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May 20, 2019 06:42:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two weeks. Odd. No problems, though.

I noticed that when I select Hibernate at shut down, my keyboard stays lit. I use an Azio keyboard with illuminated keys. I usually shut off power to the computer completely, so I never noticed it before. Hibernate supposedly "Turns off the PC..."

I know that Sleep maintains power to the computer because the lights inside remain lit, as well as the fan indicator lights.

Any comments?

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May 20, 2019 07:26:42   #
tschuler
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two weeks. Odd. No problems, though.

I noticed that when I select Hibernate at shut down, my keyboard stays lit. I use an Azio keyboard with illuminated keys. I usually shut off power to the computer completely, so I never noticed it before. Hibernate supposedly "Turns off the PC..."

I know that Sleep maintains power to the computer because the lights inside remain lit, as well as the fan indicator lights.

Any comments?
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two wee... (show quote)


I have Windows 10. I use 'Sleep' all the time and the keyboard lights go out every time. We know 'Sleep' maintains power because memory is not lost.

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May 20, 2019 07:48:22   #
smlek Loc: Chicago, IL
 
Sleep and hibernate are two different modes. Hibernate generally means computer is pretty much off, like when the batter is about to die. I think the computers save the RAM contents to the hard drive just before hibernating which allows power to be removed and then restore it when you wake it up.
If lights are on, its most likely sleep mode, not hibernate.

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May 20, 2019 07:51:16   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
Sleep keeps your files etc open and held in a low power mode. With a laptop it will eventually run the battery down since it is still using power. Hibernation is different in that your current state such as the programs and files you have open are actually written to a hibernation file on the hard drive. Then the computer is actually shut down with no power consumption. When you boot the system, it reads the contents of the hibernation file and restores them to the system memory.

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May 20, 2019 07:52:12   #
SqBear Loc: Kansas, (South Central)
 
Does the Azio Keyboard use any software to run the lights?
Or does one just plug it into the slot just like a normal keyboard?

I like to work in somewhat dark room and the lighted keyboard would work well for me...?

I see Amazon has an Azio for $29.99 includes shipping. Not a bad price. Any need for a more expensive key board?

Thanks
Dave

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May 20, 2019 09:12:57   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I am running Macs. And the amount of updates are staggering. I see one today.
What I believe is Apple that is known to be better defended against software attacks
is in a war with cyber attacks. A support them on that.

My theory on shutdowns is turn the computer off periodically and never run it overnight.
i gave up on PC's years ago because of frustrating experiences with updating Windows
online and the strange setups on screen. Heat is one of the killers of computers and dust etc.
My iMac 27 has been great for probably 7 years. I do everything to keep it healthy. Never
use more then 30% of internal menu. All work is on external drives. Have edited 80 videos
on it. Some with 500 gigs loaded for one video while editing.
I would really like a PC they are less expensive and a lot more power for the money.
But over the years I have given up.

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May 20, 2019 21:19:16   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two weeks. Odd. No problems, though.

I noticed that when I select Hibernate at shut down, my keyboard stays lit. I use an Azio keyboard with illuminated keys. I usually shut off power to the computer completely, so I never noticed it before. Hibernate supposedly "Turns off the PC..."

I know that Sleep maintains power to the computer because the lights inside remain lit, as well as the fan indicator lights.

Any comments?
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two wee... (show quote)


I have generally not had any trouble with Windows 10 except for one problem. The fall creator's update disabled the feature of my screen turning off after a specified time. (Although monitors have improved, I'm still concerned about an image of my icons burning in after a long enough time.). I tried everything I could find on the internet about this problem, and all proposed solutions didn't work, so I rolled Windows 10 back to the previous version. This was fine for the past several months, but Microsoft pushed out the update again without giving me a choice, and the same issue arose. This time, when I tried to roll it back, it got stuck and something got corrupted. I ended up with a computer that was toast. Again, all solutions on the internet failed, but performing a reset on the computer worked. My files were saved, but I had to reinstall much software. (I would have actually done a clean install, but there were a few files on the computer that hadn't been backed up that I didn't want to lose.) The funny thing is that I'm now running the latest version without the above mentioned problem. Go figure. I can imagine some non-computer savvy person in this situation having to pay someone to get their machine running again.

As for putting the computer to sleep or hibernate, I don't do that on my desktop. Updates happen automatically in the middle of the night. They're usually benign. If I don't let that happen, the computer starts hounding me from time to time to restart to install updates. I just want to make sure that my monitor turns off when it's supposed to.

As for your problem, I don't have a clue, but you can try a search on the internet that might explain why a peripheral device wouldn't turn off when the computer hibernates.

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May 21, 2019 06:54:47   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
On my windows 10 the only power choices I have are shut down, sleep, or restart. No hibernate seen, but it was there before windows 10!

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May 21, 2019 07:37:58   #
JADAV
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two weeks. Odd. No problems, though.

I noticed that when I select Hibernate at shut down, my keyboard stays lit. I use an Azio keyboard with illuminated keys. I usually shut off power to the computer completely, so I never noticed it before. Hibernate supposedly "Turns off the PC..."

I know that Sleep maintains power to the computer because the lights inside remain lit, as well as the fan indicator lights.

Any comments?
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two wee... (show quote)


Since an earlier Win 10 update my laptop low battery audible warning stopped working and so the laptop will shutdown at low battery levels without any notice. It would appear to fall into a "hibernate" mode so that following connection by power cable to the socket the laptop performs a bootup and even tries to recover the last webpage via the browser (not always successfully). I've scoured the Windows help and followed all the settings recommendations and have also checked Lenovo website for updates/drivers/recommendations. Irritating rather than catastrophic but it means I have to watch the tiny battery icon level like a hawk and am using the power cable much more than I used to. In answer to your query I use the sleep mode frequently but make sure that I do a closedown several times a week or the various updates mount up very quickly. I find that the bootup sequence has become quite a bit slower over time and can't say that I'm a Windows 10 fan as compared to the previous Windows Professional version that was installed on the laptop when new. I miss a lot of the extra tools that fell away with the universal Win 10 introduction.

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May 21, 2019 07:56:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SqBear wrote:
Does the Azio Keyboard use any software to run the lights?
Or does one just plug it into the slot just like a normal keyboard?

I like to work in somewhat dark room and the lighted keyboard would work well for me...?

I see Amazon has an Azio for $29.99 includes shipping. Not a bad price. Any need for a more expensive key board?

Thanks
Dave


The only lighting controls are for color - blue, purple, or red. I paid $32.62 delivered.

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May 21, 2019 08:12:44   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
Even though the computer is in sleep move the keyboard still is active to allow you to awake the computer from a key touch.

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May 21, 2019 10:12:20   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Yes, I've had same number of updates. No issues. I run Win 10 Pro 64 bit. I never set my PC to sleep or hibernate - it runs 24/7 other than an occasional restart and shut down when I'm traveling. Other than a very slight savings on electricity (I do think wasting energy is a "no, no" and generally follow careful usage practices, but I make an exception with my PC), I see no reason to set power to hibernate or sleep. I sometimes wonder why others do practice that. I do set my monitors to "sleep" after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Mark

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May 21, 2019 10:39:24   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Any comments?
Not here.

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May 21, 2019 10:50:39   #
trinhqthuan Loc: gaithersburg
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two weeks. Odd. No problems, though.

I noticed that when I select Hibernate at shut down, my keyboard stays lit. I use an Azio keyboard with illuminated keys. I usually shut off power to the computer completely, so I never noticed it before. Hibernate supposedly "Turns off the PC..."

I know that Sleep maintains power to the computer because the lights inside remain lit, as well as the fan indicator lights.

Any comments?
I've had three Win10 updates with the past two wee... (show quote)


Close your browser either Firefox, IE or Chrome, check "sleep".

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May 21, 2019 11:46:10   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
therwol wrote:
I have generally not had any trouble with Windows 10 except for one problem. The fall creator's update disabled the feature of my screen turning off after a specified time. (Although monitors have improved, I'm still concerned about an image of my icons burning in after a long enough time.). I tried everything I could find on the internet about this problem, and all proposed solutions didn't work, so I rolled Windows 10 back to the previous version. This was fine for the past several months, but Microsoft pushed out the update again without giving me a choice, and the same issue arose. This time, when I tried to roll it back, it got stuck and something got corrupted. I ended up with a computer that was toast. Again, all solutions on the internet failed, but performing a reset on the computer worked. My files were saved, but I had to reinstall much software. (I would have actually done a clean install, but there were a few files on the computer that hadn't been backed up that I didn't want to lose.) The funny thing is that I'm now running the latest version without the above mentioned problem. Go figure. I can imagine some non-computer savvy person in this situation having to pay someone to get their machine running again.

As for putting the computer to sleep or hibernate, I don't do that on my desktop. Updates happen automatically in the middle of the night. They're usually benign. If I don't let that happen, the computer starts hounding me from time to time to restart to install updates. I just want to make sure that my monitor turns off when it's supposed to.

As for your problem, I don't have a clue, but you can try a search on the internet that might explain why a peripheral device wouldn't turn off when the computer hibernates.
I have generally not had any trouble with Windows ... (show quote)


Back in the days of CRT monitors it was the phosphorous in the cathode ray tubes that burned an image on your screen, that is why Windows came up with screen savers. Fast forward to today, the flat panels don't
generate that kind of heat, the screen are LCD and are back lit by LED lights. The LED lights do not get hot, so they can not burn an image on your screen.
I run my computer and monitor 24/7 and have never had a problem, I don't even run a screen saver, ever. I am a retired computer tech. I downloaded Windows 10 from the 1st day it was available and have never
had a problem.

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