I say Pope Francis is a hypocrite
Apr 4, 2019 20:25:19 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
For starters, the wall does NOT surround all of Vatican City, only parts of it. The walls were built centuries before Vatican City even existed and Pope Francis had nothing to do with them. Those walls are quite old and quite common for most any medieval European city, not just Vatican City or Rome.
So walls do work. For millennia.
Apr 4, 2019 20:54:41 #
Angmo wrote:
Kkklinton?
Indicted sexual predator. Lost law license. Settled outa court. Registered sex Offender.
Indicted sexual predator. Lost law license. Settled outa court. Registered sex Offender.
I guess you mean William J. Clinton, past attorney general, two time governor of Arkansas and 42nd president of the United States?
Exactly what was Bill Clinton convicted of? Accusing someone of something doesn't make them guilty. Both the US House of Representatives and the US Senate concluded Mr. Clinton was NOT guilty of the accusations and charges brought against him.
Arkansas did suspend his license to practice law for 5 years. When he was eligible for reinstatement, he declined as he had no reason to practice law again. His wife's license has never suspended.
People who have never been convicted of a sexual offense are not required to register as a sex offender. Mr. Clinton was never convicted, or even tried, for a sexual offense, therefore no need to register as a sex offender. Where do you get your information from? Make up crap are us?!
Exactly what does this have to do with the conversation?!
By the way, I did not vote for either Clinton.
Apr 4, 2019 21:00:20 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I guess you mean William J. Clinton, past attorney... (show quote)
Lefties had the vote and also redefined the crime. If you recall. Registered sex Offender was obvious snarky humor.
Humor is a trait lacked by lefties as is clearly shown above. So he kept his license and did not settle a substantial sum with one of
His many rape victims? ? ? ?
A new history being written.
Interesting. He was a passenger on the Lolita express too yah know.
Apr 4, 2019 21:05:52 #
Angmo wrote:
So walls do work. For millennia.
Depends on what the walls were built for. Building a wall along the entire southern USA boarder will make the owners of the construction companies and material suppliers wealthy but it will only slow down the illegal emigration to the USA, it will not stop it. Instead of trying to stop the people from illegally entering the USA, take away their incentive to do so. Fine and prosecute the people and companies that hire them.
Apr 4, 2019 21:09:38 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Depends on what the walls were built for. Building a wall along the entire southern USA boarder will make the owners of the construction companies and material suppliers wealthy but it will only slow down the illegal emigration to the USA, it will not stop it. Instead of trying to stop the people from illegally entering the USA, take away their incentive to do so. Fine and prosecute the people and companies that hire them.
A defense in depth. Wall, electronics and tech. (Now it’s a dem rep win win) automatic deportation for criminal trespassers after DNA
Fingerprinting and such is done. Just kick em out.
Zero benefits of any kind.
Apr 4, 2019 21:11:40 #
Angmo wrote:
Lefties had the vote and also redefined the crime. If you recall. Registered sex Offender was obvious snarky humor.
Humor is a trait lacked by lefties as is clearly shown above. So he kept his license and did not settle a substantial sum with one of
His many rape victims? ? ? ?
A new history being written.
Interesting. He was a passenger on the Lolita express too yah know.
Humor is a trait lacked by lefties as is clearly shown above. So he kept his license and did not settle a substantial sum with one of
His many rape victims? ? ? ?
A new history being written.
Interesting. He was a passenger on the Lolita express too yah know.
Oh, I get it. You're another one of those grumpy angry old men that haunt this web site... TTFN
Apr 4, 2019 21:15:27 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Oh, I get it. You're another one of those grumpy angry old men that haunt this web site... TTFN
Loser. Fact and truth too much for yah.
Apr 4, 2019 21:19:35 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Depends on what the walls were built for. Building a wall along the entire southern USA boarder will make the owners of the construction companies and material suppliers wealthy but it will only slow down the illegal emigration to the USA, it will not stop it. Instead of trying to stop the people from illegally entering the USA, take away their incentive to do so. Fine and prosecute the people and companies that hire them.
Think we have tried some of that without much success. A wall won't stop them all but just might make the border much more manageable. Or we can continue to do basically nothing which as been working very well for the last 5 or so administration.
Apr 5, 2019 10:58:02 #
One Rude Dawg wrote:
Think about this. The catholic church is it's own country, shouldn't all the priests in this country have to register as agents of a foreign country. They should at least have to be registered as sex offenders. 
Really? ALL priests are sex offenders?
Apr 5, 2019 11:02:13 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
For starters, the wall does NOT surround all of Vatican City, only parts of it. The walls were built centuries before Vatican City even existed and Pope Francis had nothing to do with them. Those walls are quite old and quite common for most any medieval European city, not just Vatican City or Rome.
Hmmmmm......Pope Leo IV ((847–855) decided he needed a little extra protection and a 39-foot-tall wall was constructed around Leonine City, an area which included the current Vatican territory.
Apr 5, 2019 11:10:44 #
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I guess you mean William J. Clinton, past attorney general, two time governor of Arkansas and 42nd president of the United States?
Exactly what was Bill Clinton convicted of?
Exactly what was Bill Clinton convicted of?
Let’s see, data sometimes helps.......
President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit.
Why?
From Wiki..... “The Supreme Court's ruling in Clinton v. Jones led to the District Court's hearing of Jones v. Clinton, which led to the Lewinsky scandal, when Clinton was asked under oath about other workplace relationships, which led to charges of perjury and obstruction of justice and the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
On April 12, 1999, Judge Wright found Clinton in contempt of court for "intentionally false" testimony in Jones v. Clinton, fined him $90,000, and referred the case to the Arkansas Supreme Court's Committee on Professional Conduct, as Clinton still possessed a law license in Arkansas.[6]
The Arkansas Supreme Court suspended Clinton's Arkansas law license in April 2000. On January 19, 2001, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension and a $25,000 fine in order to avoid disbarment and to end the investigation of Independent Counsel Robert Ray (Starr's successor).”
Apr 5, 2019 16:14:40 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
Regarding walls and 'his excellency' the pontificating liar:
...A Lesson for Pope Francis on Walls and Muslims
by Raymond Ibrahim / PJ Media / April 2, 2019
https://www.meforum.org/58124/lesson-pope-francis-walls-muslims
"I appeal not to create walls but to build bridges" has long been Pope Francis's mantra.
Most recently, when asked last Sunday "a question about migration in general and about U.S. President Donald Trump's threat to shut down the southern border with Mexico," the pope pontificated in platitudes: "Builders of walls," he said, "be they made of razor wire or bricks, will end up becoming prisoners of the walls they build.... With fear, we will not move forward, with walls, we will remain closed within these walls."
Less than a week earlier, Pope Francis lectured the mayor of Rome about the need to be more welcoming to Muslim migrants. "Rome," he declared, "a hospitable city, is called to face this epochal challenge [Muslim migrants demanding entry] in the wake of its noble history; to use its energies to welcome and integrate, to transform tensions and problems into opportunities for meeting and growth."
"Rome," he exulted, "city of bridges, never walls!"
The grand irony of all this is that Pope Francis lives in the only state to be surrounded by walls—Vatican City—and most of these bastions were erected to ward off centuries of Islamic invasions.
Most notably, in 846, a Muslim fleet from North Africa consisting of 73 ships and 11,000 Muslims, landed in Ostia near Rome. Muslim merchants who frequently visited Italy had provided them with precise intelligence that made the raid a success. Although they were unable to breach the preexisting walls of the Eternal City, they sacked and despoiled the surrounding countryside, including—to the consternation of Christendom—the venerated and centuries-old basilicas of St. Peter and St. Paul. The Muslim invaders desecrated the tombs of the revered apostles and stripped them of all their treasures.
Pope Leo IV (847-855) responded by building many more walls, including fifteen bastions along the right bank of the Tiber River, the mouth of which was forthwith closed with a chain to protect the sacred sites from further Muslim raids and desecrations. Completed by 852, the walls were in places 40 feet high and 12 feet thick.
Further anticipating the crusades against Islam by over two centuries—and thus showing how they were a long time coming—Pope Leo (and after him Pope John VIII) offered the remission of sins for those Christians who died fighting Islamic invaders.
Such was the existential and ongoing danger Muslims, referred to in contemporary sources as "Sons of Satan," caused for Europe—more than two centuries before the First Crusade was launched in 1095.
Indeed, just three years after the initial Muslim invasion of Rome, "in 849 the Muslims attempted a new landing at Ostia; then, every year from around 857 on, they threatened the Roman seaboard," explains French medieval historian C. E. Dufourcq:
In order to get rid of them, Pope John VIII decided in 878 to promise them an annual payment [or jizya] of several thousand gold pieces; but this tribute of the Holy See to Islam seems to have been paid for only two years; and from time to time until the beginning of the tenth century, the Muslims reappeared at the mouth of the Tiber or along the coast nearby.
Today, many Muslims, not just of the ISIS-variety, continue to boast that Islam will conquer Rome, the only of five apostolic sees never to have been subjugated by jihad (unlike Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Constantinople). Similarly, Muslims all throughout Europe continue exhibiting the same hostility and contempt for all things and persons non-Islamic, whether by vandalizing churchesand breaking crosses, or by raping "infidel" women as theirs by right. As for Italy, click here, here, and/or here for an idea of how Muslim migrants behave.
And that is the point Pope Francis misses: walls should only go down and bridges should only be extended when both parties are willing to live in amicable peace—as opposed to making the destructive work of those who have been trying to subjugate Europe in the name of Islam that much easier.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of the new book, Sword and Scimitar, Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West, is a Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Gatestone Institute and a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
Related Topics: Immigration, Muslims in Europe | Raymond Ibrahim
...A Lesson for Pope Francis on Walls and Muslims
by Raymond Ibrahim / PJ Media / April 2, 2019
https://www.meforum.org/58124/lesson-pope-francis-walls-muslims
"I appeal not to create walls but to build bridges" has long been Pope Francis's mantra.
Most recently, when asked last Sunday "a question about migration in general and about U.S. President Donald Trump's threat to shut down the southern border with Mexico," the pope pontificated in platitudes: "Builders of walls," he said, "be they made of razor wire or bricks, will end up becoming prisoners of the walls they build.... With fear, we will not move forward, with walls, we will remain closed within these walls."
Less than a week earlier, Pope Francis lectured the mayor of Rome about the need to be more welcoming to Muslim migrants. "Rome," he declared, "a hospitable city, is called to face this epochal challenge [Muslim migrants demanding entry] in the wake of its noble history; to use its energies to welcome and integrate, to transform tensions and problems into opportunities for meeting and growth."
"Rome," he exulted, "city of bridges, never walls!"
The grand irony of all this is that Pope Francis lives in the only state to be surrounded by walls—Vatican City—and most of these bastions were erected to ward off centuries of Islamic invasions.
Most notably, in 846, a Muslim fleet from North Africa consisting of 73 ships and 11,000 Muslims, landed in Ostia near Rome. Muslim merchants who frequently visited Italy had provided them with precise intelligence that made the raid a success. Although they were unable to breach the preexisting walls of the Eternal City, they sacked and despoiled the surrounding countryside, including—to the consternation of Christendom—the venerated and centuries-old basilicas of St. Peter and St. Paul. The Muslim invaders desecrated the tombs of the revered apostles and stripped them of all their treasures.
Pope Leo IV (847-855) responded by building many more walls, including fifteen bastions along the right bank of the Tiber River, the mouth of which was forthwith closed with a chain to protect the sacred sites from further Muslim raids and desecrations. Completed by 852, the walls were in places 40 feet high and 12 feet thick.
Further anticipating the crusades against Islam by over two centuries—and thus showing how they were a long time coming—Pope Leo (and after him Pope John VIII) offered the remission of sins for those Christians who died fighting Islamic invaders.
Such was the existential and ongoing danger Muslims, referred to in contemporary sources as "Sons of Satan," caused for Europe—more than two centuries before the First Crusade was launched in 1095.
Indeed, just three years after the initial Muslim invasion of Rome, "in 849 the Muslims attempted a new landing at Ostia; then, every year from around 857 on, they threatened the Roman seaboard," explains French medieval historian C. E. Dufourcq:
In order to get rid of them, Pope John VIII decided in 878 to promise them an annual payment [or jizya] of several thousand gold pieces; but this tribute of the Holy See to Islam seems to have been paid for only two years; and from time to time until the beginning of the tenth century, the Muslims reappeared at the mouth of the Tiber or along the coast nearby.
Today, many Muslims, not just of the ISIS-variety, continue to boast that Islam will conquer Rome, the only of five apostolic sees never to have been subjugated by jihad (unlike Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Constantinople). Similarly, Muslims all throughout Europe continue exhibiting the same hostility and contempt for all things and persons non-Islamic, whether by vandalizing churchesand breaking crosses, or by raping "infidel" women as theirs by right. As for Italy, click here, here, and/or here for an idea of how Muslim migrants behave.
And that is the point Pope Francis misses: walls should only go down and bridges should only be extended when both parties are willing to live in amicable peace—as opposed to making the destructive work of those who have been trying to subjugate Europe in the name of Islam that much easier.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of the new book, Sword and Scimitar, Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West, is a Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Gatestone Institute and a Judith Friedman Rosen Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
Related Topics: Immigration, Muslims in Europe | Raymond Ibrahim
Apr 5, 2019 16:40:39 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Regarding walls and 'his excellency' the pontifica... (show quote)
Well stated. Sit back and watch the name calling and personal attacks. Lefties hate truth and facts.
Apr 5, 2019 17:00:24 #
Angmo wrote:
Well stated. Sit back and watch the name calling and personal attacks. Lefties hate truth and facts.
Now there's an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black. You are obviously a fine example of what you speak...
Apr 5, 2019 17:07:10 #
Los-Angeles-Shooter
Loc: Los Angeles
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Now there's an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black. You are obviously a fine example of what you speak...
Try to say something useful instead of insulting. It would enlighten you and astonish other people.
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