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Apr 24, 2019 15:15:45   #
Larryshuman
 
Wildlife. When I set the AF Adjustment for the 800mm F5.6 it would not focus on a flying eagle and also would not focus on an opposite bank a couple of hundred yards north of my position. I wasn't shooting anything just wanting to see if it would at that distance. I went the camera menus to AF adjust and clicked on default settings and now my lens was back. In discussions with Nikon they get a lot of cameras back to fix the not focus problem that was caused by the incorrect setting of the AF Adjustment. Please look at my photos in the gallery and none of them have AF adjustment applied.

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Apr 25, 2019 01:31:30   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
billnikon wrote:
I shoot mainly wildlife. My widest aperture is F4 to F5.6. I shoot animal portraits at a distance. Do not need 1.4. Have not had a need to fine tune. For those that do, I am very happy for them. I also have several 2.8 and 1.8 lenses that have not needed fine tuned. I guess I know my equipment well and understand photography. I do use single spot focus and keep the eye in focus like I did when I did portraits.
Below a shot with the Nikon 500 5.6 at 5.6. Juvenile Great Blue Heron, about 6 weeks old.
I shoot mainly wildlife. My widest aperture is F4 ... (show quote)


Very nice shot, Bill!

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Apr 25, 2019 03:02:39   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Jerry G wrote:
Fifty years ago I was a Navy photographer and pursued photography as a hobby for several years afterward. The only thing auto on any of my cameras was auto aperture, focus and exposure were manual. Now that I'm retired I purchased a new digital camera a couple years ago and quickly found photography has changed and I am still learning.
There have been many discussions here about the need to fine tune some lenses, some people saying every lens needs it and others saying almost no lens needs it. It seems some lenses tend to back focus and need to be tuned. I'm sure I am missing something in my understanding of how AF works so I hope someone can explain it or point me to a resource. My problem in understanding this is that if the camera, either through phase detection or contrast, controls focus, why does the camera not know the lens is not in focus?
Fifty years ago I was a Navy photographer and purs... (show quote)

I trust my focusing screen - if it’s sharp there, it will be sharp at the focal plane.

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Apr 25, 2019 09:11:47   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
billnikon wrote:
I shoot mainly wildlife. My widest aperture is F4 to F5.6. I shoot animal portraits at a distance. Do not need 1.4. Have not had a need to fine tune. For those that do, I am very happy for them. I also have several 2.8 and 1.8 lenses that have not needed fine tuned. I guess I know my equipment well and understand photography. I do use single spot focus and keep the eye in focus like I did when I did portraits.
Below a shot with the Nikon 500 5.6 at 5.6. Juvenile Great Blue Heron, about 6 weeks old.
I shoot mainly wildlife. My widest aperture is F4 ... (show quote)


Larryshuman wrote:
Wildlife. When I set the AF Adjustment for the 800mm F5.6 it would not focus on a flying eagle and also would not focus on an opposite bank a couple of hundred yards north of my position. I wasn't shooting anything just wanting to see if it would at that distance. I went the camera menus to AF adjust and clicked on default settings and now my lens was back. In discussions with Nikon they get a lot of cameras back to fix the not focus problem that was caused by the incorrect setting of the AF Adjustment. Please look at my photos in the gallery and none of them have AF adjustment applied.
Wildlife. When I set the AF Adjustment for the 800... (show quote)


In this type of shooting a little bit of variance is likely acceptable given the resulting DOF. In the 800mm f/5.6 200 yard example the DOF is around 58 feet on a FF camera (36 feet on an APS-C). Compare to a portrait setup of 85mm f/1.2 at 10 feet resulting in around 3.5 inches with only a fine slice of that being tack sharp. In this case a little bit of front or back focusing could be important.

And it is a very nice shot Bill.

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Apr 25, 2019 15:24:03   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
dsmeltz wrote:
In this type of shooting a little bit of variance is likely acceptable given the resulting DOF. In the 800mm f/5.6 200 yard example the DOF is around 58 feet on a FF camera (36 feet on an APS-C). Compare to a portrait setup of 85mm f/1.2 at 10 feet resulting in around 3.5 inches with only a fine slice of that being tack sharp. In this case a little bit of front or back focusing could be important.

And it is a very nice shot Bill.


Thank you. Up North, when I would get within 100 yards of a great blue heron, it would fly away. Here in Florida the birds seem to ask, " do you like this pose, or would you like me to turn around?, would you like a fish in my mouth too? No problem"

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Apr 25, 2019 18:05:10   #
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Jerry G wrote:

Are you saying if you need to fine tune an oem
lens you really need to have the camera adjusted?


It's not exactly that. You ARE adjusting the camera.
You ARE NOT adjusting the lens.

The lens gets no corrections in the process. If it was
OK on "Camera A" but needed tweaking on "Camera
B", the tweaks performed with "Camera B" will NOT
affect the good situation you found with "Camera A".

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