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Jun 20, 2019 16:12:14   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
I already have about a half dozen times In recent past. You want to challenge me that you are not taking his words out of context and lying about it?


If you accuse me of taking something out of context, then you need to provide the full context to back up your accusation. "I told you before" is complete BS.

You made the charge, burden of proof is on you. if you can't back up your mudslinging, then you are just hiding behind your insults. Like a child.

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Jun 20, 2019 16:19:44   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Angmo wrote:
That’s where you need to. Then apologize for not listening properly. It’s like reading comprehension but with ears and listening.


here ya go. I think you are the one who owes an apology.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomnamako/full-transcript-trump-defending-white-supremacists

Calling me a liar and taking things out of context is just hilarious. Really, you cultists and paste eaters are now just embarrassing yourselves.

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Jun 20, 2019 16:35:00   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Bazbo wrote:
Then why can't your Dear Leader do it?

We don't have Nazis running around. Well, the Tikki torch crowd was chanting "blood and soil"--a Nazi slogan--and "Jews will not replace us"--kind of speaks for itself. And who among the torch nearing chanters are, according to BLOTUS, "good people"?

Your standard issue insult means nothing to me.


Little Frankie, this is more crap like you tried to post the other day saying all mass shooters were Republicans or as you called them "righties". There are crazies everywhere, just look at who the dems have out there running for President. By the way, your post makes you look ignorant.

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Jun 20, 2019 17:13:44   #
Angmo
 
Bazbo wrote:
here ya go. I think you are the one who owes an apology.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/trump-defends-white-nationalist-protesters-some-very-fine-people-on-both-sides/537012/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomnamako/full-transcript-trump-defending-white-supremacists

Calling me a liar and taking things out of context is just hilarious. Really, you cultists and paste eaters are now just embarrassing yourselves.


Okee. Toss in some reading comprehension then apologize.

Mature, educated Adults will agree you’re making a false statement.

“very fine people on both sides” refers to the controversy over Lee’s statue not over spreading hate. Trump also pondered if it is George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after.

It’s reading comprehension.

Not

Reading kkkomprehension, kkkomarade.

A Confederate survivor of Gettysburg who wrote a letter with some useful advice: “My experience of men has neither disposed me to think worse of them nor indisposed me to serve them; nor in spite in spite of failures which I lament, of errors which I now see and acknowledge, or of the present aspect of affairs, do I despair of the future. The truth is this: The march of Providence is so slow and our desires so impatient; the work of progress so immense and our means of aiding it so feeble; the life of humanity is so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often see only the ebb of the advancing wave and are thus discouraged. It is history that teaches us to hope.”

- Robert E. Lee, 1870

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Jun 20, 2019 20:12:12   #
EyeSawYou
 
Bazbo wrote:
If you accuse me of taking something out of context, then you need to provide the full context to back up your accusation. "I told you before" is complete BS.

You made the charge, burden of proof is on you. if you can't back up your mudslinging, then you are just hiding behind your insults. Like a child.


You are such an illiterate foolish man, let me ask you again and give you a chance to recant your lie and taken out of context quote....."You want to challenge me that you are not taking his words out of context and lying about it?"

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Jun 20, 2019 20:18:29   #
EyeSawYou
 
Bazbo wrote:
If you accuse me of taking something out of context, then you need to provide the full context to back up your accusation. "I told you before" is complete BS.

You made the charge, burden of proof is on you. if you can't back up your mudslinging, then you are just hiding behind your insults. Like a child.


Here you go you little deceptive pathological liar. Heck, even CNN's Jake Tapper said Trump was not referring to the white supremacists as very fine people, now Tapper said he didn't know who was good on that side, but at least he was more honest than a liar like you.


Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.

. By Steve CortesMarch 21, 2019
Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais
News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He [Trump] didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”

My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

Nonetheless, countless so-called journalists have furthered this damnable lie. For example, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace responded that Trump had “given safe harbor to Nazis, to white supremacists.” Her NBC colleague Chuck Todd claimed Trump “gave me the wrong kind of chills. Honestly, I’m a bit shaken from what I just heard.” Not to be outdone, print also got in on the act, with the New York Times spewing the blatantly propagandist headline: “Trump Gives White Supremacists Unequivocal Boost.” How could the Times possibly reconcile that Trump, who admonished that the supremacists should be “condemned totally” somehow also delivered an “unequivocal boost” to those very same miscreants?

But like many fake news narratives, repetition has helped cement this one into a reasonably plausible storyline for all but the most skeptical consumers of news. In fact, over the weekend, Fox News host Chris Wallace pressed White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney on why Trump has not given a speech “condemning … white supremacist bigotry.” Well, Chris, he has, and more than once. The most powerful version was from the White House following Charlottesville and the heartbreaking death of Heather Heyer. President Trump’s succinct and direct words:

“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis “fine people.” The only explanation for such a repeated falsehood is abject laziness or willful deception. Either way, the duplicity on this topic perhaps encapsulates the depressingly low trust most Americans place in major media, with 77 percent stating in a Monmouth University 2018 poll that traditional TV and newspapers report fake news. In addition, such lies as the Charlottesville Hoax needlessly further divide our already-polarized society.

Instead of hyper-partisan, distorted narratives, as American citizens we should demand adherence to truth -- and adherence to the common values that bind us regardless of politics. In the words of our president: “No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

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Jun 20, 2019 21:02:47   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Trying to educate the left using logic and fact is definitely like pissing into the wind.
They lack the ability to comprehend what you are presenting - - AND
You waste your time doing it.
Except that it DOES make your point. So sad we have to do it over, and over, and over

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Jun 20, 2019 22:25:03   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Trying to educate the left using logic and fact is definitely like pissing into the wind and making everyone behind you believe that it's just rain.
They lack the ability to comprehend what you are presenting - - AND
You waste your time doing it.
Except that it DOES make your point. So sad we have to do it over, and over, and over

We have to do it over and over because, unfortunately, the left is SOS. (Stuck On Stupid)

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Jun 21, 2019 07:23:43   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Here you go you little deceptive pathological liar. Heck, even CNN's Jake Tapper said Trump was not referring to the white supremacists as very fine people, now Tapper said he didn't know who was good on that side, but at least he was more honest than a liar like you.


Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.

. By Steve CortesMarch 21, 2019
Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof.AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais
News anchors and pundits have repeated lies about Donald Trump and race so often that some of these narratives seem true, even to Americans who embrace the fruits of the president’s policies. The most pernicious and pervasive of these lies is the “Charlottesville Hoax,” the fake-news fabrication that he described the neo-Nazis who rallied in Charlottesville, Va., in August 2017 as “fine people.”

Just last week I exposed this falsehood, yet again, when CNN contributor Keith Boykin falsely stated, “When violent people were marching with tiki torches in Charlottesville, the president said they were ‘very fine people.’” When I objected and detailed that Trump’s “fine people on both sides” observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate, and specifically excluded the violent supremacists, anchor Erin Burnett interjected, “He [Trump] didn’t say it was on the monument debate at all. No, they didn’t even try to use that defense. It’s a good one, but no one’s even tried to use it, so you just used it now.”

My colleagues seem prepared to dispute our own network’s correct contemporaneous reporting and the very clear transcripts of the now-infamous Trump Tower presser on the tragic events of Charlottesville. Here are the unambiguous actual words of President Trump:

“Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

After another question at that press conference, Trump became even more explicit:

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

As a man charged with publicly explaining Donald Trump’s often meandering and colloquial vernacular in highly adversarial TV settings, I appreciate more than most the sometimes-murky nature of his off-script commentaries. But these Charlottesville statements leave little room for interpretation. For any honest person, therefore, to conclude that the president somehow praised the very people he actually derided, reveals a blatant and blinding level of bias.

Nonetheless, countless so-called journalists have furthered this damnable lie. For example, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace responded that Trump had “given safe harbor to Nazis, to white supremacists.” Her NBC colleague Chuck Todd claimed Trump “gave me the wrong kind of chills. Honestly, I’m a bit shaken from what I just heard.” Not to be outdone, print also got in on the act, with the New York Times spewing the blatantly propagandist headline: “Trump Gives White Supremacists Unequivocal Boost.” How could the Times possibly reconcile that Trump, who admonished that the supremacists should be “condemned totally” somehow also delivered an “unequivocal boost” to those very same miscreants?

But like many fake news narratives, repetition has helped cement this one into a reasonably plausible storyline for all but the most skeptical consumers of news. In fact, over the weekend, Fox News host Chris Wallace pressed White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney on why Trump has not given a speech “condemning … white supremacist bigotry.” Well, Chris, he has, and more than once. The most powerful version was from the White House following Charlottesville and the heartbreaking death of Heather Heyer. President Trump’s succinct and direct words:

“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Despite the clear evidence of Trump’s statements regarding Charlottesville, major media figures insist on spreading the calumny that Trump called neo-Nazis “fine people.” The only explanation for such a repeated falsehood is abject laziness or willful deception. Either way, the duplicity on this topic perhaps encapsulates the depressingly low trust most Americans place in major media, with 77 percent stating in a Monmouth University 2018 poll that traditional TV and newspapers report fake news. In addition, such lies as the Charlottesville Hoax needlessly further divide our already-polarized society.

Instead of hyper-partisan, distorted narratives, as American citizens we should demand adherence to truth -- and adherence to the common values that bind us regardless of politics. In the words of our president: “No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html
Here you go you little deceptive pathological liar... (show quote)


Agitprops have no interest in truth.

The transcripts have been posted multiple times, agitprops care not about what was actually said.

Agitprops are only interested in agitation and propaganda:

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Jun 21, 2019 08:10:41   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Little Frankie, this is more crap like you tried to post the other day saying all mass shooters were Republicans or as you called them "righties". There are crazies everywhere, just look at who the dems have out there running for President. By the way, your post makes you look ignorant.


My God Elaine, stop fantasizing about me.
The post you were responding to wasn't even mine.

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Jun 21, 2019 10:08:22   #
EyeSawYou
 
LWW wrote:
Agitprops have no interest in truth.

The transcripts have been posted multiple times, agitprops care not about what was actually said.

Agitprops are only interested in agitation and propaganda:


Notice BigWahoop hasn't responded?

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