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May 9, 2019 19:11:37   #
btbg
 
ClarkG wrote:
I still swear by Affinity Photo! A one time $50 and it is as good or better than PS! If you don’t believe me, download the FREE trial. It’s awesome! 👍


I did download and try the free trial of Affinity Photo. I tried it and then removed it from my computer. It doesn't do an awful lot of what photoshop does.

Glad you like it, but it isn't as good or better than photoshop.

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May 9, 2019 19:14:07   #
btbg
 
ta5567 wrote:
The trolls already started. For me the key is the statement that if you stop paying the subscription you forfeit the ability to edit, he said almost blackmail, I say it is blackmail.

You can purchase what you like but as long as they blackmail to keep their product, I will not use it.


You can edit your photos just fine after you get rid of photoshop. There are countless other raw photo converters and editors and other programs will open and edit both tiffs and jpegs.

So there is absolutely no problem editing photos that you edited in photoshop in other programs. Just don't save them as PSD files and you will be fine.

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May 9, 2019 19:14:48   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
btbg wrote:
I did download and try the free trial of Affinity Photo. I tried it and then removed it from my computer. It doesn't do an awful lot of what photoshop does.

Glad you like it, but it isn't as good or better than photoshop.


...yah, in order to give a good assessment, one must be *good* at both softwares, seems to me he needs to work in Photoshop for awhile (like, a few years!) before passing judgement.

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May 9, 2019 20:43:57   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Being different is not the same as being a swan

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May 9, 2019 20:50:36   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
Looks like Adobe users are either fan boys or trolls if non users disagree with them. I do photo retouching and can tell you that Photoshop updates have provided significant improvements in content aware, for example

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May 9, 2019 21:24:48   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
I'm happy with it and $10 a month is about 1/4 of what I spend for a day of golf. I used Autodesk products for years in my business. I believe Civil 3D, the engineering product, was about $7500 to buy plus a $700/year subscription to keep it up to date. Talk about a huge overgrown piece of software. Omigawd. Photoshop is very similar to AutoCAD in that respect. If I could pick up a working copy of AutoCAD with the Civil 3D part for $10 a month I might go back to work doing some mapping on the side. As it is, I'd have to work a whole lot more than I want to just to pay for the tools of the trade if you figure out how much your time is worth then figure in the amount of time it would take to pay for the software.

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May 9, 2019 21:40:49   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
sodapop wrote:
Looks like Adobe users are either fan boys or trolls if non users disagree with them. I do photo retouching and can tell you that Photoshop updates have provided significant improvements in content aware, for example


*I* don't give a flying fook if somebody disagrees with me. But I guess I'm still a "fan boy" or a "troll." Uh, and, yes, PS is pretty cool in the retouching realm. This is a funny thread!

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May 9, 2019 23:09:56   #
Cheese
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
And now we return you to our regular programming.



I thought this was our regular programming!!

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May 9, 2019 23:11:14   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
digit-up wrote:
Clever!! NOT !!!AND RUDE


Funny? I thought it cute. I hope it wasn’t taken in rudeness.

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May 10, 2019 01:31:04   #
Beenthere
 
f8lee wrote:
Well, I've got to check out of this getting-more-ridiculous-by-the-minute thread...too many of you are too willfully stubborn or else stupid to understand the real reason for Adobe's (and other software companies) moving to subscription based revenues.

You paid for the license to use PS4 and still run it? Great, more power to you, but when Microsoft or Apple moves to a version of thier OS that does not support your product and the system you have is too old to maintain, you will be forced into doing something. Do what you want, but my hope is to give you a cursory understanding of what is going on.
Well, I've got to check out of this getting-more-r... (show quote)


So you're saying just give in to the slave master, eh?

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May 10, 2019 01:36:21   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Beenthere wrote:
So you're saying just give in to the slave master, eh?


Yup...if you want to use the best tools around. Man, what's wrong with trying to improve a craft? Renting tools or not? <shrug>

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May 10, 2019 06:11:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Subscribe to it if you need it or leave it if you dare

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May 10, 2019 06:30:30   #
Jsykes
 
Shellback wrote:
Then don't - simple to stop - canx the subscription and go on to something else...


So is Elements a good option and doesn't impact the Catalogs one created?

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May 10, 2019 10:00:33   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Just one correction of a misstatement above.

You do not need an active Internet connection to use Photoshop or Lightroom - the software is entirely resident on your computer. If you haven't gone online in a couple of months, you may need to briefly connect to verify that your account and payments are current. If you pay the whole year in advance, I have been told this need goes away as well. You do need to connect to get the latest updates, which seems to download very fast.

I don't use the cloud storage much, so if the price goes up significantly I will reconsider my options. But I have no reason to drop arguably the best post processing software for reasons of either finances or principles. Good stuff, great support, and incredible forums. I realize other have different rationales, so I don't care what they choose.

I do think objection to the principle of subscription software is about as unreasoned as aversion to subscription television or any other service. It makes so much sense for the developers/producers that, except for a few holdouts and shareware/freeware idealists, it's going to be the only way to go by the next generation.

Andy

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May 10, 2019 10:05:13   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Free spirits don't subscribe

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