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May 23, 2019 23:31:43   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Some serious problems with the Huawei... due to US government controls... they are being denied Android use and their modem is also in subject to controls... best to see how this sorts out.

Dik

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May 24, 2019 00:33:19   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
n3eg wrote:
Smart phones are awkward to use as a camera. Add that to the list.


Really? Which ones?

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May 24, 2019 00:40:55   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
dragonswing wrote:
Just Googled it and there would be no way I could ever afford it

Most premium phones are in that price range and higher. When I'm ready to upgrade my $800 Samsung Galaxy s8+, in a year or so, I'm sure the replacement for it will cost $900 to $1100. Keep in mind these devices are much more than a phone or a camera. Those are two of the features I tend to use the least.

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May 24, 2019 01:47:00   #
tenny52
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There are thousands upon thousands of working Professional Photographers around the world that make their living with DSLRs, not cell phones. To predict that "the camera age is doomed" is absurd. Same as claiming that the DSLR age is doomed.

When somebody can capture this image with a Smartphone, I might pay attention.


I am not a sky shooter, so I don't know what kind of gears, shooting technique and PP is required to produce such shot.
I don't have expensive Zoom gears either, my best zoom is a Tamron 200-400 5.6 on my D610. And I don't think the zoomed picture quality can match that of the P30 Pro. And my now travel gear is a Fuji x-T10 with 18-55 2.8, mainly to save my neck and back.
Now I know how a Huawei phone can be used as a spying tool and why Trump don't want you to use one to spy on him.

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May 24, 2019 05:29:58   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There are thousands upon thousands of working Professional Photographers around the world that make their living with DSLRs, not cell phones. To predict that "the camera age is doomed" is absurd. Same as claiming that the DSLR age is doomed.

When somebody can capture this image with a Smartphone, I might pay attention.


Wow! That's one of the best images of the Milky Way that I have seen. Thanks for sharing.

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May 24, 2019 05:40:06   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
As the smartphone achieves it's results by using technology rather than optical performance, surely the same technology can be applied

to traditional DSLR etc with their superior optics to ensure traditional camera mainting their superior performance.

I am sure I am not alone in finding a liquid crystal display on a smartphone very fifficult to use under certain lighting conditions

the viewfinder is far superior and more reliable

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May 24, 2019 05:45:21   #
ELNikkor
 
I use my phone to call people

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May 24, 2019 06:00:06   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


I use a smartphone alongside my proper camera, it takes excellent photographs but can be very difficult to use in bright or sunny conditions.

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May 24, 2019 06:28:43   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


No, I don't think that will happen. Cell phones and generational demands have hurt DSLR sales. Younger people and those with young children. They are not going to lug around more than what they already have Why should they worry about what the setting of this and that is. They want to take a picture they want instant gratification. They take a picture and it is instantly shared with everyone in their contact folder. Is it perfect? Pretty close. The audience doesn't care and the objective has been accomplished. Is anyone going to nitpick the end result? No. They have better things or perhaps different things on their minds.

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May 24, 2019 06:30:56   #
twice_shooter
 
Watch the next Olympics in 2020. The only photographers using smartphones will be the athletes.

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May 24, 2019 06:45:19   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


I am 70, nothing scares me anymore.

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May 24, 2019 07:09:20   #
achesley Loc: SW Louisiana
 
I still do way too many pictures that require one handed operation of my camera.

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May 24, 2019 07:10:20   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
traderjohn wrote:
No, I don't think that will happen. Cell phones and generational demands have hurt DSLR sales. Younger people and those with young children. They are not going to lug around more than what they already have Why should they worry about what the setting of this and that is. They want to take a picture they want instant gratification. They take a picture and it is instantly shared with everyone in their contact folder. Is it perfect? Pretty close. The audience doesn't care and the objective has been accomplished. Is anyone going to nitpick the end result? No. They have better things or perhaps different things on their minds.
No, I don't think that will happen. Cell phones an... (show quote)

This may change over time, but right now a cell phone is fine for taking video of kids - so it may displace camcorder - but lousy at taking still photos because the moment passes while it focuses.

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May 24, 2019 07:15:44   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
tenny52 wrote:
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the Hwawei P30 Pro, I find that dsl camera days is numbered. At a price of less than a pro zoom lens, it can do much more.
Its technology may not be truly optical, but the effect is similar to 100 times the iso capacity of today's camera. This is only the beginning of a new era of photo technology.
At least for now, you won't need to carry 20 lbs of photo gears on a safari trip.
Hwawei is a smart phone and network company, which is under Trump's censorship heavily.
If Hwawei opens a camera subsidiary, I believe a lot major camera companies will go bankruptcy.
And we can mothball our collections of gears.
Do you find this is true, scary, or fiction?
By looking at the reviews and photo samples of the... (show quote)


I think it's funny how people keep trying to convince others that dslrs are on their way out. Might be true, might not be true. But I for one am not going to worry or care because I don't think they'll likely disappear during my lifetime.

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May 24, 2019 07:25:02   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
rehess wrote:
This may change over time, but right now a cell phone is fine for taking video of kids - so it may displace camcorder - but lousy at taking still photos because the moment passes while it focuses.


It's more than just families. I would disagree it is "lousy" at taking pictures. The same can be said for DSLR's as far the focus process. Next time take a look at the use of cell phones and the age group. When my daughter was married there were 150 people at the reception. The only people with DSLR's were the photographer and her two assistants. Everyone else had cell phones. I may be wrong but I do not believe this is a passing moment.
Young people have cell phones. As they get older they will have cell phones as they mature they will still have cell phones. They are not going to wake up in the middle of the night and decide thay need a DSLR or a mirrorless camera. Why should they? Who would they know that does? You may not like it but the 600-pound gorilla has entered the room.

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