JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon

Hi All, first time posting and years of reading.

I have noticed my manfrotto tripod creeps at various angles. I locked the various lock down knobs but still movement. Oh I do know if the wife walks across the floor I will have creep/movement.
I mainly noticed this when I zoom in for manual focus in the live view on my Canon 80D. I think I now know why some my photos are soft.
Now I have taken my old Bogen tripod with a 3025 head, cleaned the various arms and adjusted the legs for pinch. No movement but a heavy tripod compared to the Manfrotto.

Help

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

What is creeping? The 190 is a set of legs, are the leg locks loose? Or is your head slipping? What is the head if that is the case?

kskarma Loc: Topeka, KS

While I have a 190, I've never had this problem. In looking at the leg clamps on mine just now, it would seem that tightening the small nut on the back side of the locking lever would increase the clamping force. Those nuts look like 'locking nuts', the kind with nylon inserts, (I think NYLOCK is a trade name for some of these).. usually they need some extra 'oooomph..'technical term', to break them loose as they are meant to not work themselves loose. This does NOT mean that a previous owner?...or time?...has not loosened them. Also...be aware that some manufacturers will put a small drop of Locktite in applications like this, so approach this task with plenty of caution....and NOT a lot of brute force, you sure don't want to break anything in this area...(Although, worst case....Manfrotto DOES have parts for all of their products...!)
I'd recommend that you try to determine which leg...and which tube/lock, is slipping before you take ANY
action. Putting a small mark with a Sharpie on the legs when they are extended would give you some
direction in this.

Post your findings and results, please?

JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon

I am not sure where the creeping coming from. I Really tighten the ball head arm. I checked the legs, however, the legs could be the issue.
One clarifying statement. Is the Live View kinda moves in a upward movement with a slight angle. The next time it will be going down.

I agree I need to investigate but was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.

Thanks

kskarma Loc: Topeka, KS

A good way to isolate your problem would be to remove the ball head, then extend and tighten the legs with your tripod on a firm surface. If you place your hand on the head, you should NOT be able to wiggle it around...and you SHOULD be able to apply a goodly amount of force in the downward direction without feeling any slippage at all...
If the tripod is rock solid through all of these tests, your problem would logically be in the ball head... It might help us if we knew which ball head you are using...and introducing "Live View" into this does not really help to isolate things. First thing you need to do...is to get your camera/head/tripod to the point where it is solid when taking a conventional photo...then work on getting it steady for a time exposure..

RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA

Ball head arm??
You should not have to apply excessive pressure anywhere on a tripod or head.

JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon

The Manfrotto tripod is MK 190xPro3 with 494 ball head.

John Gavin

Does the tripod have a center arm that goes up and down? Also it would seem arbitrary where the lens is pointed when just putting a camera on a tripod so maybe position a leg at a target like a tree and then set the camera in live view aimed at the tree and see what happens then repeat for the other two legs. Just my 2 cents.

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jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

If the tripod is following your wife, "creep" is definitely the right term.

You mean the head is letting the camera droop a bit, right? That's not an uncommon problem.

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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

I have the 190 and never any "Creep".
I use a 7D and a 100-400mm MII on it all the time, also many times with a bellows and 7D with a lens.
The bellows combo is quite heavy and I extend the center column and turn it sideways for closeups and no "Creep".

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BartHx

I purchased that exact model Manfrotto tripod, but with a different head. It came with a tool specifically to adjust the tension in the leg clamps. If the problem turns out to be slippage in the legs and you no longer have that tool, I expect you can easily get a replacement from Manfrotto. Since it is simply a Torx drive, you should also be able to get one from your local hardware store. My guess is that Manfrotto expects that the tension might periodically need to be adjusted or they would not supply the tool with the tripod.

JBGLADSTONE Loc: Oregon

Thanks everyone.
I will follow all ideas and solutions
Happy Easter

RRS Loc: Not sure

Do you have your tripod set up on a floor with a carpet? Are you talking creep or just movement while looking at the screen while in live view. What kind of clamp are you using on the ball head and do you have an "L" clamp on the camera. If you have a second camera maybe you could send a picture of how you are setting up. Good luck.

RRS Loc: Not sure

Nice set up!