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Apr 30, 2019 12:42:52   #
dborengasser
 
Thanks Linda - Haven't been there but I've come to expect helpful information From Maine

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Apr 30, 2019 12:48:45   #
Wags Loc: Mequon, WI
 
Jonathan wrote:
I have Canon's DPP, GIMP 2 and a few other programs but want to learn and use Photoshop. (So I am told, anyway!). There are numerous online courses and a few at the community collage. Which version of Photoshop should I purchase and what do you recommend for learning in addition to trial and error? Thank you all in advance.


There is a Youtube Channel that I have just found that has been very helpful in getting me started in understanding Photoshop: Photos in Color.

Start with "(Part 1) What is Photoshop" and then "(Part 2) Photoshop Quickstart Guide.) It has over 300,000 subscribers. You might want to give that a try>

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Apr 30, 2019 13:10:58   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I believe the OP has Photoshop and is asking for advice on how and what to learn. Actually pirated CS6 is available on torrents for free if people know how to get them and safely install them. Pirated CS6 is what made Adobe a world leader in software.

I do know what I'm missing with layers because I took the time to learn them and decided I didn't need to use them.

My method of post processing will work for anyone who uses Photoshop. I think the idea that you have to use layers is what keeps many people away from Photoshop.

Years ago I learned to do a lot of the mechanical work on my cars. I bought the shop manuals, I scoured the junk yard for parts and did my own repairs. I really learned a lot about cars and saved a lot of money, but I never told anyone they didn't know what they were missing by not doing that.

lesdmd wrote:
I think that Photoshop is available now only through subscription. That would mean an investment of $120 (per year) for the person who posted to be able to use the software. Assuming he wants Photoshop, and not one of the less expensive alternatives, and that he can no longer get CS6 on disk, your method of post processing will not work for him.

I think the key to what you want is quick efficiency (" I rarely spend more than a few minutes post processing a picture") and I would never criticize that. Personally, I rarely get the end result I see in my head without fine tuning many of the tools that you use. If I did not use layers I would have to save numerous versions of the original file, and come back to them many before I was finished. There are many other techniques, other than removing objects, which incidentally you can do on a single layer), that come with mastery of the complex software. You have to enjoy sitting by the computer to learn and enjoy them. Not for everybody On the other hand, you will never know what you are missing.
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Apr 30, 2019 14:13:23   #
steveg48
 
Gene51 wrote:
Learning Photoshop is like learning a new foreign language.

I suggest total immersion. Join a local photo club. There will be advanced shooters willing to work with the less advanced.

I suggest Anthony Morganti, Phlearn and others are free and helpful.

Most of challenge in learning Photoshop is learning what can be done in Photoshop. And then finding out that there are at least 15 ways to achieve a result, each with their nuances. You are embarking on a process - it will take a while. I have been using Photoshop since the mid-90's when they made it available for Windows. I still only know about 30% of what it can do. I use it for general image enhancement, fashion-type retouching and image repair and restoration. Otherwise, I could probably get away with knowing only 10% of what it can do.
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Phlearn is good but not free. It is a subscription service. They do have free videos on YouTube

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Apr 30, 2019 14:54:32   #
PhotosBySteve
 
Gene51 wrote:
Learning Photoshop is like learning a new foreign language.

I suggest total immersion. Join a local photo club. There will be advanced shooters willing to work with the less advanced.

I suggest Anthony Morganti, Phlearn and others are free and helpful.

Most of challenge in learning Photoshop is learning what can be done in Photoshop. And then finding out that there are at least 15 ways to achieve a result, each with their nuances. You are embarking on a process - it will take a while. I have been using Photoshop since the mid-90's when they made it available for Windows. I still only know about 30% of what it can do. I use it for general image enhancement, fashion-type retouching and image repair and restoration. Otherwise, I could probably get away with knowing only 10% of what it can do.
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Apr 30, 2019 15:44:15   #
Jonathan
 
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library doesn't have access to Lynda.com so I will take it slowly as suggested. Not to belabor the issue but I notice that courses in GIMP are offered. I have GIMP but could not teach myself very well. Canon DPP - I was able to learn. Does starting over with GIMP make sense?

The Goal: Getting as proficient digitally (including using my Canon Pro 100 "darkroom developer") as I was with 40+ years in the darkroom--actually I'd be happy to be as proficient as I was in my home darkroom and working in a pro lab for a couple of years Circa 1972- 74. So the question is where to devote the time, not a money question: Should I learn Photoshop?

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Apr 30, 2019 16:28:23   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Only if you want to do more advanced work and use layers in my opinion. Otherwise image management and most adjustments can be done in Lightroom in my experience.

Jonathan wrote:
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library doesn't have access to Lynda.com so I will take it slowly as suggested. Not to belabor the issue but I notice that courses in GIMP are offered. I have GIMP but could not teach myself very well. Canon DPP - I was able to learn. Does starting over with GIMP make sense?

The Goal: Getting as proficient digitally (including using my Canon Pro 100 "darkroom developer") as I was with 40+ years in the darkroom--actually I'd be happy to be as proficient as I was in my home darkroom and working in a pro lab for a couple of years Circa 1972- 74. So the question is where to devote the time, not a money question: Should I learn Photoshop?
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library does... (show quote)

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Apr 30, 2019 17:01:44   #
jcryan Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
 
Jonathan wrote:
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library doesn't have access to Lynda.com so I will take it slowly as suggested. Not to belabor the issue but I notice that courses in GIMP are offered. I have GIMP but could not teach myself very well. Canon DPP - I was able to learn. Does starting over with GIMP make sense?

The Goal: Getting as proficient digitally (including using my Canon Pro 100 "darkroom developer") as I was with 40+ years in the darkroom--actually I'd be happy to be as proficient as I was in my home darkroom and working in a pro lab for a couple of years Circa 1972- 74. So the question is where to devote the time, not a money question: Should I learn Photoshop?
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library does... (show quote)


If you haven't entirely given up on GIMP there are some excellent YouTube videos out there. One that stands out is the Davies Media Design channel, but there are many others. Find one that best matches your own learning style. My reason for this suggestion is that you are already part way up the learning curve. You would be essentially starting back at zero including unlearning the things you already do well.

I would recommend looking for tutorials that focus on basic workflows for different situations, then move on to the particular details of the specific modules you use most. Set small goals and celebrate you successes!

Best of luck!
JC

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Apr 30, 2019 17:35:39   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Take the community college course, for two reasons. First they will cover the basics, so you don't have to sort out the basics from all the other tutorials. Having the basics, you can to move on to tutorials AS YOU NEED them. Express or record what you want. If you do not know how to emphasize or "fix" or create something you need for your photo, goggle that. You will thus build up a set of useful tools.

The second reason is that, especially starting, having 20 other people learning, having problems, and helping each other is a great way for us humans to learn, likely the quickest and most productive.

Good luck!

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Apr 30, 2019 17:36:20   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Besides previously mentioned Lynda.Com and Morganti's YouTube video, another is CreativeLive.Com. Not inexpensive but once you register at the website, sales are frequent.

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Apr 30, 2019 18:01:50   #
BillGroves
 
My experience is similar to yours. My wife and I are our churches photographers. We sit in the front row and photograph the service. We give the most attention to the pastor and all of the members who take an active part in the service. We also photograph special events like the church's annual Trunk Or Treat program, and the different things our volunteers do to help people in need in our community.

We take a lot of photographs and I want them to be pleasing. I don't have time to do a lot of photo shopping so I usually crop as needed, auto contrast, auto color correcting, sharpening, auto haze reduction, and then tweak the lighting, and color settings. This usually less than five minutes per photo. I also have never used layers.

The lighting in our church is not very bright and there is a huge stained glass window behind the alter so many of pour photos are back lighted. Using the auto haze reduction feature is a big help in producing better images in that situation.

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Apr 30, 2019 18:03:35   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Jonathan wrote:
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library doesn't have access to Lynda.com so I will take it slowly as suggested. Not to belabor the issue but I notice that courses in GIMP are offered. I have GIMP but could not teach myself very well. Canon DPP - I was able to learn. Does starting over with GIMP make sense?

The Goal: Getting as proficient digitally (including using my Canon Pro 100 "darkroom developer") as I was with 40+ years in the darkroom--actually I'd be happy to be as proficient as I was in my home darkroom and working in a pro lab for a couple of years Circa 1972- 74. So the question is where to devote the time, not a money question: Should I learn Photoshop?
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library does... (show quote)


Yes, subscribe to Photoshop. How did you (and I) learn wet photography? Buy Photoshop and do that. After 25 years of darkroom, I started with Photoshop. Can do everything there I did in a darkroom, only faster. Can do much more. (No one can tell you what you will want to do. Get Photoshop, because it is the tool with the most potential.)

I have seen literally hundreds of young photographers take off in Photoshop. (At the college where I taught, they were required to take a darkroom course as a prerequisite for digital.)

With your background, the learning curve will not be as steep. But, boy, will you have a grand time!

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Apr 30, 2019 18:52:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Jonathan wrote:
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library doesn't have access to Lynda.com so I will take it slowly as suggested. Not to belabor the issue but I notice that courses in GIMP are offered. I have GIMP but could not teach myself very well. Canon DPP - I was able to learn. Does starting over with GIMP make sense?

The Goal: Getting as proficient digitally (including using my Canon Pro 100 "darkroom developer") as I was with 40+ years in the darkroom--actually I'd be happy to be as proficient as I was in my home darkroom and working in a pro lab for a couple of years Circa 1972- 74. So the question is where to devote the time, not a money question: Should I learn Photoshop?
ALL: Thanks so much for the guidance. Library does... (show quote)


Ignoring the idea to obtain pirated CS6 software, seeking to use / learn PS involves a new $10 / month subscription. Honestly, if you've already started with GIMP and you've found free training available and useful, why not continue there? The power and complexity of GIMP will be similar to beginning to learn and use PhotoShop and / or Lightroom.

Do you want to learn and use the market-leading, subscription based digital editing software? Learning / mastering GIMP or the Adobe software is a worthwhile effort for your photography. As the market leader, Adobe has numerous free-video instruction from their site. Beyond the training section of the Adobe site, utube is widely supplied with both free and fee-based video training, where many people have created businesses based on developing video-based training for the Adobe products. A 5- to 3-second advertisement hopefully isn't too high of a 'cost' to access the free videos. The GIMP videos are nearly as extensive on utube. When the presentation goes to fast, just pause and back-up 30-seconds or whatever and repeat to 'slow' the topic down.

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Apr 30, 2019 20:37:05   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
jerryc41 wrote:
lynda.com has very good instruction for all areas of photography. You get a period of time for free, and then it's $25(?)/month. Also, for free - https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/tutorials.html
and https://www.jkost.com/


Lynda is free via many community libraries

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Apr 30, 2019 21:29:35   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Adobe Photography Plan (Photoshop and Lightroom) $9.99/month


Photoshop CC and Lightroom come in a single package for 9.99 a month. You always have the latest and greatest and you can store all your pictures on your own hard drive. No need to keep it in the cloud unless you want to. Nothing to be afraid of. Read the fine print though. I believe there is a minimum term of one year unless they changed it. I have used it for a couple of years and it's fine.

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