Canon 80D and canon 6D markII
May 26, 2019 11:55:04 #
picturemom wrote:
What Canon L lens would be good for an 80 D. I read many a comments that said do not waste your money on and L lens for a crop camera.
Any Canon L lenses will yield 'fine' to 'excellent' performance with your 80D.
What an author might have been trying to say about full frame lenses on a crop body is the limitation of getting 'wide'. Take an otherwise great performer like the 24-105L. The drawback of this lens on a crop body is the limitation on the wide end where the perspective of 24mm x 1.6 yields a field of view of 38mm. Most general purpose EF-S / DX format lenses start at 18mm on the wide end to accomplish an equivalent field of view of approximate 28mm, much wider than 38mm. The individual photographer will make their own decision on the utility of a full-frame lens yielding an equivalent field of view of 38mm.
However, issues in the photographer's technique will typically not be addressed by a new lens nor new body. Examples demonstrating current issues cost nothing more than a small amount of time and effort to post and store to UHH.
May 26, 2019 11:57:21 #
picturemom wrote:
I find when I use my 15-85mm lens on the canon 80 D everything indoors has a yellow look to it. I assumed a FF 6DmarkII would not produce the yellowish look indoors? For my 80D I have all canon: 10-18 ef-s, 15-85 ef-s, 55-250 stm, and a Tamron 18-400 lens.
I run two of my businesses, so I have not had a lot of time with the Tamron 18-400 outdoors.
I just thought the 5d markII would produce nice family photos during my holiday indoor shots, inside school auditoriums ???
I run two of my businesses, so I have not had a lot of time with the Tamron 18-400 outdoors.
I just thought the 5d markII would produce nice family photos during my holiday indoor shots, inside school auditoriums ???
This yellow issue sounds like an issue in WB completely unrelated to lens nor body. But, seeing actual examples is the only way to see and understand what you've described.
May 26, 2019 12:02:10 #
Yes, the yellow color of your photos is probably caused by the wrong white balance setting being selected. You may want to set the camera on Auto White Balance and try some shots to see if that helps.
May 26, 2019 12:22:26 #
I would think the biggest advantage in owning both would be the FOV... Mixing and matching can give you a 2 body, 2 lens setup where you can kind of tailor your focal lengths more in tune to what your subjects are... I have a 6D and a 60D and the differences are negligible as far as " Crispness ". Actually I was a little disappointed in not getting the " Wow " factor when moving to FF and have had to improve my techniques and manage DOF a little better before I began to appreciate the advantages of FF. IMHO, go for the 6D II and only buy top shelf FF lenses that you can use on both bodies.
May 26, 2019 12:43:48 #
picturemom wrote:
What Canon L lens would be good for an 80 D. I read many a comments that said do not waste your money on and L lens for a crop camera.
Guess I and a lot of others including pros and a Canon Rep I am acquainted with didn't get that memo.
The L lenses are all FF lenses so will work on a crop sensor and if you ever get a FF will work on it also.
Bonus, on the crop sensor you only use the center of the image the lens throws and that is usually the highest IQ area of the lens - aka "The Sweet Spot".
I have a 24-105L and 100-400L mk 2.
So it depends on what you photograph the most which lens to get. Wide angle for landscapes, telephoto for birds/wildlife/sports etc or in between.
A Canon rep told me a year ago that currently the sharpest zooms Canon makes was the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II ($1600) but the EF-s 17-55 ($550) is an L lens in all but markings. Both good general purpose "walk around" lenses for a crop sensor. So is the EF 24-105L and the EF-s 18-135. Then tie in a high end 55-250, 70-200 or 70-300 and you cover most everything but birds (with birds there is seldom "long enough" and never "too long" unless you have gotten them used to coming to feeders close to you).
L lenses and the top EF-s lenses are not cheap, but you get what your pay for.
May 26, 2019 13:00:47 #
The EF-S lenses are smaller, lighter and less expensive. But because they are pretty much all zooms they tend to be slower than the EF primes and fast zooms. But that is what makes them smaller, lighter and cheaper to buy.
If you think you might one day go FF DSLR you are probably wise to buy EF lenses from the start keeping your options open.
If you think you might one day go FF DSLR you are probably wise to buy EF lenses from the start keeping your options open.
May 26, 2019 15:59:55 #
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
The 100 f/2.8L is a good lens. Also the 135mm f/2.0 and 200 L II f/2.8. And the 100-400 L IS II at similar price point of the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS III.
The other thing to understand from a lens standpoint is that the EF-S lenses are smaller and less expensive but are also not usable on the Canon FF bodies. They are crop DSLR body only for the DSLR line. They also tend to be much slower than the EF primes as they are virtually all zooms.
The other thing to understand from a lens standpoint is that the EF-S lenses are smaller and less expensive but are also not usable on the Canon FF bodies. They are crop DSLR body only for the DSLR line. They also tend to be much slower than the EF primes as they are virtually all zooms.
EF-S 60 f/2.8, EF-S 35 f/2.8, EF-S 24 f/2.8, the rest are indeed zooms.
May 26, 2019 16:15:30 #
robertjerl wrote:
Guess I and a lot of others including pros and a C... (show quote)
If the rep said the EF-S17-55 is an L lens in all but the markings, he was pulling your leg. Yes, the EF-S17-55 is a darn good lens and optically the best EF-S lens made, plus it's the standard for Canon crop sensor cameras, and at $1300 USD, not cheap at all, but its internal construction is not as robust as L series lenses, close but no cigar. It's not intended to take the environmental abuse L series lenses are. But again, it is a darn good lens.
May 26, 2019 16:22:40 #
picturemom wrote:
What Canon L lens would be good for an 80 D. I read many a comments that said do not waste your money on and L lens for a crop camera.
I have the Canon Rebel T6s crop camera and use the 100-400 L IS II lens on it for all my birding. It was not a waste of money for me!
May 26, 2019 16:24:12 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
If the rep said the EF-S17-55 is an L lens in all but the markings, he was pulling your leg. Yes, the EF-S17-55 is a darn good lens and optically the best EF-S lens made, plus it's the standard for Canon crop sensor cameras, and at $1300 USD, not cheap at all, but its internal construction is not as robust as L series lenses, close but no cigar. It's not intended to take the environmental abuse L series lenses are. But again, it is a darn good lens.
The question in the class was about sharpness and IQ.
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