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Apr 16, 2019 11:22:53   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
tommystrat wrote:
So which IS better - RAW or JPEG?


Better for what? What is more useful, all of the data or a compressed subset of the data? For viewing, a jpeg is better. For archival storage, raw is better. For overall image processing, raw is better. For minimal image modifications, jpeg is better.
If you don't plan on serious post processing, shoot jpeg; it really is good enough.

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Apr 16, 2019 11:26:15   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes.


Good answer.

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Apr 16, 2019 11:40:26   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Streets wrote:
Gee Bill, that's a whole lotta shit I really didn't need to know about!


It was a response to user, 'was a guru'. Hopefully it outlines an approach and structures someone will find useful.

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Apr 16, 2019 12:20:35   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
That's one of my pet peeves. People complaining that something has already been discussed! Seriously?! Do they actually believe every UHH member has participated in every conversation ever conducted here?! What on earth do they think a social media web site is all about? Or is it a case of maybe, not thinking?
Just the other day, maybe yesterday, someone again asked what lens or lenses they should take on vacation. I truly believe that is one of the top questions/discussions brought up here. My opinion is, they're not so much in need of advice on lenses as they are letting others know they're going some place really cool for vacation. My point being, people seam quite willing to offer advice on what lenses to use and rarely if ever point out how often that same question gets asked. Now I'm no pro photographer; own a lot of pro grade gear but I don't do photography for a living. That said, even I know what lenses to take on vacation; as many as I can. But seriously, I like to see America at see level. Not that this has anything to do with people complaining about what has already been discussed, but I'm sure it will piss off someone.

By the way, speaking of seeing America at see level; which one is better, Bombay Hook or Prime Hook, for overall accessibility, subject matter and near by lodging without advance reservations? I ask because I live about 15/20 minutes from the PA DE line, depending on traffic, and I'm looking for good wetlands to shoot in. I've been to the south Fenwick island and OCMD area and Assateague and Chincoteague numerous times but am looking a little bit farther north. John Heinz in PA is nice but it's still next to one of the largest airports in the USA.
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I prefer Bombay Hook. The roadway is high, but you can usually climb down close to water level. Since you will want to be low, bring something to kneel on. I use an old boat cushion. I can't really suggest lodging, but you would be only a few miles from Dover so Google should be a big help.

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Apr 16, 2019 13:04:14   #
no12mo
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'm one of those who advocates for NOT having everything online all the time. Since my high school days, I've filed everything in chronological order. It's relatively easy for me to find negatives I made in 1969. (My event memory is pretty good, and besides, I have my yearbooks to back it up.)

Since working in Lightroom, I've started a new catalog every time I've started a new drive. The new catalog is on that drive. The drives are stored by date, say, 2014 to 2016 for one of them. When I need an image from 2015, I plug in that drive and point Lightroom to that catalog. Boom!

On that drive, my images are separated by year, and event within the year. Each event includes the date and a few descriptive words. In the Library, it is very easy to find the event I need, pop up the images on the grid or "light table" motif, click on the image, and do what I want with it in Develop or Print (or just export it).

I worked in a large portrait lab for decades. When we transitioned to digital production in the early 2000s, we had a similar setup. We had 72 TB online, and a database application to manage it. We could find and load any job (event) in seconds, by following a simple path similar to this one:

Territory Number --> Customer Number --> Job Number --> Session Number

Job numbers were structured so that we knew the year by looking at them. The database stored the file location for each job on the server. A separate database identified each subject in a job's subject database, which led to all the associated order data, and the associated image(s) for each subject. Between our retail territories and our wholesale customer territories, we photographed millions of people each year, so we had to be able to keep them straight!

If the market changes to the point where my old drives can't be read by current ports, I'll just disassemble the cases, pull out the bare drives, and use a universal drive adapter to copy data to a new drive standard. https://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NV2SPATA/ They've built adapters like these for many years now, and I've no doubt they'll update it for USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 or whatever they need to.
I'm one of those who advocates for NOT having ever... (show quote)


I don't disagree with your method of storage / recovery, we *are* veering close to the guardrails topic wise.

A good, new thread would be storing photos so that 100 years from now - short of daguerreotype photos - future generations will still have access to our photos.

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Apr 16, 2019 14:01:49   #
srt101fan
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes.


Great answer!

I bet you're a Yogi Berra fan... "When you come to a fork in the road, take it", et al.

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Apr 16, 2019 14:32:01   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Bill_de wrote:
I prefer Bombay Hook. The roadway is high, but you can usually climb down close to water level. Since you will want to be low, bring something to kneel on. I use an old boat cushion. I can't really suggest lodging, but you would be only a few miles from Dover so Google should be a big help.

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Thank you, I appreciate the advice, especially the old boat cushion. I like the idea of Bombay Hook; it's farther north. I'm about 1:45, depending on traffic, north of Dover so Bombay Hook is close enough to be a day trip. Do you know of any good spots on Fenwick island?
I recently retired and I'm looking for interesting places to go shooting. I make a few trips a year to Conowingo in MD and Middle Creek in PA but I've always wanted to check out Delaware.

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Apr 16, 2019 14:47:10   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Thank you, I appreciate the advice, especially the old boat cushion. I like the idea of Bombay Hook; it's farther north. I'm about 1:45, depending on traffic, north of Dover so Bombay Hook is close enough to be a day trip. Do you know of any good spots on Fenwick island?
I recently retired and I'm looking for interesting places to go shooting. I make a few trips a year to Conowingo in MD and Middle Creek in PA but I've always wanted to check out Delaware.


All finished with jpeg vs. raw, are we?

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Apr 16, 2019 15:16:45   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Streets wrote:
All finished with jpeg vs. raw, are we?


Variety, the spice of life.
It just amazes me that so many people don't understand RAW isn't an image format like JPEG so comparing the two is pretty darn silly.

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Apr 16, 2019 16:29:29   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Streets wrote:
All finished with jpeg vs. raw, are we?


Yes, unless you have something useful to add that hasn't already been discussed.

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Apr 16, 2019 18:06:44   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Bill_de wrote:
Yes, unless you have something useful to add that hasn't already been discussed.

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Apr 16, 2019 18:30:41   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Streets wrote:


Last question I promise .I heard you can get arrested for shooting jpeg

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Apr 17, 2019 00:23:38   #
Dr.Nikon Loc: Honolulu Hawaii
 
I could be jailed for my thoughts ...

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Apr 17, 2019 08:46:36   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
davyboy wrote:
Last question I promise .I heard you can get arrested for shooting jpeg


In Texas you might get shot for shooting raw.

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Apr 17, 2019 13:44:56   #
was_a_guru
 
Streets wrote:
In Texas you might get shot for shooting raw.


I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for this, but if people are just replying to each other with their witticisms that have nothing to do with the original topic (photography) can you do it with a private reply? I get enough junk emails and don't need to open one from UHH and see its of no interest to me whatsoever.

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