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Mar 29, 2019 14:19:14   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
rmalarz wrote:
Some time ago when I was reading about the Nikon D700, I remember reading an article that mentioned the camera having "pre-recorded scenes and settings" which P mode used to compare the viewed scene with a stored scene and thus set the exposure for what it "knew" to be appropriate. I believe that method is still used to this day on their latest models. Others may have something similar.
--Bob


Yes, and continuously updated. As I understand it they calibrate the model with over 100,000 scenes but don’t directly use the scenes in camera.

But that is just the initial P mode setting. You can use the thumb wheel to scroll through combos of shutter speed and fstop that give correct exposure. And with P mode, unlike Auto and Scene modes, you can control other things such as metering mode.

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Mar 29, 2019 14:50:21   #
dfrodin Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
 
Anything radically new seems to attract the naysayers. I bought the Arsenal and have enjoyed its capabilities, but I have not used it enough to pass judgement on it just yet. My previous Nikons, the D5100 and D5300 had the "Scene" settings, which I didn't think really worked, but I may be wrong. The Arsenal inventor has promised some new capabilities in the near future, so who knows the developments that may occur. How long has it taken for the digital camera to develop its' technologies? I say wait and see what comes about with the Arsenal. For me, I'm happy to get in on the ground floor...

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Mar 29, 2019 16:42:37   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
dfrodin wrote:
Anything radically new seems to attract the naysayers. I bought the Arsenal and have enjoyed its capabilities, but I have not used it enough to pass judgement on it just yet. My previous Nikons, the D5100 and D5300 had the "Scene" settings, which I didn't think really worked, but I may be wrong. The Arsenal inventor has promised some new capabilities in the near future, so who knows the developments that may occur. How long has it taken for the digital camera to develop its' technologies? I say wait and see what comes about with the Arsenal. For me, I'm happy to get in on the ground floor...
Anything radically new seems to attract the naysay... (show quote)


I have had the D5100 and D5300 and now have the D5600. I experimented with Scene modes and Auto early on but as I learned what I wanted moved to the other modes. I favored P mode for a long time but currently mostly use A mode and sometimes M mode (usually with auto ISO) for wildlife.

My D800 had “shooting banks”, which I tried for a while. My Z6 has three user settings. My problem with theses is remembering what I set them for.

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Mar 29, 2019 16:56:26   #
elent
 
Thanks! Mysteries everywhere....

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Mar 29, 2019 18:35:34   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
It's not being a naysayer, per se. It's all the people jumping on board a "crutch", as if it were the magic bullet, instead of seriously learning and applying photographic mainstays, aperture, shutter speed, and ISO.
--Bob
dfrodin wrote:
Anything radically new seems to attract the naysayers. I bought the Arsenal and have enjoyed its capabilities, but I have not used it enough to pass judgement on it just yet. My previous Nikons, the D5100 and D5300 had the "Scene" settings, which I didn't think really worked, but I may be wrong. The Arsenal inventor has promised some new capabilities in the near future, so who knows the developments that may occur. How long has it taken for the digital camera to develop its' technologies? I say wait and see what comes about with the Arsenal. For me, I'm happy to get in on the ground floor...
Anything radically new seems to attract the naysay... (show quote)

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Mar 29, 2019 18:57:03   #
dfrodin Loc: Colorado Springs, CO
 
And I'm saying that it is a new technology that may add some new tools to the toolbox that we already have, thereby increasing our capabilities with the camera. Look at all the capabilities that have already been developed for the digital camera. I'm just saying that the future is unseen yet, so take a look at everything that comes along, it may change you...

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Mar 29, 2019 19:53:59   #
genesampson
 
My friends are now doing a lot of focus stacking, taking as many as 60 photos to merge. I have Nikon D750 and D7200 camera bodies. To focus stack automatically I can use an Arsenal or I could buy a D850 body. Just sayin there may be situations where the Arsenal is a good tool to have on hand. I have one. It's quite dusty.

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Mar 29, 2019 22:08:01   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
jay4u007 wrote:
Someone told me about "Arsenal" which supposedly helps with setting your camera for every shot including HDR photography and remotely triggers from your camera. I like doing my own manual settings, but for business, I shoot Real Estate photography and mostly HDR images, and anything that speeds up my time on location would be great. Any opinions


You already have it. It's commonly known as AUTO. >Alan

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Mar 29, 2019 23:42:18   #
aubreybogle Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Check your camera manual for the features Arsenal is offering that interest you. You may already have the features you want.

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Mar 31, 2019 20:28:12   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
rmalarz wrote:
Some time ago when I was reading about the Nikon D700, I remember reading an article that mentioned the camera having "pre-recorded scenes and settings" which P mode used to compare the viewed scene with a stored scene and thus set the exposure for what it "knew" to be appropriate. I believe that method is still used to this day on their latest models. Others may have something similar.
--Bob


Nikon first put that feature in the FA film camera in the early 1980s. I bought one and still have it. Since you haven't reached an appropriate place in life where you've developed age related issues and begin looking for ways to be able to perpetuate your photographic urges, fast forward a couple of days and have a look at the thread you find at https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-585409-1.html and since I've been unable to express who can benefit from such things as Arsenal maybe you and speters will have the lights turn on for you.

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Mar 31, 2019 21:01:21   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
jay4u007 wrote:
Someone told me about "Arsenal" which supposedly helps with setting your camera for every shot including HDR photography and remotely triggers from your camera. I like doing my own manual settings, but for business, I shoot Real Estate photography and mostly HDR images, and anything that speeds up my time on location would be great. Any opinions


Arsenal is a useful tool coming at us incrementally as it is maturing as do many kickstarter projects, not yet fully developed due to the complexities of covering all the different cameras being supported. Contrary to comments you find here, mostly by people who would still chop wood with an axe and hunt with a bow and arrow or flintlock musket, Arsenal has many very useful features that will facilitate various desireable shooting modes most cameras do not now offer and that many may never offer.

I have multiple units and while I have yet to take them into the field extensively, I have spent a lot of time indoors testing their functionality with different cameras and can tell you that when I do take them into the field they will be extremely useful. I have only found one feature for one of my cameras that is still developing and expect that to be ready very soon much to my pleasure. It's a very interesting instrument.

Most of the criticism you find on the 'net was posted when it was first being tested and many of the features were in beta mode. Most of that is in the past and no longer applies. There is some work to be done with the error trapping aspects of the software which I am sure will come together soon. In the meantime, if you get one, don't interrupt it when it's doing something you've told it to do. If you do interrupt it, it may hang up or hang your camera up. If it does, turn it off, turn off your camera, eject the camera battery for a few seconds and then boot it all back up and it'll be ready to go again. I've put mine under a good deal of stress to test the reaction and it hasn't done any damage or refused to function accurately on reboot.

As is suggested a person should learn "the triangle" and their camera and they won't need Arsenal. The day will never arrive that I will NEED Arsenal but the day has already passed when I WANT Arsenal. Each to his own vices. I don't know what is wrong with those people who are so vehemently against someone else having the photographic equipment they choose to have but I'd just ignore them and suit yourself. Either way it's not a life sentence. You can always sell it if you get it and find that you agree with the axe choppers.

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