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Sep 4, 2012 12:28:38   #
john vance Loc: Granbury,Texas
 
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Hardly think so.

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Sep 4, 2012 12:31:52   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even know the difference?
Racism
"Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, attitudes, or beliefs that reflect or support the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races". This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others"

Bigotry
"Bigotry is the state of mind or attitude of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, personal feelings, political alignment, race, region, culture, religious or spiritual belief, sex, species, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view"

RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)

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Sep 4, 2012 12:33:14   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)


So what relevant point are you trying to make with your incomplete sentences and thoughts?Are you even a US citizen?

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Sep 4, 2012 12:54:16   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even know the difference?
Racism
"Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, attitudes, or beliefs that reflect or support the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races". This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others"

Bigotry
"Bigotry is the state of mind or attitude of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, personal feelings, political alignment, race, region, culture, religious or spiritual belief, sex, species, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view"

RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even kno... (show quote)


I chose bigotry because it applies perfectly to attitudes of angry white men especially after you decided to post its definition. These people are threatened by everything around them, immigration, gays and lesbians, women working. As stated previously, they want things to be they were when they were in control of their women and other folks "knew their place".

Reply
Sep 4, 2012 12:59:56   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
yhtomit wrote:
RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)


So what relevant point are you trying to make with your incomplete sentences and thoughts?Are you even a US citizen?
quote=RixPix quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=si... (show quote)


Now, why would you ask me about my citizenship? Is it because I know some points about the Constitution that most Americans do not? Sorry about the choppy sentence structure I am working on a large project in Photoshop with a deadline so I am clicking back and forth. So I pasted my post into word...no incomplete sentences, just one passive sentence and one with archaic structure all were complete.

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Sep 4, 2012 13:12:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
From your post, you think you know what people on the right are thinking. I'd agree that maybe some are, but to generalize the entire party that way shows either ignorance or bigotry on your part


RixPix wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even know the difference?
Racism
"Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, attitudes, or beliefs that reflect or support the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races". This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others"

Bigotry
"Bigotry is the state of mind or attitude of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, personal feelings, political alignment, race, region, culture, religious or spiritual belief, sex, species, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view"

RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even kno... (show quote)


I chose bigotry because it applies perfectly to attitudes of angry white men especially after you decided to post its definition. These people are threatened by everything around them, immigration, gays and lesbians, women working. As stated previously, they want things to be they were when they were in control of their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=Screamin Scott You use bigotry instead of r... (show quote)

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Sep 4, 2012 13:19:17   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
RixPix wrote:

Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
br Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a co... (show quote)


There are rare moments when you and I almost agree on something. During those moments I check my heart rate to make certain I haven't died and been consigned to some sort of liberal hell.

Your response here is one of those moments when you almost sound rational until the last sentence.

The old men of today, at least the ones who can still produce an independent thought, are the remains of the youth that you hold so dear. We know where we screwed up and try to improve conditions for our children and you young know-it-all young bucks. Our anger comes from the fact that you are so caught up in your “revolutionary” ideas that you can’t see the truth of the world. Our anger comes from the realization that we were the same way and left our “revolutionary” ideas lead us astray. Our anger comes from people like you that will give no consideration to the fact that maybe, just maybe you don’t know as much as you think you do. I lived through a world of real racism and bigotry and would never wish anyone into that world. I do not long for the days of old. They sucked. There is so much opportunity and possibility in today’s world that it does make me angry to see you youngsters throwing it away. Change is the very essence of life and it isn't just the old that have problems accepting it.

Why don’t you print this post and look at it again when you hit your 70s, then you will understand what I am talking about. Until then stop putting words and thoughts into my head. You have enough mush in your head to sort out.

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Sep 4, 2012 13:20:12   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
RixPix wrote:
yhtomit wrote:
RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry white men li... (show quote)


Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=sinatraman angry... (show quote)


So what relevant point are you trying to make with your incomplete sentences and thoughts?Are you even a US citizen?
quote=RixPix quote=ted45 quote=RixPix quote=si... (show quote)


Now, why would you ask me about my citizenship? Is it because I know some points about the Constitution that most Americans do not? Sorry about the choppy sentence structure I am working on a large project in Photoshop with a deadline so I am clicking back and forth. So I pasted my post into word...no incomplete sentences, just one passive sentence and one with archaic structure all were complete.
quote=yhtomit quote=RixPix quote=ted45 quote=R... (show quote)



Citizenship?Yes, I believe you are subversive and bigoted and trying to rewrite history that is already well defined.Just what is your agenda?
Ok what points do you think you know that most Americans do not?
I too am working on a massive CS6 project.But I still proof read before I hit"Send".You did not.Reread and you we see that I'm right...

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Sep 4, 2012 13:44:42   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
From your post, you think you know what people on the right are thinking. I'd agree that maybe some are, but to generalize the entire party that way shows either ignorance or bigotry on your part


RixPix wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
You use bigotry instead of racism. Do you even know the difference?
Racism
"Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, attitudes, or beliefs that reflect or support the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races". This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others"

Bigotry
"Bigotry is the state of mind or attitude of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, personal feelings, political alignment, race, region, culture, religious or spiritual belief, sex, species, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view"

RixPix wrote:
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
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Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
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Hindsight is always 20/20. The world was a completely different place 70 years ago when the Nazis were a threat. The men that fought in that war were young men just like those who are fighting in wars today. The military was segregated and if you were not white you knew place. That is bigotry. Now, the world has progressed as new young people have changed it to a very different place than it was 70 YEARS AGO. We can go back 50 years and find the segregation in society and the bigotry. Now the survivors of that age long for those days. These are the angry old men to whom I refer. Their world is gone...as it should be just as my world that I knew 40 years ago is gone.

Society experiences progress only when men with fixed thoughts die and are replaced by new thinkers. That's something you just have to over, old man.
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I chose bigotry because it applies perfectly to attitudes of angry white men especially after you decided to post its definition. These people are threatened by everything around them, immigration, gays and lesbians, women working. As stated previously, they want things to be they were when they were in control of their women and other folks "knew their place".
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I make no distinction as to political leanings. My observations are strictly an analysis of the social interaction. We as humans become stodgy and resistant to change as we age. Knowing this, I fight these tendencies in my own interactions.

There are angry white men in both political parties. My father fought in WWII and if alive I have doubt would be angry white man and a democrat. My paternal grandfather was born during the Civil War, his father fought at Gettysburg and other battles for the North. His father was born in Pennsylvania during the period after the American Revolution in the early 1800's the child of a Hessian soldier and English mother. I am as American as they come, not to quantify it but more than most in this country. If you are doing the math on this lineage of mine, I must point out that my father was born in 1921. He was the second youngest of 13 children. His father died at the age of 63 in 1926 he was born in 1863. I was born during the Cold War in 1958 when my father was 37.

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Sep 4, 2012 13:44:50   #
eskiles Loc: Palmer Alaska
 
Your statement is right on. Thanks.
dirty dave wrote:
If you want to see angry and just not white men come and visit the southern coal fields of Wv where I grew up and still live. It is A very depressed area but we do have our free cell phones but no jobs. I really do invite any one to come and visit it will change your perspective of this economy. I think both political parties are tearing this country apart. We need solutions not politics.

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Sep 4, 2012 14:35:57   #
pjreed Loc: Tonopah, Arizona
 
ted45 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
angry white men like john adams, patrickhenry, George Washington and thomas jefferson founded this country. Better angry white men then the democrats angry old hippies, marxists and feminazis!


sinatraman, you are wrong once again of course I expect that from you, since you have read a book since you found god.

John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, anti-government intellectuals...the hippies of their day that developed the most radical form of self-rule the world had seen to date. These non-conformists were against every establishment of the old world including religious and political oppression.

Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks "knew their place".
quote=sinatraman angry white men like john adams,... (show quote)


Where in God’s name do you come up with this crap? John Adams, Patrick Henry, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were radical, and anti-tyranny. Did you ever read a history book and understand the reasons we no longer celebrate the Kings birthday? They were men who were not content to allow a monarch to take everything they had through taxation or tell them how to run their daily lives. Not a one of them would have anything to do with the liberal cradle to grave government, people like you advocate today.

The “angry old white men” of this country fought wars to end repression and over reaching governments including our own. It wasn’t black men that started the war to end slavery – it was “angry old white men”. It was “angry old white men” that stopped the Nazi takeover of Europe. It was “angry old white men” that helped people like George Washington Carver escape the tyranny of slavery and become one of the greatest inventors in our history. What makes them angry is realizing that all of their efforts and sacrifice have brought us the current crop of socialist leaning youth intent on throwing away the unlimited opportunity that this country represents. It has brought us to a government that feels it has the right to tell us how much sugar we can consume or how we should exercise and when. Of course all "angry old white men" are conservatives. Have you ever listened to Reid or Pelosi speak?

If you read the entire article about the miners you will find the quote from the mine owner saying that he did not pay the men because of a federal law that forbids paying workers to attend a political event: A law that the Democrats and Unions have no problem violating. The statement - “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”, is common in business, although not usually stated in exactly that way. It simply means that we want you to attend but if you don’t there will be no punishment. Not all of the miners attended and there are no reports that anyone was punished for not attending.

You sir, are the bigot in the room. How dare you assume what every old white man thinks or wants. If there was an ex-lax for the brain I would happily buy you some.
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Sep 4, 2012 14:57:20   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
docrob wrote:
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
--Washington Post, August 29, 2012

So Lindsey tells us plain and simple the only way for R&R to win is to make white guys angry.........

I wonder if these guys feel angry - used - powerless - happy?

Employees of a major coal industry donor to Republican causes have raised complaints about their participation in an event earlier this month organized for GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney in the crucial swing state of Ohio.

Several miners at Murray Energy’s Century coal mine in Beallsville, Ohio, contacted a nearby morning talk radio host, David Blomquist, over the last two weeks to say that they were forced to attend an Aug. 14 rally for Romney at the mine. Murray closed the mine the day of the rally, saying it was necessary for security and safety, then docked miners the day's pay. Asked by WWVA radio’s Blomquist about the allegations on Monday’s show, Murray chief operating officer Robert Moore said: “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”

Just obey your betters and keep quiet!

Ann Rand's double speak soon to be playing at a factory near you.
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said S... (show quote)


DocRob you accused me earlier of not reading your original post. I’ve decided you are correct, I haven’t responded to what you wrote.

The liberals have already trotted out the “R” word and the even more hated “B” word. According to RixPix I can be describe as follows: “Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks knew their place". That being said I believe I can use some plain old unvarnished English to respond to your post. Libs like you that harbor white guilt for what your distant ancestors did, even though you would have agreed with them 100% had you lived in their time and place, are going to have their heads explode by the following statement.

So here goes: White/Caucasians comprise 72.4% of the population of the United States. Blacks or African Americans comprise 12.6% of the population with the remaining 15% divided among several dozen races. 43% of the population are whites over 50.

There is no man or woman, not even Obama, that can be elected to office without appealing to the old white folks. Happy, confortable people usually don't show up to vote. Maybe Mr. Graham was simply pointing to common sense.

Robert Moore made his statement as the CEO of the mine. I haven’t read anywhere that he asked for permission or approval from the Republicans to express his view.

A novel is a fiction based on fact. Ann Rand wrote fiction based on her concept of the future, not fact. Believing that Ms. Rand is some visionary is like believing L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who created Scientology to win a bar bet, has some deep insight into religion.

If your head hasn't vaporized, DocRob there is no reason to respond; I already know you are going to call me an idiot.

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Sep 4, 2012 16:37:09   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
ted45 wrote:
docrob wrote:
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
--Washington Post, August 29, 2012

So Lindsey tells us plain and simple the only way for R&R to win is to make white guys angry.........

I wonder if these guys feel angry - used - powerless - happy?

Employees of a major coal industry donor to Republican causes have raised complaints about their participation in an event earlier this month organized for GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney in the crucial swing state of Ohio.

Several miners at Murray Energy’s Century coal mine in Beallsville, Ohio, contacted a nearby morning talk radio host, David Blomquist, over the last two weeks to say that they were forced to attend an Aug. 14 rally for Romney at the mine. Murray closed the mine the day of the rally, saying it was necessary for security and safety, then docked miners the day's pay. Asked by WWVA radio’s Blomquist about the allegations on Monday’s show, Murray chief operating officer Robert Moore said: “Attendance was mandatory but no one was forced to attend the event.”

Just obey your betters and keep quiet!

Ann Rand's double speak soon to be playing at a factory near you.
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said S... (show quote)


DocRob you accused me earlier of not reading your original post. I’ve decided you are correct, I haven’t responded to what you wrote.

The liberals have already trotted out the “R” word and the even more hated “B” word. According to RixPix I can be describe as follows: “Angry white men of today are frightened bigots who long for the day when they controlled their women and other folks knew their place". That being said I believe I can use some plain old unvarnished English to respond to your post. Libs like you that harbor white guilt for what your distant ancestors did, even though you would have agreed with them 100% had you lived in their time and place, are going to have their heads explode by the following statement.

So here goes: White/Caucasians comprise 72.4% of the population of the United States. Blacks or African Americans comprise 12.6% of the population with the remaining 15% divided among several dozen races. 43% of the population are whites over 50.

There is no man or woman, not even Obama, that can be elected to office without appealing to the old white folks. Happy, confortable people usually don't show up to vote. Maybe Mr. Graham was simply pointing to common sense.

Robert Moore made his statement as the CEO of the mine. I haven’t read anywhere that he asked for permission or approval from the Republicans to express his view.

A novel is a fiction based on fact. Ann Rand wrote fiction based on her concept of the future, not fact. Believing that Ms. Rand is some visionary is like believing L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer who created Scientology to win a bar bet, has some deep insight into religion.

If your head hasn't vaporized, DocRob there is no reason to respond; I already know you are going to call me an idiot.
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If I may add...not all older white people are angry...just the ones who listen to Limbaugh and his rhetoric believing him without question.

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Sep 4, 2012 16:54:01   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
RixPix wrote:

If I may add...not all older white people are angry...just the ones who listen to Limbaugh and his rhetoric believing him without question.


Fair enough! I haven't listened to Rush Bimbow for years. 8-)

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Sep 4, 2012 16:57:37   #
dtcracer
 
I have seen a lot of crap under General Chit Chat here on Ugly Hedgehog. But this has got to be the most racist load I have read on this forum.

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