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Mar 23, 2019 10:09:46   #
Ishmael
 
I did get a new camera recently, a Canon elph 360 because it's so small I can use it backpacking, but alas, it is not any better than my cell phone which I bring anyway most of the time. It also does "spots" or orbs but not anywhere near the extent that my sx280 does. I know how to look for them but a casual observer would not see anything unusual about those photos. I may search my photos for an example with the elph 360 and post it. I don't know if you can post videos on here, there you would see that as I shoot a scene, as the camera pans around, the spots follow and stay in the same place on the screen. So I am going to get a new camera but at 77 yo and still backpacking, weight and bulk means a lot more to me than 20 years ago when I could still carry 50#. Not any more, so a Camera with changeable lens is probably not my best bet.

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Mar 23, 2019 12:35:22   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Lens flare at its finest. Best of luck.

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Mar 23, 2019 12:56:20   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Clean that lens, shade it from the bright sky and all that flare should disappear. Get in the habit of looking at your lens before you go out to shoot and clean it if it needs it. Never use a filter if you don’t really need too. Easy fix.
Ishmael wrote:
I am new here and this is my first attempt at posting. I have a Canon SX-280 P & S and my usual setting is "auto." But often I get these spots or "orbs" on my pictures especially with this camera. Here's an example taken in Queenstown Tasmania over a year ago. The engine was still in its stall and my camera was pointed inside with the sun outside the building. With short videos I tend to get these spots a lot.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:23:06   #
krashdragon
 
When was the last time you cleaned the lens? Just because it retracts does not mean it cant get dirty.

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Mar 23, 2019 16:58:03   #
Ishmael
 
I cleaned the lens yesterday for the first time since I bought the camera 5 years ago. Most of the time this camera takes normal pictures. I could post a short video that shows how as I pan the camera around the spots stay in the same place. If the sun was getting in I would think that the spots would change as I turn 360 degrees. But they don't at all. It may be there is something wrong with the camera and I'm pretty sure the answer I will always get is lens flare. But do you get lens flare on a cloudy day? Or spots? I do. So I'll send 2-3 pictures now taken on a cloudy day to demonstrate. I don't want to become tiresome on this subject. Partially I'm doing this to get familiar with the UHH system which there is something of a learning curve for me. So I hope you guys (or girls) who are trying to help will put up with me for a while. As you can see the spot stays in the same place on 3 photos taken in succession. It's a cloudy cool day. You might say "dirt on the lens" but pics taken before and after these have no such spot. (Or orb)







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Mar 23, 2019 17:28:01   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Lens flare is the easy answer because it's common and produces spots like you see.
However, lens flare does not always occur at the same spot in different pictures.
I is not likely to be a spot on the sensor because spots on the sensor block light from the sensor, therefore the artifact produced will be black.
I'd guess at this point that it's some sort of defect in the camera. Not sure just what.
Digital problems with the camera's computer generally produce lines either horizontal or vertical, not fuzzy spots.
The intermittent nature of the problem is puzzling.

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Mar 23, 2019 19:16:26   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Ishmael wrote:
I am new here and this is my first attempt at posting. I have a Canon SX-280 P & S and my usual setting is "auto." But often I get these spots or "orbs" on my pictures especially with this camera. Here's an example taken in Queenstown Tasmania over a year ago. The engine was still in its stall and my camera was pointed inside with the sun outside the building. With short videos I tend to get these spots a lot.


The fact that the "orb" is in the same spot on three different images eliminates lens flare as a cause. The next things to look fur are the lens elements (remove the lens and look thru it from both ends to see if there are any irregularities) and the mirror and sensor. Do you have another lens you could try or borrow? If the orb disappears, you know where the problem lies, and if it doesn't it's almost certainly the sensor or mirror. >Alan

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Mar 23, 2019 20:21:41   #
Ishmael
 
I like your answer. I suspect that occasionally this camera gets lens flare maybe if I point it at the sun. But in general that's not the issue here. If it was dirt on the lens or somewhere in the camera all the pictures would have the same problem until I cleaned the lens or something like that.

I'm sure I will get a lot of disagreement about this but these photos I have shown that look they have orbs in them are exactly that. Maybe not 100% but almost all.
https://www.thoughtco.com/spirit-orbs-4051993

They seem to illustrate in the link generally single orbs but after a while this camera started taking pictures of multiple orbs. Other cameras I have including a couple cell phones will take pictures of a single orb but this camera will do the multiples. So the camera might be said to be "haunted."Or more haunted than my other cameras. I do have some fairly plausible ideas about why this is happening to me but I don't want to sound more far out than I already do. Maybe somebody here has had similar experiences, with orbs, ghost photos and the like. Now I will stand back and get ready to get shot down. Maybe I will make it a topic if I don't get blackballed first.

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Mar 23, 2019 20:39:35   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
Ishmael wrote:
I like your answer. I suspect that occasionally this camera gets lens flare maybe if I point it at the sun. But in general that's not the issue here. If it was dirt on the lens or somewhere in the camera all the pictures would have the same problem until I cleaned the lens or something like that.

I'm sure I will get a lot of disagreement about this but these photos I have shown that look they have orbs in them are exactly that. Maybe not 100% but almost all.
https://www.thoughtco.com/spirit-orbs-4051993

They seem to illustrate in the link generally single orbs but after a while this camera started taking pictures of multiple orbs. Other cameras I have including a couple cell phones will take pictures of a single orb but this camera will do the multiples. So the camera might be said to be "haunted."Or more haunted than my other cameras. I do have some fairly plausible ideas about why this is happening to me but I don't want to sound more far out than I already do. Maybe somebody here has had similar experiences, with orbs, ghost photos and the like. Now I will stand back and get ready to get shot down. Maybe I will make it a topic if I don't get blackballed first.
I like your answer. I suspect that occasionally th... (show quote)


I looked at that site and all the orbs I saw were well-defined, usually circular (one photo showed diamond shapes). The spots I saw on your pictures were irregular shapes.

My opinion is that many of the orbs in the website are due to flare. Many of the pictures have light sources in the field of view.

A hypothesis presented to explain something should be as simple as possible (Ockham's Razor). In my opinion implication of supernatural beings is not the simplest possible choice.

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Mar 23, 2019 21:46:16   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Ishmael wrote:
I am new here and this is my first attempt at posting. I have a Canon SX-280 P & S and my usual setting is "auto." But often I get these spots or "orbs" on my pictures especially with this camera. Here's an example taken in Queenstown Tasmania over a year ago. The engine was still in its stall and my camera was pointed inside with the sun outside the building. With short videos I tend to get these spots a lot.


Lens flare. The sun in in front of you and it makes it difficult to stop lens flare when the sun in in front.

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Mar 23, 2019 22:12:00   #
Ishmael
 
That website I linked is very poor. It doesn't even show orbs in some of those photos that it claims to. Orbs don't have to be circular or perfect but one site I went to said they usually were circular to conserve energy. Often they do take a form that makes one confused as to whether it could be a lens flare. It is their nature to be somewhat elusive. There is a background story to this that convinces me they are real orbs involving.....guess what?......somebody who died.
I'm not expecting that even one person on here will agree with my interpretation, but it's possible that somebody might. I think I will put on a couple pictures taken on my new Canon elph360 to illustrate a more subtle orb. In the top picture the orb is on the woman's jacket in the lower right. The next photo shows the woman has moved a little but the orb stays more or less where it was but fainter. It's on her left arm. Since I am taking pictures in the shade a sun flare is ruled out. But you're certainly welcome to think what you wnt, of course.





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Mar 24, 2019 00:51:20   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Ishmael wrote:
I am new here and this is my first attempt at posting. I have a Canon SX-280 P & S and my usual setting is "auto." But often I get these spots or "orbs" on my pictures especially with this camera. Here's an example taken in Queenstown Tasmania over a year ago. The engine was still in its stall and my camera was pointed inside with the sun outside the building. With short videos I tend to get these spots a lot.


Does not look like flare to me? To me it looks like a dirty front element, like it has gotten wet at some time and was not wiped dry

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Mar 26, 2019 18:05:24   #
Ron112
 
it may not be lens flare but more like condensation from temperture change it could be that more so because it happens on over cast days

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Mar 26, 2019 18:09:05   #
Bipod
 
If you can't fit a lens hood to the camera, try a hat with a very wide brim.
Seriously.

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Mar 26, 2019 23:12:23   #
Ishmael
 
OK I have a question then. When I take a video on this camera the spots appear all over the screen and if I turn in a full 360 the spots stay in the same place on the screen as I turn around. So if it was sunflare it wouldn't stay the same the spots would go on and off as the sun would be in a different position.

On Sunday I was out hiking and a friend took a picture of me and I am surrounded by a blue orb. I think I will post it on the forum. If I post it on here I don't know where it will end up. I showed it to my plumber who was here to get paid and he said it reminded him of Skinwalker Ranch where they have a lot of trouble with the blue orbs. I am not really familiar with Skinwalker Ranch I just know the bare outline of that story.

Thanks guys for the help.

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