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Apr 24, 2019 01:25:11   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Inasmuch as the Internet was off most of the day yesterday (not an unusual occurrence in this country), I decided to do further evaluation of the Topaz DeNoise AI software – just now upgraded to Version 1.0.3 (it seems, an upgrade a day!). In order to achieve reasonably reliable results, I took (Canon G16) 42 pictures, RAW plus JPG, varying subject matter, lighting (natural) and ISO, with the latter from 80 to 12800.

It appears that – with exceptions to be detailed later – there were no definitive patterns to be observed, the actions of the software being quite unpredictable and random! Some results really were excellent in totally removing noise from quite noisy pictures, but others actually introduced a LOT of noise into pictures which had started with very little, SOOC. This pattern was the same for both the RAW and JPG versions. No software other that the Topaz was used in my processing.

In general, using the Topaz software resulted in the pictures being darker than the original, some by a lot! The effectiveness of the software – when successful in removing or lessening noise – was by far greatest on dark subject matter as opposed to light (especially white, where sometimes much noise was added when there was none in the original!) Removal of noise seemed to be most effective in the pictures with the most noise. In all processed pictures the color was changed to a greater or lesser degree!!!

In summation, I would say that the Topaz DeNoise AI software is based on a seemingly good idea, but nowhere near sufficiently consistent or reliable enough for purchase and still pretty slow in some of its actions, though getting better in that regard. When one starts to process a picture, there is no way of predicting whether the end result will be better or worse than the original!!!

Loren – Baguio City

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Apr 24, 2019 04:08:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rlv567 wrote:
Inasmuch as the Internet was off most of the day yesterday (not an unusual occurrence in this country), I decided to do further evaluation of the Topaz DeNoise AI software – just now upgraded to Version 1.0.3 (it seems, an upgrade a day!). In order to achieve reasonably reliable results, I took (Canon G16) 42 pictures, RAW plus JPG, varying subject matter, lighting (natural) and ISO, with the latter from 80 to 12800.

It appears that – with exceptions to be detailed later – there were no definitive patterns to be observed, the actions of the software being quite unpredictable and random! Some results really were excellent in totally removing noise from quite noisy pictures, but others actually introduced a LOT of noise into pictures which had started with very little, SOOC. This pattern was the same for both the RAW and JPG versions. No software other that the Topaz was used in my processing.

In general, using the Topaz software resulted in the pictures being darker than the original, some by a lot! The effectiveness of the software – when successful in removing or lessening noise – was by far greatest on dark subject matter as opposed to light (especially white, where sometimes much noise was added when there was none in the original!) Removal of noise seemed to be most effective in the pictures with the most noise. In all processed pictures the color was changed to a greater or lesser degree!!!

In summation, I would say that the Topaz DeNoise AI software is based on a seemingly good idea, but nowhere near sufficiently consistent or reliable enough for purchase and still pretty slow in some of its actions, though getting better in that regard. When one starts to process a picture, there is no way of predicting whether the end result will be better or worse than the original!!!

Loren – Baguio City
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So for me anyway no reason to change my work flow. That is RAW 14-bit from 14 to 24 MP cameras; to ACR 16-bit, 300ppi, basic processing; Ps CS6 16-bit, 300ppi, various tools, effects, finish processing, cropping, etc., PSD, TIFF, PSB files; and 8-bit JPEG for Web publishing and email. I do use other Topaz and Nik products on occasion.

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Apr 24, 2019 04:24:29   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
My reason for evaluation of the Topaz DeNoise software was that it is being promoted (don't they all?) as the greatest thing since -----. I tried it - with no other processing - just to find out how good it really is!!!

Loren - Baguio City

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Apr 24, 2019 04:27:25   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
----- and they do say that it should be the first step in your post-processing routine.

Loren - Baguio City

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Apr 24, 2019 08:00:55   #
philz Loc: Rockaway Township NJ
 
I am having the same darkening problem with raw files but not JPEG. I have sent examples to Topaz for them to evaluate, per their request.

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Apr 25, 2019 06:00:59   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Would you say that Topaz DeNoise 6 is better than DeNoise AI?

rlv567 wrote:
Inasmuch as the Internet was off most of the day yesterday (not an unusual occurrence in this country), I decided to do further evaluation of the Topaz DeNoise AI software – just now upgraded to Version 1.0.3 (it seems, an upgrade a day!). In order to achieve reasonably reliable results, I took (Canon G16) 42 pictures, RAW plus JPG, varying subject matter, lighting (natural) and ISO, with the latter from 80 to 12800.

It appears that – with exceptions to be detailed later – there were no definitive patterns to be observed, the actions of the software being quite unpredictable and random! Some results really were excellent in totally removing noise from quite noisy pictures, but others actually introduced a LOT of noise into pictures which had started with very little, SOOC. This pattern was the same for both the RAW and JPG versions. No software other that the Topaz was used in my processing.

In general, using the Topaz software resulted in the pictures being darker than the original, some by a lot! The effectiveness of the software – when successful in removing or lessening noise – was by far greatest on dark subject matter as opposed to light (especially white, where sometimes much noise was added when there was none in the original!) Removal of noise seemed to be most effective in the pictures with the most noise. In all processed pictures the color was changed to a greater or lesser degree!!!

In summation, I would say that the Topaz DeNoise AI software is based on a seemingly good idea, but nowhere near sufficiently consistent or reliable enough for purchase and still pretty slow in some of its actions, though getting better in that regard. When one starts to process a picture, there is no way of predicting whether the end result will be better or worse than the original!!!

Loren – Baguio City
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Apr 25, 2019 07:42:02   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
i upgraded yesterday, found it to be painfully slow in processing the pictures. Not sure why. i'll try it again today. ill close all other programs, as it might be a RAM HOG,though I have 16 gb. I ave the I5 PROCESSOR. BUT FOR NOW, be careful upgrading until you het some mpre feedback from users

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Apr 25, 2019 07:50:42   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
rlv567 wrote:
Inasmuch as the Internet was off most of the day yesterday (not an unusual occurrence in this country), I decided to do further evaluation of the Topaz DeNoise AI software – just now upgraded to Version 1.0.3 (it seems, an upgrade a day!). In order to achieve reasonably reliable results, I took (Canon G16) 42 pictures, RAW plus JPG, varying subject matter, lighting (natural) and ISO, with the latter from 80 to 12800.

It appears that – with exceptions to be detailed later – there were no definitive patterns to be observed, the actions of the software being quite unpredictable and random! Some results really were excellent in totally removing noise from quite noisy pictures, but others actually introduced a LOT of noise into pictures which had started with very little, SOOC. This pattern was the same for both the RAW and JPG versions. No software other that the Topaz was used in my processing.

In general, using the Topaz software resulted in the pictures being darker than the original, some by a lot! The effectiveness of the software – when successful in removing or lessening noise – was by far greatest on dark subject matter as opposed to light (especially white, where sometimes much noise was added when there was none in the original!) Removal of noise seemed to be most effective in the pictures with the most noise. In all processed pictures the color was changed to a greater or lesser degree!!!

In summation, I would say that the Topaz DeNoise AI software is based on a seemingly good idea, but nowhere near sufficiently consistent or reliable enough for purchase and still pretty slow in some of its actions, though getting better in that regard. When one starts to process a picture, there is no way of predicting whether the end result will be better or worse than the original!!!

Loren – Baguio City
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I downloaded it yesterday and tried it on a noisy photo. Very disappointing results. The colors of the photo changed drastically darker, and needed to be reworked. The noise reduction was minimal. Until these issues are fixed, I will stay away from this latest version.

Steve

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Apr 25, 2019 08:07:29   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Denoise AI was a free upgrade for me, so I downloaded it to try it out on a few images. While it seemed to do a reasonable job most of the time if I used it immediately after opening a RAW image, it was slow. I like how Topaz AI Clear works, and use it frequently; unfortunately, AI Clear is no longer available from Topaz.

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Apr 25, 2019 08:22:18   #
rlv567 Loc: Baguio City, Philippines
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Would you say that Topaz DeNoise 6 is better than DeNoise AI?


My copy of DeNoise 6 was a trial, and has expired (however, it still works!). I tried it early on, before I had noticed the totally random results provided by AI. On the one (only) picture compared it was not quite as good as AI.

Loren - Baguio City

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Apr 25, 2019 08:32:45   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
yssirk123 wrote:
Denoise AI was a free upgrade for me, so I downloaded it to try it out on a few images. While it seemed to do a reasonable job most of the time if I used it immediately after opening a RAW image, it was slow. I like how Topaz AI Clear works, and use it frequently; unfortunately, AI Clear is no longer available from Topaz.


AI Clear is one of my favorites! Can't believe it is no longer available. I have it on 2 computers. Horrors!

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Apr 25, 2019 08:50:31   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
In-lightened wrote:
AI Clear is one of my favorites! Can't believe it is no longer available. I have it on 2 computers. Horrors!


Why is it no longer available? I have it, but I am having trouble with it, as well as with Studio.
Steve

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Apr 25, 2019 09:09:16   #
In-lightened Loc: Kansas City
 
StevenG wrote:
Why is it no longer available? I have it, but I am having trouble with it, as well as with Studio.
Steve


Steve...I have no idea and this was the first time I have heard this from Bill's comment above. Sorry you are having trouble. My guess is they don't want to support software they feel they have improved upon. In this case the DeNoise AI.

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Apr 25, 2019 09:13:35   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Would you say that Topaz DeNoise 6 is better than DeNoise AI?"

Right now I would say it is giving the new software a run for the money.

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Apr 25, 2019 09:20:24   #
philz Loc: Rockaway Township NJ
 
AI Clear still works in Studio if you already have it. My take is that Topaz wants people to buy DeNoise AI instead as it is supposed to be an upgrade, one free to those who previously purchased AI Clear and Denoise.

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