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Would 70-300 on a FF be too short for an airshow?
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May 16, 2019 18:43:18   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
planepics wrote:
I hadn't thought about the CIZ. I've used a few times either by accident or to experiment. The 2x I tried when attempting to take pics of uncooperative bald eagles just North of St. Louis and they turned out terrible...way too much graininess. Maybe the higher res a99ii would be the difference maker. Another respondent mentioned the weight of a 150-600...didn't really think about that. I've tried using a monopod before with a rented 70-400 g2, but kept ending up picking up the whole shebang and gave up trying.
I hadn't thought about the CIZ. I've used a few t... (show quote)


On less than perfect lenses I keep the CIZ to 1.7X or less. But you do need to maximize/optimize your image quality - like starting with low ISO !

The best case scenario will be hand holding - so a smaller/lighter lens works better in this respect. A bodypod is second best but can accommodate a heavier lens. IMO, monopods and tripods can be used - by SOME people - but I do NOT recommend !
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May 16, 2019 19:08:02   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
There are now two pages of suggestions, here's mine ... Rent the lens.

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May 16, 2019 19:43:35   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
planepics wrote:
I'm debating renting a 150-600 for my a77 (too long??) or biting the bullet and renting an a99ii and using my current lens. The tammy gets me to 450 equivalent on the crop a77 (if I rented both it would run slightly over $300 for a week including insurance...not sure if I want to spend that much). Any thoughts? I will be using it/them for a week-long aviation convention in July.


It somewhat depends on the type of planes and their distance from you. I use a 70 -300 mm at local shows with reasonably good results for older (slower) planes, but jets are generally too high and difficult to pan at their speed. I'm using a Canon 60D crop sensor camera.

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May 17, 2019 03:45:21   #
Mongo Loc: Western New York
 
I have gone to Oshkosh for decades. I typically use a 50 mm lens for about 80% of the pictures I take. These are usually of ground displays and people. For Air Show stills a 70 to 300 on a DX camera is fine. A longer lens can make it difficult to target and stabilize the subject. Depending upon your hand you could use a tripod. That makes it even more awkward to do action shots of the airshow using a long lens.

Shooting at Oshkosh makes one appreciate fast lenses. Also there is a lot to be said about carrying more than one camera, and switching between cameras as your need for a telephoto versus a normal angle camera happens.

If there is a particular airshow act that you want to capture, try to watch the airshow the day before Oh, so that you can plan your shots. Where you are on the field can make a big difference, and well show Center it's often favored, there could be advantages of being off axis.

Finally, an example of using a 50 mm lens. I have a SR-71 i shot while the chute was deploying. I was opposite the Cloud 9 hanger. The aircraft and chute are nearly full frame. If I was using a 70-300 i would have lost the shot.

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May 17, 2019 04:15:46   #
Nigel7 Loc: Worcestershire. UK.
 
I would advise the 150-600. I have got good results with my EOS 70D and Canon 70-300L IS but have just purchased the Tamron 150-600 G2 for this year's Air Tattoo at Fairford. This is said to be the best airshow in the world and I attend most years but I've seen other's photos with a 150-600 and the extra reach makes a huge difference.
You may have gathered that I'm from the UK.
Whatever you decide I hope you get some great photos.

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May 17, 2019 21:34:25   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
I was looking at some of my pics on the computer from Oshkosh and noticed that the lengths are all over the place...some 150s fill the screen and some 300s are specks of dust. Just googled the tammy 150-600 g2 and saw that it weights 70.9 oz (almost 4 1/2 lbs). Sounds heavy for a week of 4 hr airshows, usually handholding. I think I'll check out a local camera shop and see if they have one I can swing around for a while and see if it's worth the potential aches and pains. I could use CIZ on the a77 and see how it works on the short end. Here's one I took SOOC from last year just for reference.

1/1600 sec. f/4.5 140mm (210 eq ff)
1/1600 sec. f/4.5 140mm (210 eq ff)...
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May 17, 2019 21:46:45   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
If I'm in the front seat flying, I use a goPro, if I'm in back a wide angel & FF is best.

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May 18, 2019 04:25:19   #
Pistnbroke Loc: UK
 
Buy a lens on ebay and sell it after or trade it to MPB...……...or just get one on 14 day trial

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May 18, 2019 08:39:28   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
MPB?

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May 18, 2019 08:47:11   #
Pistnbroke Loc: UK
 
MPB uk and US purchaser of used gear

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