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May 24, 2019 15:31:07   #
bedouin Loc: Big Bend area, Texas
 
I eould not under any circumstsnces give up my REAL camera espely aChina'sChinese brand! That company is part of China's vast spying apparatus

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May 24, 2019 16:05:46   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
dragonlady9947 wrote:
It is a smartphone so it relies on cell towers and a limited battery. Seeing as I like to go ‘where no person has gone before’, I doubt a cell phone will take over the DSLR market. On my last trip, I was out of range for 3 weeks. Not a cell tower/phone in sight.


You don’t need cell towers to take cell phone images.

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May 24, 2019 16:15:50   #
tommyII Loc: Northern Illinois
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


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May 24, 2019 16:29:55   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
Fotoartist wrote:
As soon as a cell phone camera can capture this I'll get rid of the 10lbs. of DSLR equipment that did it from 150 ft. away.


That day may come sooner than you think if not now.
What you brag about is the zooming/iso capability of your camera and pro-lens; that is what the P30 Pro best at; consider 10lbs vs 0.5 lb and $$$ vs $900.
Because of the US censorship, the price drops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zytha7T7-GE

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May 24, 2019 16:33:21   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
tenny52 wrote:
I am not a sky shooter, so I don't know what kind of gears, shooting technique and PP is required to produce such shot.
I don't have expensive Zoom gears either, my best zoom is a Tamron 200-400 5.6 on my D610. And I don't think the zoomed picture quality can match that of the P30 Pro. And my now travel gear is a Fuji x-T10 with 18-55 2.8, mainly to save my neck and back.
Now I know how a Huawei phone can be used as a spying tool and why Trump don't want you to use one to spy on him.


If you can’t get better shots with your D610 than a phone, you need to reconsider your choice of hobbies.

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May 24, 2019 16:39:23   #
tenny52 Loc: San Francisco
 
bedouin wrote:
I eould not under any circumstsnces give up my REAL camera espely aChina'sChinese brand! That company is part of China's vast spying apparatus


I agree, its camera zooming capability is a strong spying apparatus.
How did our government listen to the phone conversations of other presidents? Because they use US equipment. If they use Huawei, US government can no longer do that. That worries US.

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May 24, 2019 16:43:31   #
spaceytracey Loc: East Glacier Park, MT
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There are thousands upon thousands of working Professional Photographers around the world that make their living with DSLRs, not cell phones. To predict that "the camera age is doomed" is absurd. Same as claiming that the DSLR age is doomed.

When somebody can capture this image with a Smartphone, I might pay attention.


Amazing!!!!

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May 24, 2019 16:45:16   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
tenny52 wrote:
That day may come sooner than you think if not now.
What you brag about is the zooming/iso capability of your camera and pro-lens; that is what the P30 Pro best at; consider 10lbs vs 0.5 lb and $$$ vs $900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zytha7T7-GE


.5 lbs of crap... I produce images for photographers that sell their work ,a cell phone image is small . I don't care how many pixels it claims to have most are just interpolated mexipexels just to get you dumb cell phone users to think you really spent a thousand dollars for something . The cell phones will not produce images over 11 x 14 without artifacts....they are useless for gallery prints . You are better off buying a Sony Rx10 iii or 4 with a1 inch sensor for $1000.00 and a cheap cell phone you will have good enough images , and you can duct tape the cell phone to the camera or they probably have a mount for it already.Ha ..

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May 24, 2019 16:48:24   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
traderjohn wrote:
It's more than just families. I would disagree it is "lousy" at taking pictures. The same can be said for DSLR's as far the focus process. Next time take a look at the use of cell phones and the age group. When my daughter was married there were 150 people at the reception. The only people with DSLR's were the photographer and her two assistants. Everyone else had cell phones. I may be wrong but I do not believe this is a passing moment.
Young people have cell phones. As they get older they will have cell phones as they mature they will still have cell phones. They are not going to wake up in the middle of the night and decide thay need a DSLR or a mirrorless camera. Why should they? Who would they know that does? You may not like it but the 600-pound gorilla has entered the room.
It's more than just families. I would disagree it ... (show quote)


Jeez, it seems like at least once a week somebody rings the death knell for cameras because of smart phones. Yes, the bulk of people are only ever going to use their phone as a camera. Pretty much every wedding I’ve attended, the only DSLR was the one used by the wedding photographer. Historically the bulk of people used only instamatics and point & shoot cameras. Yes, smart phones have largely taken the place of those kinds of cameras. People really interested in photography still want DSLR’s, MICL and bridge cameras. I know several people that got interested in photography from shooting with a smartphone and upgraded to dedicated photo equipment gain more control of the process and enhance their experience.

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May 24, 2019 16:55:05   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Fredrick wrote:
Change is hard for people, including myself. Think about the capabilities of DSLR’s in early 2007, before the iPhone even existed? Think about the images you can now take with smartphones today? I can’t even imagine the capabilities of smartphones in ten years. Moore’s Law states that computing technology advances double every 18 months.

Let’s all enjoy our DSLR’s, MILC’s, point and shoots, etc. before we succumb to tomorrow’s smartphones. So ... who will be the last camera person standing?
Change is hard for people, including myself. Think... (show quote)


Me!!!!

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May 24, 2019 16:57:20   #
HatsuoHiga Loc: Hawaii
 
twice_shooter wrote:
Watch the next Olympics in 2020. The only photographers using smartphones will be the athletes.


Wrong. The next Olympics is in Tokyo Japan, and everyone uses a smartphone. I live in Hawaii, and travel twice every year to Japan, there are nothing but smartphones. In Japan time is money, and they don't have the time to be adjusting a camera.

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May 24, 2019 17:03:50   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Something to think about

https://www.diyphotography.net/ricoh-thinks-photographers-will-start-switching-from-mirrorless-back-to-dslrs-within-1-2-years/

Ricoh thinks people will move away from mirrorless once the novelty wears off, and back to DSLRs.


I didn't see anything in Ricoh's argument that was persuasive. And that stuff about the optical viewfinder being superior to the mirrorless viewfinder was absurd.

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May 24, 2019 17:04:52   #
Rational1
 
tenny52 wrote:
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?

Not true, not scary, product is not fiction (although your prognostications are fiction). Take any other product and you can make the same invalid prediction. The Lamborghini Aventador at $400,000 is a good deal in the supercar world, but I'm absolutely sure that Ford isn't going to go out of business because the Aventador exists... and I wouldn't trade my pickup truck straight across for an Aventador.

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May 24, 2019 17:18:09   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
I require a viewfinder in a camera also. This is why I updated my "purse" camera from a Canon A2500 to a Panasonic Lumix DMC ZS60. There was no viewfinder on the Canon.

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May 24, 2019 17:30:08   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Smartphones are not really telephones. They are multipurpose electronic devices with thousands of uses, among which is a telephone app. The use of the word phone is misnomer left over from the days when that was their primary purpose. The phone app is one my device's least used functions. The majority of my over 12000 posts to UHH in the last several years were composed on my smartphone, and for most of them I was using the voice feature which did not require typing.

This post was created on my Samsung Galaxy s8+ using voice only in less than a minute while I'm waiting for my breakfast at my local McDonald's. After I finish looking at posts here I will look at my email and reply to any that are necessary. I then have to update a Word document and review an Excel document for my wife, all on my "phone'. I can do all this without being tethered to my computer at home. While there are many things I use my home computer for, there are far more tasks I can do on this device anytime and anyplace. And it still is a telephone and has a reasonably decent camera app.
Smartphones are not really telephones. They are mu... (show quote)


Yes, I rarely turn on my computer at home any more. Virtually everything I used to use the computer for I can do easier on my phone or iPad. And it has a nice camera feature, but it’s not gonna replace my D500 or G9 anytime soon.

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