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May 3, 2019 21:40:20   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Remember the R and RP are 100% compatible with ALL your EF and EFs lenses. The 6D II will not use EFs lenses.
Also the control adapter adds RF mount enhancements to ALL your EF and EFs lenses and it is reported that speed of focus of your EF and EFs lenses is improved (That is a real feat) on the R and RP bodies.
I would not consider the 6DII if I were going FF in Canon at this point. The R and RP are considerable steps up.


My only issue is that the R and RP are first gen Canon full frame mirrorless.
I hate using true first gen anything.

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May 3, 2019 21:45:47   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
ggab wrote:
My only issue is that the R and RP are first gen Canon full frame mirrorless.
I hate using true first gen anything.


Yes, but as you know and many complain about the sensors are NOT first gen.
Wait a few months as it looks like the second round of R cameras are coming out.
That is what I am doing as well.
I do not want to invest in the EF mount and have no problem with changing as unlike Nikon which most your lenses lose operability, ALL your EF and EFs lenses are native working with 100% compatibility and actually enhanced rather than degraded as with Nikon.

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May 3, 2019 22:13:37   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
ggab wrote:
My only issue is that the R and RP are first gen Canon full frame mirrorless.
I hate using true first gen anything.


What about them do you feel is first gen that is going to cause issues? The sensors are essentially the same as the 6DII for the RP and the 5DIV for the R. They have been modified slightly for mirrorless use but they are not by any means some new, untried sensors. The biggest differences I can see between the sensors of my 5DIV and R are that the R's auto focus is more accurate and consistent and it can focus at f/11. I don't know of any other camera in the Canon line that can do that.
As far as the mirrorless format, none of that is new to Canon's engineers. They have been making them for years. Canon has taken existing technologies and combined them into two very solid cameras. My EF lenses work better on my R then on my 5DIV and the RF 24-105 is superb.
I have also noticed that RAW images from the R are noticeably more vibrant and require less PP then the RAW images from my 5DIV. I have no idea why that is but I assume that the sensor and Digic 8 processor make the difference.
Don't buy either if you are not comfortable, but, from my experience with the R I feel your next gen worries are overblown.

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May 4, 2019 04:08:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LFingar wrote:
What about them do you feel is first gen that is going to cause issues? The sensors are essentially the same as the 6DII for the RP and the 5DIV for the R. They have been modified slightly for mirrorless use but they are not by any means some new, untried sensors. The biggest differences I can see between the sensors of my 5DIV and R are that the R's auto focus is more accurate and consistent and it can focus at f/11. I don't know of any other camera in the Canon line that can do that.
As far as the mirrorless format, none of that is new to Canon's engineers. They have been making them for years. Canon has taken existing technologies and combined them into two very solid cameras. My EF lenses work better on my R then on my 5DIV and the RF 24-105 is superb.
I have also noticed that RAW images from the R are noticeably more vibrant and require less PP then the RAW images from my 5DIV. I have no idea why that is but I assume that the sensor and Digic 8 processor make the difference.
Don't buy either if you are not comfortable, but, from my experience with the R I feel your next gen worries are overblown.
What about them do you feel is first gen that is g... (show quote)



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May 4, 2019 04:45:35   #
Haydon
 
ggab wrote:
This is a question, since I do not use Flash too often.
"6D Mark II... top shutter speed 1/4000, flash sync 1/180.
80D... top shutter speed 1/8000, flash sync 1/250."

Since the Strobe of the Flash stops movement, what is the difference between 1/180 and 1/250?
Thanks
George


The shutter speed in a studio environment will not be the deciding factor in the freezing of movement. The shutter speed will be a factor for ambient light only. I regularly shoot at 1/160 second in the studio and easily freeze action where the flash is the only source of light.

The top shutter speed of 1/4000 second can come into play when shooting high speed sync using very wide apertures under daylight conditions. If you find that limitation a common way of combating the effect would be using an ND filter effectively reducing the amount of light. You may encounter that limitation depending on the sun's intensity during the day using apertures below F2.8.

This is more of a specialized technique isolating your subject and minimizing your DOF. High speed sync reduces the flash power significantly by pulsing the light during the image being made instead of a single burst. It requires the light source (flash/monolight) in outdoor conditions to be significantly closer to the subject. More powerful lights are required under these circumstances. A singlular speedlight will not handle these type of conditions well.

This link should give you insight on high speed sync.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppwPBfYMKpo

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May 4, 2019 07:07:13   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
Haydon wrote:
The shutter speed in a studio environment will not be the deciding factor in the freezing of movement. The shutter speed will be a factor for ambient light only. I regularly shoot at 1/160 second in the studio and easily freeze action where the flash is the only source of light.

The top shutter speed of 1/4000 second can come into play when shooting high speed sync using very wide apertures under daylight conditions. If you find that limitation a common way of combating the effect would be using an ND filter effectively reducing the amount of light. You may encounter that limitation depending on the sun's intensity during the day using apertures below F2.8.

This is more of a specialized technique isolating your subject and minimizing your DOF. High speed sync reduces the flash power significantly by pulsing the light during the image being made instead of a single burst. It requires the light source (flash/monolight) in outdoor conditions to be significantly closer to the subject. More powerful lights are required under these circumstances. A singlular speedlight will not handle these type of conditions well.

This link should give you insight on high speed sync.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppwPBfYMKpo
The shutter speed in a studio environment will not... (show quote)


Thank you.
George

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May 4, 2019 18:42:59   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
I have the 6DmarkII and I love it I use it for High school Basketball and Soccer and Football

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May 5, 2019 13:59:27   #
willaim Loc: Sunny Southern California
 
I want to thank all those UHH'ers who replied to my question about the EOS 6D Mark II. A lot of useful information. I did check out the camera and was shocked that my main lens, Tamron 18-400 is for a cropped sensor camera. That threw me for a loop. So, I'll just stick with my 80D in the meantime. I have no problems with it. I'll just keep on shooting.

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Mar 2, 2022 14:34:00   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
willaim wrote:
Just wondering if any of the UHH'ers, and I'm sure there are, have the 6D MarkII and how do they like it? I have the 80D which is probably a step below the 6D and am thinking about a full frame sensor camera. Not sure about the EOS R,yet, but since I have lenses and equipment for the EOS series, I'll stay with that and not another system. Of cause I'll check out the camera before I decide, but is it worth it? Appreciate any thoughts, Yea or Ney.

I was like you looking at both camera I brought the 80D got it and changed my mind. did not open the box call them back asked if I could send it back to them and order the 6DmarkII and they said sure was nice. just a feeling I had and glad I did I Love the 6D great Camera DelRae

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