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Mar 30, 2019 17:01:54   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
G Brown wrote:
There are two distinct differences in the 'Vegetarian' culture.
One is anti cruelty to animals so want a 'similar diet choice' but without animal products - hence fake burgers and ham etc. (but most animals would not exist if they were not used as food.
The other is the 'believer' in the 1950-1960's fad that a totally vegetarian diet is 'better for you'. Based upon the American studies of Japanese life expectancy. (Very little red meat and protein supplemented with bean and soy curd and an ageing population - not a great understanding of post war either)

Currently we have the fad of food 'without' certain ingredients like Gluten or salt. People rave about 'The Mediterranean' diet but we do not all have the Mediterranean lifestyle or DNA.

Diet is big business.....People are obsessed about what they put down their throat.....The medical profession has no single answer.....and 'one fit' does not work for the billions out there.

One thing is for sure....The supermarkets are coining it in when you consider how cheap loose vegetables are compared to meat and how 'less' is more expensive than 'normal portions'.
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Mar 30, 2019 17:14:11   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
G Brown wrote:
There are two distinct differences in the 'Vegetarian' culture.
One is anti cruelty to animals so want a 'similar diet choice' but without animal products - hence fake burgers and ham etc. (but most animals would not exist if they were not used as food.
The other is the 'believer' in the 1950-1960's fad that a totally vegetarian diet is 'better for you'. Based upon the American studies of Japanese life expectancy. (Very little red meat and protein supplemented with bean and soy curd and an ageing population - not a great understanding of post war either)

Currently we have the fad of food 'without' certain ingredients like Gluten or salt. People rave about 'The Mediterranean' diet but we do not all have the Mediterranean lifestyle or DNA.

Diet is big business.....People are obsessed about what they put down their throat.....The medical profession has no single answer.....and 'one fit' does not work for the billions out there.

One thing is for sure....The supermarkets are coining it in when you consider how cheap loose vegetables are compared to meat and how 'less' is more expensive than 'normal portions'.
There are two distinct differences in the 'Vegetar... (show quote)


I'm not in the first category, I do eat meat, and I love it. I'm eating less, and more vegetables, mostly for healthy diet reasons. I think lots of vegetables are good for health with or without meat. I often think of something good to cook and eat for a meal, and it turns out to be vegetarian. I can't do vegan, though. I need the dairy - you're going to live your life without cheese? And eggs are pretty basic good, cheap food with many uses. The best diet decision I've made is after I got type 2 diabetes I cut out all the refined sugar I could out of my diet, and that has had a very good effect on my health.

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Mar 30, 2019 18:58:20   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I have a couple vegans in the family so I have tasted the fake meat products at Thanksgiving. I can't say they tasted like rubber, but I can't say they tasted like meat, either. I have had vegetarian meals that were tasty and satisfying but I like meat and have no plans to give it up.

As I have aged, I can't eat as much volume as I used to. A normal restaurant meal gets split in half and I have a lunch from it too. We had a party at a steak house recently and had a really nice piece of meat but I got 3 meals out of it. And I was really stuffed after the party and suffered from overeating the next day. (The steak was totally worth it). My second wife is asian so we have a lot of vegetables and little meat but the meat is there and satisfies me. More fish, too. I have been pushing on the top of my winter weight range this year and didn't make it down to my normal summer weight last year. And she eats twice what I do.

I suspect I am cursed with an efficient metabolism. Everything I eat (or even think of eating) is stored. We had a guy in my office when I was working who, when we went to a meeting at another city, would order two meals at every restaurant we ate at, even when I was hard pressed to get through half a meal. He was probably pushing 120 lb. I have so far keep my weight below twice that (but I'm getting closer all the time).

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Mar 31, 2019 07:20:41   #
bedouin Loc: Big Bend area, Texas
 
Vegans are free to put whatever they wish in their mouth. But as a group I do not like them. I have only met one in my life who would sit through a meal without giving me a lecture. God spare me from the tyranny of the morally upright!

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Mar 31, 2019 07:54:29   #
02Nomad Loc: Catonsville, MD
 
Somewhat off topic and I'm not sure where I heard it, but.....

You know that feeling that you get when you see and smell a steak on the grill? I wonder if vegans feel the same way when they mow the lawn?!?!?!

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Mar 31, 2019 08:02:55   #
Dannj
 
02Nomad wrote:
Somewhat off topic and I'm not sure where I heard it, but.....

You know that feeling that you get when you see and smell a steak on the grill? I wonder if vegans feel the same way when they mow the lawn?!?!?!


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Mar 31, 2019 08:08:49   #
SonyBug
 
Dikdik wrote:
The Ground Round is the only thing we've found that is OK.

Dik


Is there a brand name on that "ground round"? My wife is allergic to beef and other red meats. I'd love to have an alternative to chicken and fish.

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Mar 31, 2019 08:31:39   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
My question is not just why a vegetarian wants to eat a meat taste but also how would they know what the taste of something they don't eat is 😂.

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Mar 31, 2019 08:36:17   #
camerabuff58 Loc: Ontario, Canada,
 
Vegetarian chicken flavored ham.. that's a good one.

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Mar 31, 2019 08:37:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
chikid68 wrote:
My question is not just why a vegetarian wants to eat a meat taste but also how would they know what the taste of something they don't eat is 😂.


Very few people are vegetarians their whole life. Many have had meat and liked it before they became vegetarian for ethical or health reasons.

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Mar 31, 2019 09:06:51   #
Ray and JoJo Loc: Florida--Tenneessee
 
Good test, offer a lion a bowl of each and see.

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Mar 31, 2019 09:14:27   #
Stash Loc: South Central Massachusetts
 
No thanks. I'll stick to the real thing.

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Mar 31, 2019 09:51:35   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Maybe, for recovering vegetarians, someone could offer tofu flavored beef?

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Mar 31, 2019 10:03:00   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
All this talk about vegetarians makes me want bacon for breakfast.

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Mar 31, 2019 10:16:09   #
Dannj
 
boberic wrote:
All this talk about vegetarians makes me want bacon for breakfast.


...or for lunch, dinner, mid-night snack, watching tv, reading a book.......

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