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May 25, 2019 01:40:14   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rehess wrote:
I turn my computer on every day - much better than this smart phone that forces me to backup periodically because I touched the wrong key and made a mistake that auto-correct can't fix.


Good for you. Although those same mistakes can happen on a computer. I’m a programmer by trade and I turn my work computer on every day, but many of the things I did on my home computer are easier on my phone and I can be almost anywhere.

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May 25, 2019 02:51:23   #
ChrisRL
 
So following the same logic as the OP, since you have a cell phone do your computing easier, that means the doom/death of the desktop computer must necessarily follow as well???

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May 25, 2019 05:17:20   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Totally missing the point. Maybe it’s a great cell phone camera, but it’s not gonna replace a good DSLR or MILC for many things.

I agree I missed the point that money, size and weight are no object for you but not the majority of non-pros.
My point is that I have limited budget, and I just want to take decent pictures while viewing on my 40" monitor. I don't want to travel anymore with over $2000 and over 6 lbs of gears.
My point is the P30 Pro while under $1000, it can do just as good picture quality if not better compare to at least $2000 of dslr cameras with lens. So please don't trump me with your $5000 gears.
And the trend of the gap will be widening. This is only my prediction and I don't make a living at predicting.
Of course, it 'might' not be as good as your gear at zoom 100-400, but I think the comparison is not far off, but the phone can do a lot more, besides cost and weight less.
Here, I am talking about the P30 Pro only and not just any smart phone.

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May 25, 2019 05:17:35   #
Tomonline
 
For those of us that attended weddings and other formal functions pre the cell phone -even before the smart phone that had cameras- the only camera was the professional paid photographer!! Then came disposable cameras on the table to capture the moment. So much has changed.

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May 25, 2019 05:27:22   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Diver8236 wrote:
As others have noted above I don’t believe a cell phone camera will replace DSLRs.
Also, please note that there are two FBI issued notifications in 2016 on HUAWEI network hardware stating that the 3800A router had the ability to store and forward client’s transmitted data over the Internet. The concern is real.
With that I will stay with my Nikon!

Have you noted that the US government is tapping other president's conversations of friendly nations.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying

The US government is eardroping over your US phone but not if you use a Huawei.

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May 25, 2019 08:49:59   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
tenny52 wrote:
I agree I missed the point that money, size and weight are no object for you but not the majority of non-pros.
My point is that I have limited budget, and I just want to take decent pictures while viewing on my 40" monitor. I don't want to travel anymore with over $2000 and over 6 lbs of gears.
My point is the P30 Pro while under $1000, it can do just as good picture quality if not better compare to at least $2000 of dslr cameras with lens. So please don't trump me with your $5000 gears.
And the trend of the gap will be widening. This is only my prediction and I don't make a living at predicting.
Of course, it 'might' not be as good as your gear at zoom 100-400, but I think the comparison is not far off, but the phone can do a lot more, besides cost and weight less.
Here, I am talking about the P30 Pro only and not just any smart phone.
I agree I missed the point that money, size and we... (show quote)


And I agree that if YOU can get just as good an image with a P30 Pro as you can with your D610 then you should go ahead and do that. I think most photographers would prefer to work with and get better results with the D610.

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May 25, 2019 08:59:42   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
tenny52 wrote:
Have you noted that the US government is tapping other president's conversations of friendly nations.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying

The US government is eardroping over your US phone but not if you use a Huawei.


The brand of phone has nothing to do with this. I dunno. Maybe you’re a plant from Huawei trying to drum up support for your company. That might explain your tenuous grasp of the English language.

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May 25, 2019 09:02:24   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
100 years ago, most things that we take for granted today were science fiction. 100 years from now, things we haven't even thought of yet will be in common use. That's the nature of the beast - evolution happens. And so it will be with cameras. We are unable to even imagine in our wildest dreams what will be the state of photography in 100 years or what people will be using to take pictures. Perhaps they won't be taking pictures at all, who knows?

The point is, don't worry about it. If you enjoy using a DSLR, then use a DSLR. If you enjoy using a phone camera because of its size and convenience, then use a phone camera. Neither one of them will be around in 100 years so don't fret about it.

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May 25, 2019 09:06:14   #
BebuLamar
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The brand of phone has nothing to do with this. I dunno. Maybe you’re a plant from Huawei trying to drum up support for your company. That might explain your tenuous grasp of the English language.


As I said in previous post. Thanks for his support!

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May 25, 2019 09:41:16   #
ChrisRL
 
One night near Christmas last year I was out walking my dog at night when I saw this and immediately snapped it (top picture).

Then I looked at the shot on my iPhone, ran back home, dropped the dog off, picked up my old D600 and reshot (bottom picture).

Maybe you can tell the difference, maybe not. For me, the camera was worth the effort, and the money, and the carrying gear, and the exposure calculation...

For you, maybe not.

High end iPhone
High end iPhone...
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D600
D600...
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May 25, 2019 09:48:29   #
BebuLamar
 
ChrisRL wrote:
One night near Christmas last year I was out walking my dog at night when I saw this and immediately snapped it (top picture).

Then I looked at the shot on my iPhone, ran back home, dropped the dog off, picked up my old D600 and reshot (bottom picture).

Maybe you can tell the difference, maybe not. For me, the camera was worth the effort, and the money, and the carrying gear, and the exposure calculation...

For you, maybe not.


The phone image looks like you encountered a miracle on Christmas.

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May 25, 2019 09:54:43   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
I am with you. The D600 is definitely the way to go. An iPhone is good if'n you ain't got nothin else but I prefer using a real camera. I have actually seen an iPhone being used for wedding pictures. As they say, "Whatever blows your skirt up."

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May 25, 2019 10:10:23   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Truthfully, you can buy your own cable modem and router with most Internet Service Providers, to avoid the monthly rental charge. We own ours. Best Buy and similar electronics retailers sell them.

We use a Motorola Arris Surfboard sb6121 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem and a Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 Model R7000 Smart WiFi Router on the Spectrum cable network. We have no trouble watching movies on two Samsung Smart TVs, an Xbox 360, four iPhones, an iPad, and three computers... any two at a time. Internet speeds exceed the service rating we pay for, at least 80% of the time.

Usually, when you buy a cable modem, you must register the MAC address (Media Access Control address) with the cable company. It's a unique identifier that links your cable modem to your account on your provider's network. Buy the modem locally from someone who sells only cable modems that work with local systems!

The Netgear Nighthawk is a pretty powerful dual band router (2.4GHz and 5GHz). We use both bands, depending on where we are in the house (upstairs, main floor, basement, backyard...). 2.4 GHz works with more devices and over longer distances, but 5GHz is much faster when you're closer to the router. I can sit in my tool shed taking a break from yard work and surf the web, answer emails, and watch YouTube with my iPhone. I used to wire everything with 100Mbps Ethernet, but no more. Everything is WiFi here, now.
Truthfully, you can buy your own cable modem and r... (show quote)
Yes, we have a WiFi router, that our desktop has a cable to. I don't know which Chinese company made it. My point was that most small wireless providers apparently use equipment made by Huawei, and that is what I have heard worry about.

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May 25, 2019 10:38:11   #
SilverthorneRuth Loc: Silverthorne, Colorado
 
Just saw this article posted in "Wired" RE: Huawei and their future
https://www.wired.com/story/huawei-loses-arm-chip-design/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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May 25, 2019 10:59:47   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
ChrisRL wrote:
One night near Christmas last year I was out walking my dog at night when I saw this and immediately snapped it (top picture).

Then I looked at the shot on my iPhone, ran back home, dropped the dog off, picked up my old D600 and reshot (bottom picture).

Maybe you can tell the difference, maybe not. For me, the camera was worth the effort, and the money, and the carrying gear, and the exposure calculation...

For you, maybe not.


Took this shot with my iPhone in LaBoe Germany last summer. It’s the only camera I had with me that day. One of my favorite shots of the trip.



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