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May 25, 2019 10:05:13   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
picturemom wrote:
Would it be wise to own both of these cameras at the same time? Or do not waste my money?


I own the 6D Mk II and the 70D because I like to have a backup camera on which I attach a different lens. The 70D and the 80D take super sharp photos if you have a good quality lens attached. So, I don't think you need the added body unless, like me, you want the backup.

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May 25, 2019 10:07:32   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
DebAnn wrote:
I own the 6D Mk II and the 70D because I like to have a backup camera on which I attach a different lens. The 70D and the 80D take super sharp photos if you have a good quality lens attached. So, I don't think you need the added body unless, like me, you want the backup.


And one more thing. If you do like to blow up photos to very large sizes, you can do it with shots from the 80D. There are now several programs that blow up without causing noise - ON1 RAW for instance. I have done several and they are excellent.

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May 25, 2019 10:33:05   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
picturemom wrote:
Would it be wise to own both of these cameras at the same time? Or do not waste my money?


I'm not certain about it being wise or not. I do own a Canon 80D and also a 5D Mark IV. I enjoy both cameras in different situations. On rare occasions, I'll bring both, with different lenses so that I don't have to fumble about swapping lenses. I'm hoping my soon-to-be 10 year old granddaughter will grow her love of photography, and will eventually 'gift' her the 80D. Good luck to you!

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May 25, 2019 11:38:19   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
The 24-70 2.8 II and 70-200 2.8 IS II are awesome lenses and cover a wide range of shooting. They are my most used lenses. You can even throw on a 2x extender to the 70-200 for some extra “reach”.

The 85 f/1.8 is a very sharp fast focusing EF lens for a relatively low price that can be used for portraits and fast action. It is a great value if you don’t or can’t spend $2k each on the above lenses. The f/4 versions of the above are also very good and much less expensive if you don’t want the fast lenses and added weight.
The 24-70 2.8 II and 70-200 2.8 IS II are awesome ... (show quote)


I would add the 100 f/2.8 Macro to the list. The "Budget" L Lens

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May 25, 2019 11:42:51   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
picturemom wrote:
Would it be wise to own both of these cameras at the same time? Or do not waste my money?


What I did.
I shoot Nature and Sports, both indoor and outdoor.
I use the 7D MKII for outdoor sports and Nature.
I use the 6D MKII for indoor sports and indoor family gatherings, low light evening or early AM sports/nature and video.

The 6D MKII is better in low light and video.

If you have a reason that falls into the strengths of the 6D MKII, go for it. If not, like others have stated update your lenes.
My $0.02 worth to the discussion.

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May 25, 2019 12:23:17   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
Michael1079 wrote:
I'm not certain about it being wise or not. I do own a Canon 80D and also a 5D Mark IV. I enjoy both cameras in different situations. On rare occasions, I'll bring both, with different lenses so that I don't have to fumble about swapping lenses. I'm hoping my soon-to-be 10 year old granddaughter will grow her love of photography, and will eventually 'gift' her the 80D. Good luck to you!


I have the same equipment as you and usually take both cameras when I go out shooting. On my 80D I have my 100-400L II IS, and on my 5D Mk IV use my Tamron 24-70 VC G2, which with these set up's covers 99% of what I shoot. The other 1%, oh well~

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May 25, 2019 13:46:29   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Honestly, unless you make really huge prints from your images, there won't be see much.... if any... difference between a 24MP image from an 80D and a 26MP image from a 6D Mk II. You'd have to be comparing prints bigger than 13x19".

In fact, you might see bigger "improvement" in your images investing in better lenses to use on your 80D. I have no idea what lenses you're using, so can't really say... but certainly some lenses are better than others. Other things that can help included making sure you "fill the viewfinder" as much as possible with your subject, to minimize cropping. Also, look at things like your focusing techniques, focus accuracy of your lenses on your camera (use Micro Focus Adjustment feature of your camera, if need be). It might even be that "protection" filters on your lenses are making your images less sharp than they could be.

A mistake a lot of people make is evaluating their images "too large" on their computer monitor. There's nothing wrong with displaying an image "at 100%" or even bigger to do careful retouching. But it's silly to compare sharpness, high ISO noise, even focus accuracy so large. On the typical modern computer monitor, displaying an image "at 100%" is like making a print that's around five feet wide.... 40x60" in the case of a 24MP camera like 80D. Even then, a computer monitor isn't nearly as sharp as a print can be. Plus, a print that large would never be viewed as closely as you sit to your computer monitor.

Do you ever make prints that large? Most of us don't. The photographer is usually the only person who ever sees their images that large. By the time they've resized it for printing or online display it's probably more like 24 or 33%, at the largest.... and often a lot less than that. So, by all means zoom in to 100% or more while retouching out a spot in an image... but back off to more like the actual size the image will be used, before deciding if it's "sharp".
Honestly, unless you make really huge prints from ... (show quote)


Even at 13X19 I doubt the difference matters in the photos. As he said, better lenses and better technique are going to pay more dividends. Of course, you will get a wider field of view using the same lens on a full frame, but you can get wider lenses in crop only models. This matters in landscape shooting. I have a Tokina Pro 11-20mm f/2.8 crop camera lens for that purpose, much less than buying a full frame camera

Only if the better sensitivity in low light matters will you see a difference in using the camera. As long as auto-focus is working, you don't need a more sensitive camera body.

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May 25, 2019 14:02:45   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
You can also shoot the crop body in portrait orientation and shoot a series of shots in a pano and merge them together to get a nice landscape.

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May 25, 2019 16:16:23   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
picturemom wrote:
I already own a canon 80 D and I wanted to get a full frame camera for a little clearer crisp pictures

'Clearer crisp pictures' are normally due to the lens and postprocessing expertise. I doubt you'll see much difference between the 80D and 6DII bodies, assuming the same lenses.

bwa

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May 25, 2019 18:31:22   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
The 100 f/2.8L is a good lens. Also the 135mm f/2.0 and 200 L II f/2.8. And the 100-400 L IS II at similar price point of the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS III.

The other thing to understand from a lens standpoint is that the EF-S lenses are smaller and less expensive but are also not usable on the Canon FF bodies. They are crop DSLR body only for the DSLR line. They also tend to be much slower than the EF primes as they are virtually all zooms.

ggab wrote:
I would add the 100 f/2.8 Macro to the list. The "Budget" L Lens

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May 25, 2019 21:25:20   #
going south Loc: Alaska, Mazatlan, sometimes Seattle.
 
I am not a photographer, I'm trying, learning, people in the know said go FF, just go FF...
then I started comparing the 80D, (the one I settled on) and the 6DMII...

and it was like, do you shoot, this-that- and the next thing... I checked all the boxes yes, then 80D it is...

or do you shoot, this-this, and this, I checked one box, then the 6DMII is for you...

So I went 80D... very Happy..

Just my .02...

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May 25, 2019 23:53:49   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
One reasonable argument for having the two bodies is if you want to be able to use more than one lens during an outing, and you find it problematical or tedious to be frequently removing one lens and mounting another. If that is your situation, then having two bodies on hand does make some sense.

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May 26, 2019 00:20:52   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The 6D will not by itself address "a little clearer crisp pictures". You'd be better off posting some example images that demonstrate your issues, being sure to store original files directly from 80D, and asking for analysis, tips and suggestions. Tell us too about your lenses as they may not be transferable to the Canon full-frame mount.


I am with you on this. The OP clearly has an issue with image quality that she thinks would be resolved by a larger sensor. It would be more helpful to see an example of the problem before trying to judge the quality of the solution before knowing the real issue.

Sample images and a little about the conditions in which the shots are being taken would really help.

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May 26, 2019 11:26:31   #
picturemom
 
I find when I use my 15-85mm lens on the canon 80 D everything indoors has a yellow look to it. I assumed a FF 6DmarkII would not produce the yellowish look indoors? For my 80D I have all canon: 10-18 ef-s, 15-85 ef-s, 55-250 stm, and a Tamron 18-400 lens.
I run two of my businesses, so I have not had a lot of time with the Tamron 18-400 outdoors.
I just thought the 5d markII would produce nice family photos during my holiday indoor shots, inside school auditoriums ???

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May 26, 2019 11:27:43   #
picturemom
 
What Canon L lens would be good for an 80 D. I read many a comments that said do not waste your money on and L lens for a crop camera.

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