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Apr 9, 2019 08:59:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The title "F2.8" made me feel like the poster wants a bragging contest.


Haha.
I think "Yea, what about it?"...

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Apr 9, 2019 09:00:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Pistnbroke, consider saving some text to use as a generic, polite, and constructive reply to those posts that give you this frustration. Such as:

I hope your post generates a response. If you don't get the help you are seeking, consider if a better (more specific) title would have helped gather readers, interest and responses your post. The FAQ for the Main Photography section has the following instruction you should consider when posting:

- Try to use descriptive titles when creating new topics. Instead of something like "Please Help", write a title that briefly states the nature of your post. That way, people who know the answer or are interested in that particular topic would be more likely to click on it to read it and post replies.

The Photography Forum -- Rules, Help, FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) can be read in full at:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1-1.html

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Apr 9, 2019 09:02:42   #
srt101fan
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The title "F2.8" made me feel like the poster wants a bragging contest.


"F/2.8 and don't be there". Oh wait, that ain't right....

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Apr 9, 2019 09:30:49   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
I don't do a lot of social media. This site is mostly it now. But there seems to be some sort of contest in life to come up with "cute" topic headings to make people want to open a post. Human nature I guess. But there is a lot of other human nature that is also frustrating, like hard-headed responses to factual posts based on valid information.

It seems that the major life function of this forum is to help us develop the ability to "just get over it." I have seen very few changes of perspective or position over the nearly two years I've been coming here.

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Apr 9, 2019 09:55:19   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
larryepage wrote:
I don't do a lot of social media. This site is mostly it now. But there seems to be some sort of contest in life to come up with "cute" topic headings to make people want to open a post. Human nature I guess. But there is a lot of other human nature that is also frustrating, like hard-headed responses to factual posts based on valid information.

It seems that the major life function of this forum is to help us develop the ability to "just get over it." I have seen very few changes of perspective or position over the nearly two years I've been coming here.
I don't do a lot of social media. This site is mo... (show quote)


With such a large audience and sources of information it is sometimes difficult to tell what is "valid" information. I could post something and link to my 'trusted' source. Another party refutes that and links to their 'trusted' source. How does a third party know what to believe. I remember from back in my school days there was a published formula (probably the wrong word) that mathematically proved that one plus one did not equal two. It was very convincing.

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Apr 9, 2019 10:21:15   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
Pistnbroke wrote:
Topic titles like "F 2.8" or "FX Lens " don't help anyone pick out the topics to look at . And please put the make of camera you are using . Its so frustrating and seems to be a feature of this site.
AT LAST I have found a post that speaks to my frustration! I fail to understand why members fail to insert in their respective Topic Headers, when applicable, the BRAND or LENS MOUNT TYPE of whatever camera and/or lens they’re asking or complaining about.

Understand that some of us take the time to look through the Main Photography Discussion section, only to be stymied by such (insert derogatory term here) individuals.

Perhaps an additional field could be inserted between those for the Topic Subject Header and Text in which the OP could specify the above, e.g. Nikon cameras, Sony E-mount lenses, etc.? Such a field should probably debut without any mandatory requirement to use it, though be supplied with information as to what its use is for.

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Apr 9, 2019 10:37:08   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Bill_de wrote:
With such a large audience and sources of information it is sometimes difficult to tell what is "valid" information. I could post something and link to my 'trusted' source. Another party refutes that and links to their 'trusted' source. How does a third party know what to believe. I remember from back in my school days there was a published formula (probably the wrong word) that mathematically proved that one plus one did not equal two. It was very convincing.

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With such a large audience and sources of informat... (show quote)


Bill--

You are correct. And...when I taught math, I occasionally showed proofs like the one you mentioned to my students. They all had at least one significant flaw...usually something that could be shown to be dividing by zero (which is impossible) or something similar. The purposes of discussing those proofs were to demonstrate the need to be reasonably skeptical of the work of others and to see the need to check one's own work. There is also a Material Safety Data Sheet which portrays water as an extremely dangerous toxic substance. But in today's world, it is more and more, "that can't be true because it doesn't match what I believe."

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Apr 9, 2019 11:42:46   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
DavidPine wrote:
Frustrations are a fact of this site. Lots of newbies are not familiar with your rules, therefore they don't know how to ask specific questions. If you don't like or don't understand the topic or question please feel free to bypass it to the next one that suits your sensitivities.


I agree. If you can't change other people's behavior, change how you react to it.

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Apr 9, 2019 12:01:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
repleo wrote:
I agree. If you can't change other people's behavior, change how you react to it.


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Apr 9, 2019 12:47:04   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
It's obvious that some folks don't even adhere to the actual existing forum and section rules and policies as it is. Introducing new rules, policies and guidelines may be a fruitless effort and the admin is overtaxed as it is. There is a lack of moderation.

Perhaps, however, folks could be encouraged to follow a sort of form or "template" for posing questions and identifying topics so as to facilitate better and more specific responses to their questions or draw interest from folks who are into in what the want to say.

How many times have you seen a topic like "Canon Speedlight 430EXII". So... is the OP contemplating buying one- selling one, having difficulty with it, loves it and wants to tell everyone or what? Specifying the product and just adding something like "having exposure issues...", "...getting excellent results", ..." are the third part units as good"?, or "how do I set it up for multiple flash usage" etc. would certainly help attract better responses and more interest.

Trying to avoid catchy headlines would help. Things like "I goofed", "Surprised", "I'll never do that again", "HELP"!!! "I hate this"! are all cute but are kinda ambiguous and may be passed over.

For technical questions a kinda "template" of gear specifications such as stating make, model, age, intended usage, etc. certainly help in ascertaining of good advice and suggestions. Folks will inquire about all kinds of technical details about equipment and methods but will not explain what the intend doing with it. They will describe a fault or issue with their results and not attach a picture to show an example. "What is this"? is not as good as "What are these black spots in the sky"? It could be dirt on the sensor or out of focus flying crows- but at least the basic question is clear and to the point.

Some folks are good technical writers and don't need any help. Other perhas don't have the time to be very concise so just "filling in a from" with the specifics may be helpful.

Of course, snarky answers don't help.

Maybe some members will agree?

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Apr 9, 2019 13:07:35   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
It's obvious that some folks don't even adhere to the actual existing forum and section rules and policies as it is. Introducing new rules, policies and guidelines may be a fruitless effort and the admin is overtaxed as it is. There is a lack of moderation.

Perhaps, however, folks could be encouraged to follow a sort of form or "template" for posing questions and identifying topics so as to facilitate better and more specific responses to their questions or draw interest from folks who are into in what the want to say.

How many times have you seen a topic like "Canon Speedlight 430EXII". So... is the OP contemplating buying one- selling one, having difficulty with it, loves it and wants to tell everyone or what? Specifying the product and just adding something like "having exposure issues...", "...getting excellent results", ..." are the third part units as good"?, or "how do I set it up for multiple flash usage" etc. would certainly help attract better responses and more interest.

Trying to avoid catchy headlines would help. Things like "I goofed", "Surprised", "I'll never do that again", "HELP"!!! "I hate this"! are all cute but are kinda ambiguous and may be passed over.

For technical questions a kinda "template" of gear specifications such as stating make, model, age, intended usage, etc. certainly help in ascertaining of good advice and suggestions. Folks will inquire about all kinds of technical details about equipment and methods but will not explain what the intend doing with it. They will describe a fault or issue with their results and not attach a picture to show an example. "What is this"? is not as good as "What are these black spots in the sky"? It could be dirt on the sensor or out of focus flying crows- but at least the basic question is clear and to the point.

Some folks are good technical writers and don't need any help. Other perhas don't have the time to be very concise so just "filling in a from" with the specifics may be helpful.

Of course, snarky answers don't help.

Maybe some members will agree?
It's obvious that some folks don't even adhere to ... (show quote)

E. L. --
This captures the discussion very well, at least for me.

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Apr 9, 2019 13:41:50   #
Pistnbroke Loc: UK
 
I thought any number divided by zero was infinity....??

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Apr 9, 2019 14:02:24   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Pistnbroke wrote:
I thought any number divided by zero was infinity....??


No. Because, since multiplication is the inverse of division, you should then be able to multiply infinity by 0 and get the number you started with. And it does not work that way. So we refer to anything divided by 0 as undefined.

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Apr 9, 2019 14:37:06   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I think there's some windmills over there ....


Which is the best?

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Apr 9, 2019 14:57:00   #
Anhanga Brasil Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil
 
Agree. Just yesterday I was searching UHH to see if it is possible to put color
back on a B&W RAW file shot in monochrome. Could not find.
Finally I found the answer by means of Duck and Go.
I still do not know how to accomplish it on DPP4 (Canon). Thanks for starting.

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