noise between 3,200 and 12,800 ISO with that setup - and tack sharp images. But for outdoor fast action shooting, I think I will stick with my DSLR for now!

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Jun 19, 2019 16:15:37   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
ratjones wrote:
I almost went into panic mode the first time it happened - right in the middle of a Renaissance Faire Human Chess Match sword fight! Pushed shutter button and it appeared to be stuck.... Then I felt the upper housing and it was hot as blazes (had been sitting in my lap under almost overhead direct sunlight). I was wearing garb with ginormous sleeves at the time and I covered the camera for a few minutes after turning it off. It started right up after a few minutes and functioned properly - until the next occasion...But, for the most part, if the camera stays covered when not in use, one should be okay! I think I will be using this camera mostly inside in a small LED lit studio that I have created... The high ISO range makes it ideally suited for a set of lights that you need to use 3200 ISO or above... NO noise between 3,200 and 12,800 ISO with that setup - and tack sharp images. But for outdoor fast action shooting, I think I will stick with my DSLR for now!
I almost went into panic mode the first time it ha... (show quote)


I have read and watched quite a few reviews on the Z cameras and this is the first time I have heard of this over heating issue.

Are you sure that this is not a problem with your camera? Have you seen this happen on other Z6 bodies?

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Jun 19, 2019 18:03:40   #
ratjones
 
I believe I have read of other instances somewhere - and one of my photographer friends who also bought the Z6 had an incident or two of overheating. This overheating thing only occurs for me when the camera is outdoors on a hot 80 degrees plus direct sunlight - no clouds - type day.... Otherwise it behaves normally and produces great images! When I brought the experience up to a Nikon rep - they did not seem surprised or defensive - so I
think they are aware that it is a problem common to the Z6 at least...

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Jun 20, 2019 02:24:08   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
ratjones wrote:
I believe I have read of other instances somewhere - and one of my photographer friends who also bought the Z6 had an incident or two of overheating. This overheating thing only occurs for me when the camera is outdoors on a hot 80 degrees plus direct sunlight - no clouds - type day.... Otherwise it behaves normally and produces great images! When I brought the experience up to a Nikon rep - they did not seem surprised or defensive - so I
think they are aware that it is a problem common to the Z6 at least...
I believe I have read of other instances somewhere... (show quote)


I don't know where you live, but 80 is not unusual here, in fact in the summer sometimes it gets 103-104 on a hot day.

I was going to buy one but this gives me pause. I am outdoors in +80 temps in sunshine a lot. The camera has to work for me under those conditions.

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Jun 20, 2019 07:37:14   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I Googled the issue. There is quite a bit of chatter about it.

From what I have gathered the issue isn't so much ambient temperature as it is leaving the camera in direct sunlight on a bright, hot day.

A few reported the issue when shooting long videos.

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Jun 20, 2019 08:29:53   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Bill_de wrote:
I Googled the issue. There is quite a bit of chatter about it.

From what I have gathered the issue isn't so much ambient temperature as it is leaving the camera in direct sunlight on a bright, hot day.

A few reported the issue when shooting long videos.

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Oh boy. Not good. I need to do more research.

thanks.

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Jun 20, 2019 09:22:09   #
ratjones
 
I live in New Jersey.... The last two weekends of the NJ Renaissance Faire were sunny and mildly hot (80ish degrees) - when I had the Z6 out for testing.... I had the camera on its strap around my neck when moving from location to location - and at each location when I was operating the camera - it was in prolonged open sunlight - except when sitting under a shade awning placed by a particular stage. The camera operated normally with a modicum of shade overhead - but in direct sunlight it took only a few minutes of exposure to shut the camera off...

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Jun 20, 2019 12:56:39   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Bill_de wrote:
I Googled the issue. There is quite a bit of chatter about it.

From what I have gathered the issue isn't so much ambient temperature as it is leaving the camera in direct sunlight on a bright, hot day.

A few reported the issue when shooting long videos.

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...I don't leave tools in general in direct sunlight. Just a habit I've picked up over the years of contracting. Shoot, I try to keep *wood* in the shade. The sun is not my friend. This is just good procedure when dealing with batteries of any type....

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Jun 21, 2019 02:30:05   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
chasgroh wrote:
...I don't leave tools in general in direct sunlight. Just a habit I've picked up over the years of contracting. Shoot, I try to keep *wood* in the shade. The sun is not my friend. This is just good procedure when dealing with batteries of any type....


Yes yes but the camera is an outdoor tool. I take my cameras outside and sometimes they get sun on them and get hot. Even with no sun it gets to +100 sometimes on a hike or outside. My existing cameras all work at those temperatures.

Now I am worried.

I read that the problem occurs when shooting 4k Video.

Those who have posted about having problems, was that with video or still shots?

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Jun 21, 2019 10:54:35   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
JD750 wrote:
Yes yes but the camera is an outdoor tool. I take my cameras outside and sometimes they get sun on them and get hot. Even with no sun it gets to +100 sometimes on a hike or outside. My existing cameras all work at those temperatures.

Now I am worried.

I read that the problem occurs when shooting 4k Video.

Those who have posted about having problems, was that with video or still shots?


*Most* of my tools are "outdoor tools"...but that's neither here nor there, I guess what I'm saying, with my built-in behavior structure, is that even working in high temps I'll find a way to keep these tools out of direct sunlight *most* of the time, and that, I think, is key. Instead of dangling the thing on your chest, put it off to the side? I dunno, if this condition ever struck me I'd be concerned, I just don't think it'll happen.

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Jun 21, 2019 17:56:20   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Hudson Henry did a video on "Z" camera weather sealing and robustness.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9ZR4FunRo&mc_eid=87284a1fdc&feature=youtu.be&mc_cid=6441d0d29c

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Jun 23, 2019 02:16:02   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Bill_de wrote:
Hudson Henry did a video on "Z" camera weather sealing and robustness.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9ZR4FunRo&mc_eid=87284a1fdc&feature=youtu.be&mc_cid=6441d0d29c

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Thank you Bill I will check that out.

FYI. It was about 80 F outside this evening, I went to an outdoor Cafe for dinner. And just for the heck of it I placed my OM-D in direct sunlight and let the sun it warm it up. After a bit, it was pretty warm. It worked fine.

I don't normally intentionally place my camera in direct sun.
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