So, What's Up With Canon?
May 9, 2019 21:02:29 #
rb61
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
Blurryeyed wrote:
Canon just announced the upcoming release of an 85mm f/1.2 RF lens for their Mirrorless system. The lens costs a whopping $2700 and the recommended accessory is a $35 lens hood. Really? I wonder if they will soon stop sending lens hoods with their L series lenses, the hoods for their big whites start at $500 which there can be no justification for.
Olympus is doing the same thing with its lenses minus hoods, except for the high-end PRO lenses.
May 9, 2019 21:04:26 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
No, I'm missing it but I will take your word for it, I never have been a word smith, at least your post allowed me to come back with my 2 cents worth.
Eventually, maybe he'll give up trying to be special.
May 9, 2019 21:05:07 #
rb61 wrote:
Olympus is doing the same thing with its lenses minus hoods, except for the high-end PRO lenses.
Canon has always done that but this is an L series lens for the R system, the good news is that my original post was wrong, the hood is included, the ad that I received in my email is posted in this thread, Adorama was advertising the hood in the same ad with the lens which lead me to mistakenly believe that Canon was selling the two separately but that is not the case.
May 9, 2019 21:09:41 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Eventually, maybe he'll give up trying to be special.
I have never really been on the same threads as him so I don't know him or how he generally presents himself, but I did not think that he should have popped off like that, I doubt he has any better gear than I have and he rarely posts images. I may be a jerk in the Attic (political) but I generally try to be on my best behavior out in the photography side of the forums.
May 9, 2019 21:15:07 #
khorinek wrote:
When I buy a new lens, I buy a third party hood for $10 on ebay and use it and keep the original hood in the plastic bag it came in. I find that IF you sell a lens, it will sell quicker and for more $$$ if the hood and lens caps are in good shape. The one thing that gets beat up the most is the hood.
I totally agree. The 3rd party aftermarket compatible hoods work just fine at a fraction of the Canon cost.
May 9, 2019 22:12:21 #
When you pay $2700 for a lens, it should come with a hood, caps and a KISS.
May 9, 2019 22:16:09 #
14kphotog wrote:
When you pay $2700 for a lens, it should come with a hood, caps and a KISS.
It does…. My mistake.
May 9, 2019 22:30:42 #
The cost keeps climbing services are less and the cost become extravagant Do You remember buying a Canon Camera. And they offered free tutorials. Or you wanted to get a New lens. You could go to canon site and learn. Then decide. A new lens came with a hood and maybe some extra. And the prices were realistic. Yes there always were a line with some much better glass you would purchase if you Needed to make that Ching Now they have cut back on many of the extras and charging much more for maybe the same quality product. I understand profit. That golden egg But now they are starting to kill their golden goose. The Consumer You and Me
May 9, 2019 22:53:46 #
patrick M wrote:
The cost keeps climbing services are less and the... (show quote)
This comment doesn't make a lot of sense ...
Let's consider Canon's original EOS 1D, a 4MP sensor (1.3 crop) inside a professional body that could capture 8 frames a second in JPEG. It cost around $5000, about the same as the EOS 1v film body it was based on and about the same $5000 to $6000 all 1-Series EOS bodies have been priced since 1998.
Now in 2019, Canon has four entry-level Rebel bodies, ranging from a 18MP 4000D thru a 24MP Rebel 800D at $650 (body only), a camera that can shoot at 6 fps, with 45 AF points, including the ability to auto-focus at f/8.
I'm not saying $700 is cheap (w/ EFS 18-55), but it certainly buys a lot of camera capability, more than has ever been available from Canon at this price.
May 9, 2019 23:20:51 #
patrick M wrote:
The cost keeps climbing services are less and the... (show quote)
Today you can buy for $1,000 a DSLR with a lens or two that performs better than anything you could buy at any price 15 years ago. If you want Champaign instead of Beer, you have to earn a little more. But there is nothing wrong with a good beer.
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May 9, 2019 23:21:36 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
I think I did.... sorry, he really got my feathers up with that post, kinda uncalled for and my response to you was probably no better than his post....
He is right though, I am not going to spend $2700 on a 85mm prime, I already have the original EF 85/1.2 and the Sig 105.... there is no way that lens is that much better than the Sigma.
He is right though, I am not going to spend $2700 on a 85mm prime, I already have the original EF 85/1.2 and the Sig 105.... there is no way that lens is that much better than the Sigma.
billnikon is like this on a regular basis and he seems to act up like a child when it isn't revolving around Nikon. A little while ago, someone was asking about the 7DIII and went into a rage about rumors being pathetic and unreliable. I wasn't exactly Mr. Congeniality but others responded in that thread as well mentioning his undesirable behavior. Sorry Blurry....he has issues....
May 10, 2019 00:10:08 #
Canon has a Reputation for Excellence.
I don't Argue this Debate about an $2700.00 Expensive Lens, or a Freaking $900.00 Lens Hood, I Can Collect Quality Matchbox Cars for a Dollar at Target or Wal-Mart, & they don't Sell for High Bucks, the Same with Hot Wheels.
Nikon is the Same, so is Olympus, & Sony with its High Price Lenses, because People want Quality Images, the Damn Camera Phones are Taking Over with their High End Quality on its A-List Camera Phones.
The Pros want the Best, Not the Lesser Price Canon Lens or other Brands, the A-Listers that Bring Out the Best Quality they'll Tell you that cause they Need the Best Lenses & Cameras for their Work.
What it is... is What it is.
74images
I don't Argue this Debate about an $2700.00 Expensive Lens, or a Freaking $900.00 Lens Hood, I Can Collect Quality Matchbox Cars for a Dollar at Target or Wal-Mart, & they don't Sell for High Bucks, the Same with Hot Wheels.
Nikon is the Same, so is Olympus, & Sony with its High Price Lenses, because People want Quality Images, the Damn Camera Phones are Taking Over with their High End Quality on its A-List Camera Phones.
The Pros want the Best, Not the Lesser Price Canon Lens or other Brands, the A-Listers that Bring Out the Best Quality they'll Tell you that cause they Need the Best Lenses & Cameras for their Work.
What it is... is What it is.
74images
May 10, 2019 00:27:25 #
May 10, 2019 08:01:38 #
Just another reason I'm having difficulty with Canon support after the sale. When I complain to Canon about how their support forum treated me, I was banned by the forum. Now I can't get any support for any of my gear "IF" something goes wrong. Granted I do have extended warranties on the camera & lens. But the M6 was the only camera I wanted now I have to deal with trying to locate more lenses off Canons site. There's no way I'd spend that kind of money on a lens.
May 10, 2019 08:08:14 #
To CHG_CANON and everyone else for that matters: You raise a solid point that I must agree with. I have been shooting with my Canon AE-1 for years. It was a great machine. (Right now, I expect a check in the mail from Canon USA.) I moved on and upwards as my wallet and my wife will allow. I'm not a professional just a hobbyist. So if I made a living as a professional photographer I can see such an investment. So I will probably not make that plunge. I'm sorry Canon USA. I might try renting that lens for an occasion, but I won't be buying one any time soon. To rent it would probably cost a premium price too. Supply and Demand will always fuel the profit margin.
As long as the top Camera manufacturers take the responsibility of producing quality imaging equipment, we as the consumers will make photography a way of doing something we love.
As long as the top Camera manufacturers take the responsibility of producing quality imaging equipment, we as the consumers will make photography a way of doing something we love.
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