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Jun 10, 2019 14:08:51   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Tex-s wrote:
You are aware, I'll assume, that framing everything the way you did in your last paragraph, "a struggle between those who have and those who have not" is the EXACT definition of Marxism? You are aware, i'll assume, that pegging individuals within a society as enemies due to circumstance invites only one origin for remedy? Government. And when government becomes sacrosanct, it's only a matter of time before the true tyrant arrives? The 'place' for all of your supposedly oppressed people is looking to advance their lives, the lives of their family, and community, and then their nation. It's no one's place to look to destroy what remains of our national fabric.

What's truly missing in America is a sense of gratitude: all of us that we are grotesquely wealthy by global standards, all of us that we have the best of sanitation, medicine, food, and luxuries, women not to be in several countries where genital mutilation is still the norm, gays for not being in some of those same places where they would simply be killed...... America is only a true failure if you compare it to a fairy tale, not to other real places. Can things be improved? Of course, but the last batch of 'improvement' had a witches brew of unintended side effects, like women effectively marrying government instead of fathers, like an entire sub-culture of dependency, like far too may people of minority status having their credentials brought into question because of lowered educational standards.....

With all of the history at our backs, modern America has a lot of roads that should not be chosen based on past experience. Sadly, as you noted, people more of my viewpoint tend to look to re-install arrangement seen by others as oppressive. However, inviting more legislation like that that decimated the black family is all I hear from the left. Educated citizens need to vote DC out of existence and then look at real solutions instead of looking at our reps as though they should be expected to solve anything. Let's insult the idiots at the top before we insult each other as idiots for listening to the DC idiots, the college indoctrination idiots, the media idiots, and the Hollywood idiots.
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Jun 10, 2019 14:10:33   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
silver wrote:
Stupid post.


No it wasn't!

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Jun 10, 2019 14:11:19   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
suntouched wrote:
What happened to common sense along the way? And accountability? All gone.



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Jun 10, 2019 14:12:27   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
The discipline I was taught made me a better student, more tolerant and respectful of other peoples feelings.
I grew up knowing what the words work, reverence and respect meant. I knew how and when to say yes mam,no mam, yes sir, no sir and thank you. I learned to respect others rights, opinions and property. I knew the meaning of truth, honor and duty. I survived knowing that the world does not owe me a living and if I want something i have to work for it. I learned love and respect for family friends and co workers, I have survived!
The discipline I was taught made me a better stude... (show quote)



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Jun 10, 2019 14:15:22   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
LMurray wrote:
So funny, so true, so sad



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Jun 10, 2019 14:16:09   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
traderjohn wrote:
An honest person would have beaten him.



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Jun 10, 2019 14:18:00   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
machia wrote:
Common sense was a big part of that earlier time period. Liberalism helped us grow in many areas of society but something happened along the way.
It’s complex, but there is a definite societal breakdown today. Leftism is rapidly replacing Liberalism, and this should be a warning to all.
If Democrats who have largely adopted this ideology of the Left ever regains power, well there are plenty of examples to illustrate the outcome. Take a look at Downtown LA. Imagine that on a national scale.
Common sense was a big part of that earlier time p... (show quote)


God help us!


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Jun 10, 2019 14:34:33   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
The discipline I was taught made me a better student, more tolerant and respectful of other peoples feelings.
I grew up knowing what the words work, reverence and respect meant. I knew how and when to say yes mam,no mam, yes sir, no sir and thank you. I learned to respect others rights, opinions and property. I knew the meaning of truth, honor and duty. I survived knowing that the world does not owe me a living and if I want something i have to work for it. I learned love and respect for family friends and co workers, I have survived!
The discipline I was taught made me a better stude... (show quote)


Amen to that.

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Jun 10, 2019 14:38:12   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
LoisCroft wrote:
I am a grandmother and have talked to many like myself. It seems everyone I talk to will give their grandchildren a good spanking when the situation warrants it, while the kids parents opt for drugs and therapy instead. Yet no one asks, why do these kids behave so much better for the grandparents?


Because they have made it understood (in a loving way) that they will still demand respect, and that they still love those grandchildren like they love their own children. And I wonder how many of those grandparents are thinking, how many of these younger people realize how much things have changed since the pledge allegiance was no longer the start of a school day just because there was one or two children in class from another country who have been taught that we owe them and we need to salute their flag instead of ours, or when they first started removing anything about God from schools and public buildings, and I wonder how many children today respect Our Lord or have a fear of God in them if they knowingly do something bad. God and faith and prayer has been removed from a lot of our day to day lives. The way things are today, in my opinion, it is God letting us know that HE is not happy with us. A lot of people will laugh at someone like me who believes in Our Lord. He is called a fictitious person walking around in the clouds. What will you answer to Him when your time comes on judgement day? Those who support the way things are today and look down on older people like me who believe in the things that this country was founded on (Christian Judaeo beliefs), I hope you enjoy your days now, because it certainly won.t be good for you on judgement day. This is all true if God is real. Good luck on that depending on your beliefs.

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Jun 10, 2019 14:45:51   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
TriX wrote:
I can promise you that children diagnosed with ADD are NOT eligible for SSI disability or any other type of monetary compensation. If you think ADD can be cured by paddling, or that all ADD drugs, properly prescribed and administered produce zombies, then you don’t know what the hell you’re taliking about. In fact, as the parent of two ADD genetically afflicted boys, both properly diagnosed and treated (and tutored/assisted, not paddled), one of which has a masters degree and is an acclaimed teacher and the other a fire chief, I will break my long-standing rule against ad-hominem attacks, and call you what you are - a stupid, ignorant reprobate. You have insulted every parent and child who has agonized and struggled with this disability, and you owe them all an apology.
I can promise you that children diagnosed with ADD... (show quote)


The problem with that is that when these drugs were first brought to life, those in charge would throw drugs at parents and kids every time a problem arose. Any child who had a learning or behavior problem show up the first thing they said was, well he or she must need drugs. What are they blaming it on now?

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Jun 10, 2019 14:49:42   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
redlegfrog wrote:
What Liberalism has done to our soceity...

Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOL 1957 vs. 2017 ! ! ! !
By today's standards none of us were supposed to ever make it.

HIGH-SCHOOL
1957 vs. 2017

Scenario 1:

Jack goes duck hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2017- School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2017 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled - even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2017 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.


Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2017 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being spanked herself, and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.


Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
2014 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.


Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2017 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.


Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2017 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The, FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.


Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957–In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2017- Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


how stupid we have become!
What Liberalism has done to our soceity... br br... (show quote)


Congratulations redlegfrog. You sure got a start out of a lot of the nay sayers today. Some folks just hate to face the truth.

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Jun 10, 2019 16:17:39   #
Mr Quark
 
sorry TRIXIE. but you need to get your facts straight.. Some ADD persons are eligible for SSI. Guess you would rather whine than study........

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Jun 10, 2019 17:06:20   #
Jim70 Loc: Delaware
 
…"Trump got elected"....

...and thank God for that!.....

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Jun 10, 2019 18:31:17   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
redlegfrog wrote:
What Liberalism has done to our soceity...

Subject: Re: HIGH SCHOOL 1957 vs. 2017 ! ! ! !
By today's standards none of us were supposed to ever make it.

HIGH-SCHOOL
1957 vs. 2017

Scenario 1:

Jack goes duck hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2017- School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2017 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled - even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2017 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.


Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2017 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being spanked herself, and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.


Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
2014 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.


Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2017 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.


Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2017 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The, FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.


Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957–In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2017- Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


how stupid we have become!
What Liberalism has done to our soceity... br br... (show quote)

I wonder who is to blame for all of this?

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Jun 10, 2019 19:10:15   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 

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