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Apr 3, 2019 18:36:33   #
wooden_ships
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
Just means he has two years to work on it so it gets done right. Unlike the Democrats who had to shut down the government to pass ObamaCare.


He’s already had two years with the House and Senate owned by the Republicans. He didn’t get it done then and McConnell and other Repub leadership told him to back off. There’s no plan.

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Apr 3, 2019 18:42:46   #
wooden_ships
 
FRENCHY wrote:
Corporate welfare and Military-industrial were in place when O's was occupying the WH did you make the same remark?

Assuredly NOT and the idiot you worshiped was in charge.

Love it when noticing the stupid rage who consume you.

Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex ( which is one facet of corporate welfare ). That was in the late 50’s.

Now trump wants increase the military budget well beyond Obama’s budget.

Do you want to rethink your comment. It makes you look like an uninformed hypocrite.

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Apr 3, 2019 19:09:44   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
So you admit much of the content in your responses is BS, about time.

No, you're putting words in my mouth.

Your idol, trump, us the only BS artist.

With over 9,000 documented lies or untruths since he took office, he's the king of BS!

You really do need to get your alleged news from more reliable sources.

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Apr 3, 2019 20:43:34   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Thanks Shutterbug for a well reasoned post. We were once warned to not do a DNA kit, for if the insurance biz to get hold of your markers they would know your pre-existing conditions before you got them.


Shutterbug1697 wrote:
He's already had 45.5 months to come up with an idea, and can't seem to get beyond his claim if it will be the best thing you've ever seen!

How much longer are you going to blindly follow your ORANGE leader?

He couldn't even get the correct word for the beginning of what he keeps referring to as a witch hunt correct yesterday. He kept calling it oranges! The word he should have used is origins.

There's no health plan coming from trump or the GOP. There never was a plan for a replacement for the ACA from the GOP, and there never will be from them!

If any of you are currently taking any prescription medications, you gave a preexisting condition.

Anyone who's ever been pregnant, that's a preexisting condition.

If any of your kids ever broke a bone in a sports related injury, that's a preexisting condition.

Has anyone ever been in a car accident? Any of those injuries are now preexisting conditions.

Childhood diseases become preexisting conditions.

Know anyone who has been diagnosed with any number of day to day ailments, those are now preexisting conditions.

Anyone saying "anything is better than Obamacare" had better start to do a little more research, or you just might find yourselves stuck with one of a very long list of preexisting conditions that throw you off of a Healthcare plan and without any insurance in the very near future IF trump and the GOP get their way.

Don't think short term, "I don't have any of those preexisting conditions", think long term. You might not always have your current job, and you might have to buy private insurance at some point in the future.

That's when your wish to do away with the ACA, instead of fixing what's wrong with the bill is going to hit you smack dab straight in your face!
He's already had 45.5 months to come up with an id... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2019 00:27:13   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Frank T wrote:
Probably not. They also don't have corporate welfare like we do or a military-industrial complex as we do.
Most assuredly they don't have an imbecile as a President as we do.


There you go, your response shows just whom the real imbecile is.

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Apr 4, 2019 00:30:54   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
No, you're putting words in my mouth.

Your idol, trump, us the only BS artist.

With over 9,000 documented lies or untruths since he took office, he's the king of BS!

You really do need to get your alleged news from more reliable sources.


ROTFLMBO 9,000 documented lies is just pure BS, I challenged this assertion and asked for just 50 of these alleged lies from Trump and NOT one person could list them one by one. No I didn't put words in your mouth, you implied much of your responses is pure BS because we both know they are. Why are you railing against Trump about collusion any longer after 2 years of BS lies from the Left and you?

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Apr 4, 2019 08:53:41   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Where were you when trump referred to white supremacists as very fine people.
There's a reason Trump is trying to undo the Obama legacy. It's because Trump knows that he's not fit to shine Obama's shoes and he wants to erase him.
BTW - You even got Trumps original name wrong but I'm not going to give it to you. Do some research.


Little Frankie, grow up and stop acting like a 5 year old. The reason trump is trying to undo Obamas mess is because he is and was a muslim piece of garbage that did his best to destroy the US.

You are actually ignorant enough to talk about Trump's name. His grandfather naturalized the name in the mid 1800's when he came to the US. His naturalization papers show the name Trump. Big deal. What a petty little child you are.

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Apr 4, 2019 09:41:27   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Little Frankie, grow up and stop acting like a 5 year old. The reason trump is trying to undo Obamas mess is because he is and was a muslim piece of garbage that did his best to destroy the US.

You are actually ignorant enough to talk about Trump's name. His grandfather naturalized the name in the mid 1800's when he came to the US. His naturalization papers show the name Trump. Big deal. What a petty little child you are.


Elaine, You are not only a racist but a stupid one at that. Weren't you guys bitch'n about his going to a certain Christian church for twenty years? Now he's a Muslim?
But tell you what, there's nothing in our Constitution that says a Muslim can't be President. In fact, our Constitution is very specific that there should be no religious test for the position.
So aside from being racist and stupid, you're un-American.
However, here's the good news for today. Scientists are working on a cure for Dementia. I'm not sure if they can reverse yours or not but perhaps they'll help others before they get to your stage.
Have a blessed day Elaine.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:30:13   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Dennis,
I understand how busy he is. What with playing golf and not coming up with a health plan and then of course, nor actually building a wall and trying to figure out how to give Putin Top Secret Clearance, it must make for a tough day.


Frank don't you get tired of getting jumped on for your ridiculous posts just about every day. You are ASSUMING that the wall is not getting built. That is what you said. My understanding is the wall is being built as I type/speak. But money is needed for a longer wall to protect America.

You and your Lefty friends whine and bitch about Trump playing gold but demanded that Obama be allowed to play golf because he needed the rest and recreation. Why the double standard? Surely you are aware that Trump, as a businessman, uses the golf course to finalize deals, discuss deals with world leaders and maybe some relaxation as well. Did you not realize that does happen in the business world OR are you just being an ass to support your ridiculous Leftist position. You know, the position that everything Trump does is bad while everything a Democratic President does is correct and proper.

Health Plan, hmmmmm. I would ask you to come down from your Leftist stupidity for just a few moments. Try to look at things from a neutral position. You might recall the roll out of the Obamacare plan for America. Remember he, for some dumb ass reason, did not use an American company for his on line registering but a Canadian company. That company had tons of problems getting the system to work at all. Many applicants faced problems just getting online. It was a debacle of the highest order. Right after that you may remember a few American companies came forward saying they could have done the job for millions of dollars less, a job that would have worked immediately. But for some reason Obama chose to support a company from another country rather than support an American company.

You may also recall Nancy Pelosi telling us, We have to read the plan to see what is in it. While Congress is supposed to read things prior to signing them, that Congress was supposed to read thousands of pages in a couple of days. Though nobody could have possibly have read the act it was voted for by Democrats and one Republican. It was always a failure from its inception with basically poor people having free medical plans but the rest of America paying through the nose. It never did save money for Americans as Obama promised it would. At its beginning there were still millions of people without medical care. Some 7 million who previously had medical insurance lost it due to Obamacare.

Now you want President Trump to hurriedly give us a plan for medical benefits for all when many Americans are perfectly happy with whatever plans they already have in place. My understanding, from what I have heard, is that there is about 10% of Americans who do not have health insurance. So here we are again with the Socialist Leftist thoughts that the tail should wag the dog. Rather than those 10% of Americans getting a job or whatever it takes to have health insurance the Left would rather screw over 90% of Americans to please the 10%. That my fine feathered friend is how the Left operates. The fact that it will cost an arm and a leg for the rest of us is of no concern to the Left.

On to your final absolutely ridiculous point of giving Putin a security clearance. I know I am wasting my time here by explaining to you this one more time. Others have covered this ad infinitum but you on the Left just won't stop lying in an effort to make a point. It is one of the Alinsky Rules for Radicals, just keep lying and someday it will become truth. President Trump has never given anything to Putin and has imposed sanctions over and above what Obama did for sanctions. You want a President that gave Putin everything, who was really Putin's Bitch, then look only at Barack Obama, Presidential Bitch in Charge, for Putin. Putin wanted missiles out of Eastern Europe. POOF, the missiles were gone. There was no negotiation, no talks about it, nothing tit for tat for America or Eastern Europe, Putin said he wanted the missiles out and Obama took them out. When it came to the infamous Red Line in Syria, Obama was a pussy of the highest order and was not able to use his Presidential power to enforce his own Red Line. So Putin stole Obama's thunder and enforced the rule for Obama. When Putin took over the Ukraine by force there was nary a word of protest from Obama. I mean absolutely nothing. Putin just took what he wanted.

All of this is true yet you on the idiot Left tell us continually that Trump and Putin are buddies, that they are in bed together and now your stupid claim that Putin will receive a security clearance. Do you have any idea how much of a dumb ass you sound? I can understand differences between the Right and the Left. But you on the Left lie constantly bringing up crap like this that you know just isn't true. Yet it continues to go on. You should be a better man than that Frank. But you aren't.

Dennis

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Apr 4, 2019 10:32:45   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frank T wrote:
Elaine, You are not only a racist but a stupid one at that. Weren't you guys bitch'n about his going to a certain Christian church for twenty years? Now he's a Muslim?
But tell you what, there's nothing in our Constitution that says a Muslim can't be President. In fact, our Constitution is very specific that there should be no religious test for the position.
So aside from being racist and stupid, you're un-American.
However, here's the good news for today. Scientists are working on a cure for Dementia. I'm not sure if they can reverse yours or not but perhaps they'll help others before they get to your stage.
Have a blessed day Elaine.
Elaine, You are not only a racist but a stupid one... (show quote)


Little Frankie, read your rant. You sound like a childish little outcast. You are going to scream and cry until someone listens. Too bad little Frankie, you are known as a nut job. Literally, you should try and grow up.....even a little might help. Doesn't change the fact that your messiah is a muslim.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:35:18   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Frank don't you get tired of getting jumped on for your ridiculous posts just about every day. You are ASSUMING that the wall is not getting built. That is what you said. My understanding is the wall is being built as I type/speak. But money is needed for a longer wall to protect America.

You and your Lefty friends whine and bitch about Trump playing gold but demanded that Obama be allowed to play golf because he needed the rest and recreation. Why the double standard? Surely you are aware that Trump, as a businessman, uses the golf course to finalize deals, discuss deals with world leaders and maybe some relaxation as well. Did you not realize that does happen in the business world OR are you just being an ass to support your ridiculous Leftist position. You know, the position that everything Trump does is bad while everything a Democratic President does is correct and proper.

Health Plan, hmmmmm. I would ask you to come down from your Leftist stupidity for just a few moments. Try to look at things from a neutral position. You might recall the roll out of the Obamacare plan for America. Remember he, for some dumb ass reason, did not use an American company for his on line registering but a Canadian company. That company had tons of problems getting the system to work at all. Many applicants faced problems just getting online. It was a debacle of the highest order. Right after that you may remember a few American companies came forward saying they could have done the job for millions of dollars less, a job that would have worked immediately. But for some reason Obama chose to support a company from another country rather than support an American company.

You may also recall Nancy Pelosi telling us, We have to read the plan to see what is in it. While Congress is supposed to read things prior to signing them, that Congress was supposed to read thousands of pages in a couple of days. Though nobody could have possibly have read the act it was voted for by Democrats and one Republican. It was always a failure from its inception with basically poor people having free medical plans but the rest of America paying through the nose. It never did save money for Americans as Obama promised it would. At its beginning there were still millions of people without medical care. Some 7 million who previously had medical insurance lost it due to Obamacare.

Now you want President Trump to hurriedly give us a plan for medical benefits for all when many Americans are perfectly happy with whatever plans they already have in place. My understanding, from what I have heard, is that there is about 10% of Americans who do not have health insurance. So here we are again with the Socialist Leftist thoughts that the tail should wag the dog. Rather than those 10% of Americans getting a job or whatever it takes to have health insurance the Left would rather screw over 90% of Americans to please the 10%. That my fine feathered friend is how the Left operates. The fact that it will cost an arm and a leg for the rest of us is of no concern to the Left.

On to your final absolutely ridiculous point of giving Putin a security clearance. I know I am wasting my time here by explaining to you this one more time. Others have covered this ad infinitum but you on the Left just won't stop lying in an effort to make a point. It is one of the Alinsky Rules for Radicals, just keep lying and someday it will become truth. President Trump has never given anything to Putin and has imposed sanctions over and above what Obama did for sanctions. You want a President that gave Putin everything, who was really Putin's Bitch, then look only at Barack Obama, Presidential Bitch in Charge, for Putin. Putin wanted missiles out of Eastern Europe. POOF, the missiles were gone. There was no negotiation, no talks about it, nothing tit for tat for America or Eastern Europe, Putin said he wanted the missiles out and Obama took them out. When it came to the infamous Red Line in Syria, Obama was a pussy of the highest order and was not able to use his Presidential power to enforce his own Red Line. So Putin stole Obama's thunder and enforced the rule for Obama. When Putin took over the Ukraine by force there was nary a word of protest from Obama. I mean absolutely nothing. Putin just took what he wanted.

All of this is true yet you on the idiot Left tell us continually that Trump and Putin are buddies, that they are in bed together and now your stupid claim that Putin will receive a security clearance. Do you have any idea how much of a dumb ass you sound? I can understand differences between the Right and the Left. But you on the Left lie constantly bringing up crap like this that you know just isn't true. Yet it continues to go on. You should be a better man than that Frank. But you aren't.

Dennis
Frank don't you get tired of getting jumped on for... (show quote)


Obummer used a canadian company, because the head of the company was none other than Michelle Obummers friend. She was unqualifed, and the government just kept throwing more money at her to get the system to work.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:44:15   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Obummer used a canadian company, because the head of the company was none other than Michelle Obummers friend. She was unqualifed, and the government just kept throwing more money at her to get the system to work.


Thanks Elaine. I knew it was something like that but couldn't remember and have little time today to look things up. I did remember though that numerous American companies would have done the work on time, working perfectly for millions of dollars less. But of course the Left doesn't seem to care that the Obamas were part of the corrupt Left.

Dennis

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Apr 4, 2019 10:45:27   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Thanks Elaine. I knew it was something like that but couldn't remember and have little time today to look things up. I did remember though that numerous American companies would have done the work on time, working perfectly for millions of dollars less. But of course the Left doesn't seem to care that the Obamas were part of the corrupt Left.

Dennis



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Apr 4, 2019 13:56:03   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Obummer used a canadian company, because the head of the company was none other than Michelle Obummers friend. She was unqualifed, and the government just kept throwing more money at her to get the system to work.




Exactly like what he did with the stock market from the day he was "Coroneted?"

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Apr 4, 2019 13:57:13   #
Bill 45
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Frank don't you get tired of getting jumped on for your ridiculous posts just about every day. You are ASSUMING that the wall is not getting built. That is what you said. My understanding is the wall is being built as I type/speak. But money is needed for a longer wall to protect America.

You and your Lefty friends whine and bitch about Trump playing gold but demanded that Obama be allowed to play golf because he needed the rest and recreation. Why the double standard? Surely you are aware that Trump, as a businessman, uses the golf course to finalize deals, discuss deals with world leaders and maybe some relaxation as well. Did you not realize that does happen in the business world OR are you just being an ass to support your ridiculous Leftist position. You know, the position that everything Trump does is bad while everything a Democratic President does is correct and proper.

Health Plan, hmmmmm. I would ask you to come down from your Leftist stupidity for just a few moments. Try to look at things from a neutral position. You might recall the roll out of the Obamacare plan for America. Remember he, for some dumb ass reason, did not use an American company for his on line registering but a Canadian company. That company had tons of problems getting the system to work at all. Many applicants faced problems just getting online. It was a debacle of the highest order. Right after that you may remember a few American companies came forward saying they could have done the job for millions of dollars less, a job that would have worked immediately. But for some reason Obama chose to support a company from another country rather than support an American company.

You may also recall Nancy Pelosi telling us, We have to read the plan to see what is in it. While Congress is supposed to read things prior to signing them, that Congress was supposed to read thousands of pages in a couple of days. Though nobody could have possibly have read the act it was voted for by Democrats and one Republican. It was always a failure from its inception with basically poor people having free medical plans but the rest of America paying through the nose. It never did save money for Americans as Obama promised it would. At its beginning there were still millions of people without medical care. Some 7 million who previously had medical insurance lost it due to Obamacare.

Now you want President Trump to hurriedly give us a plan for medical benefits for all when many Americans are perfectly happy with whatever plans they already have in place. My understanding, from what I have heard, is that there is about 10% of Americans who do not have health insurance. So here we are again with the Socialist Leftist thoughts that the tail should wag the dog. Rather than those 10% of Americans getting a job or whatever it takes to have health insurance the Left would rather screw over 90% of Americans to please the 10%. That my fine feathered friend is how the Left operates. The fact that it will cost an arm and a leg for the rest of us is of no concern to the Left.

On to your final absolutely ridiculous point of giving Putin a security clearance. I know I am wasting my time here by explaining to you this one more time. Others have covered this ad infinitum but you on the Left just won't stop lying in an effort to make a point. It is one of the Alinsky Rules for Radicals, just keep lying and someday it will become truth. President Trump has never given anything to Putin and has imposed sanctions over and above what Obama did for sanctions. You want a President that gave Putin everything, who was really Putin's Bitch, then look only at Barack Obama, Presidential Bitch in Charge, for Putin. Putin wanted missiles out of Eastern Europe. POOF, the missiles were gone. There was no negotiation, no talks about it, nothing tit for tat for America or Eastern Europe, Putin said he wanted the missiles out and Obama took them out. When it came to the infamous Red Line in Syria, Obama was a pussy of the highest order and was not able to use his Presidential power to enforce his own Red Line. So Putin stole Obama's thunder and enforced the rule for Obama. When Putin took over the Ukraine by force there was nary a word of protest from Obama. I mean absolutely nothing. Putin just took what he wanted.

All of this is true yet you on the idiot Left tell us continually that Trump and Putin are buddies, that they are in bed together and now your stupid claim that Putin will receive a security clearance. Do you have any idea how much of a dumb ass you sound? I can understand differences between the Right and the Left. But you on the Left lie constantly bringing up crap like this that you know just isn't true. Yet it continues to go on. You should be a better man than that Frank. But you aren't.

Dennis
Frank don't you get tired of getting jumped on for... (show quote)


Dennis:The 10% you write about is 30,000,000 people out of 300,000,000. You can live with 30,000,00 0 people not having any health insurance of any kind? What is more important money or people? This is not a left or right issue. It is a human issue. Don't write back with some right wing bs. Just answer the questions. Yes or no for one, the other money or people.

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