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Jun 1, 2019 23:07:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
btbg wrote:
So you are not only calling half of the country dumb, but you are trying to analyze a group that you clearly don't understand.

For what it's worth I have a masters degree in education. I know the constitution and I know the way politics work, and the way many of us believe they should work.

My friends are also educated, despite the fact that most of us have jobs that you probably think are beneath you.

You are absolutely correct that the whole country loses when politicians are ineffective or corrupt.

That's what happened the eight years under Obama. Those of you who decry Trump need to understand without Obama and Clinton Trump could never have happened.

Talk about ineffective, that was the entire Obama administration.

And talk about corrupt, that's the Clintons, and the more we find out it looks like that goes for much of the department of justice as well as CIA under Obama. You have correctly identified the problem. You just fail to recognize the answer. I didn't vote for Trump because he's not conservative enough for me. I will absolutely vote for Trump in 2020 because he has tried harder to keep his political promises than any president in my lifetime.

Yet despite his actually trying to keep his campaign promises, something that Obama never did, everyone on the left screams that he's a liar and corrupt. Well if that's corrupt, what do you call lying politicians like Obama and Clinton?

When you elect those who hate the U.S. like Obama did this is what you get is half of the country tries to correct the problem.
So you are not only calling half of the country du... (show quote)


Well said. Liberals are all for strict enforcement of the law except when it means they will be investigated and imprisoned. Pelosi wants Trump to not be above the law, wants Barr in prison for lying. But somehow she misses Hillary, Holder, Brennan, Comey, Susan Rice and Clapper, all of who have lied.

I wonder why Liberals here don’t find that idea hypocritical.

Dennis

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Jun 2, 2019 00:54:31   #
btbg
 
Architect1776 wrote:

PS as a trump supporter I have a bachelors degree in Science and a Master of Architecture and Licensed as well as NCARB certified (Licenses in over 30 states). Currently managing design work and other Architecture firms for projects totaling over $450 million construction cost.


Thanks. That is exactly the point I was making.

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Jun 2, 2019 00:56:40   #
btbg
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well said. Liberals are all for strict enforcement of the law except when it means they will be investigated and imprisoned. Pelosi wants Trump to not be above the law, wants Barr in prison for lying. But somehow she misses Hillary, Holder, Brennan, Comey, Susan Rice and Clapper, all of who have lied.

I wonder why Liberals here don’t find that idea hypocritical.

Dennis


I think it is because they believe that the end justifies the means.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:10:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
btbg wrote:
I think it is because they believe that the end justifies the means.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:11:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
They absolutely do. Anything goes for them, lies, cheating, moving the goalposts and so on, so long as they win.

Dennis

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Jun 2, 2019 08:44:39   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
btbg wrote:
Not deflecting in any way shape or form. Justice should be blind and equal for all.

It should not be partisan or different for one individual than another. For example Jussie Smollett should have been forced to admit guilt in order to have his charges dropped. That didn't happen because of who he knew.

Prosecuting Trump is fine, but only if the same standard is used for Obama, Hillary, Lynch, Holder, et al. If the same level of investigation and the same standard of proof is used on all, then I'm fine with going after Trump or anyone else.

It isn't deflecting to point out that a different standard is being used. And it should be pointed out that your bias is now showing big time. You have just admitted that you don't care about justice, only getting rid of a politician that you don't like.

Those of us on the right detest Obama and everything he stands for, but we never went to the point of trumping up charges against him.

The article that started this post is very relevant to this discussion and is not deflection. It clearly points out that the "crimes" that you accuse Trump of could never have happened if Obama, Holder and Lynch had done their job.

Now Barr is trying to do his job and you rail against him because he is looking at all sides, something that should have always happened.
Not deflecting in any way shape or form. Justice s... (show quote)


They were ok with Holder being Obama's "Wingman".

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Jun 2, 2019 08:49:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
idaholover wrote:
They were ok with Holder being Obama's "Wingman".



And Lynch running interference.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:52:18   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
idaholover wrote:
They were ok with Holder being Obama's "Wingman".


Barr is Trump's Himmler in comparison!

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Jun 2, 2019 08:53:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Barr is Trump's Himmler in comparison!


Proof of this insane comment.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:02:25   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Barr is Trump's Himmler in comparison!


You said that. Holder actually said he was Obama's "Wingman". Barr is America's "Wingman".

https://www.politico.com/blogs/politico44/2013/04/eric-holder-im-still-the-presidents-wingman-160861

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Jun 2, 2019 19:51:42   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 

Steven Seward wrote:
You made me waste my time looking at that video!! I like looking at the links lefties give as evidence because it keeps me on my toes in case I have missed something. But that story was just a big nothingburger. Some Trump official asked somebody "what's happening" in the Flynn investigation, and that's evidence of Obstruction??? You can't find anything better than that? Come on, there's no challenge in this.

I disparaged this link you sent about a recorded voicemail by Trump attorney John Dowd released by the Mueller Team, as evidence of Obstruction of Justice. It has now been revealed that the Mueller Team actually edited out portions of the transcript to make it look more like like Obstruction of Justice than it really does. I didn't think the edited voicemail sounded like Obstruction at all, but now it is being revealed as completely harmless.

https://iotwreport.com/mueller-edited-messages-in-flynn-report-to-appear-damaging/

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Jun 2, 2019 19:55:19   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
btbg wrote:
So you are not only calling half of the country dumb, but you are trying to analyze a group that you clearly don't understand.

For what it's worth I have a masters degree in education. I know the constitution and I know the way politics work, and the way many of us believe they should work.

My friends are also educated, despite the fact that most of us have jobs that you probably think are beneath you.

You are absolutely correct that the whole country loses when politicians are ineffective or corrupt.

That's what happened the eight years under Obama. Those of you who decry Trump need to understand without Obama and Clinton Trump could never have happened.

Talk about ineffective, that was the entire Obama administration.

And talk about corrupt, that's the Clintons, and the more we find out it looks like that goes for much of the department of justice as well as CIA under Obama. You have correctly identified the problem. You just fail to recognize the answer. I didn't vote for Trump because he's not conservative enough for me. I will absolutely vote for Trump in 2020 because he has tried harder to keep his political promises than any president in my lifetime.

Yet despite his actually trying to keep his campaign promises, something that Obama never did, everyone on the left screams that he's a liar and corrupt. Well if that's corrupt, what do you call lying politicians like Obama and Clinton?

When you elect those who hate the U.S. like Obama did this is what you get is half of the country tries to correct the problem.
So you are not only calling half of the country du... (show quote)

Right-on Brutha!

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Jun 2, 2019 19:56:55   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Barr is Trump's Himmler in comparison!


Make your your case.

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Jun 2, 2019 20:19:13   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
LWW wrote:
Make your your case.

Does anyone expect him to actually elaborate on one of his thoughts?

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Jun 3, 2019 04:39:01   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Does anyone expect him to actually elaborate on one of his thoughts?


No, but watching him dance is great entertainment.

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