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Mar 26, 2019 07:56:15   #
ceh1024 Loc: Lutz, FL
 
For those that have moved to the EOS R and are trying to use EF-S Lenses. I have found that not all non-Canon Lenses are compatible. This is documented in various places but is somewhat non explicit. In my case I had a Tamron 18-270 (B008) that would work ok but would not notify the camera to switch into aps-c mode ( this issue can be mitigated by manually switching to aps-c through the menus.) Additionally it had a problem with IS and it had to be switched to off.

I was not satisfied with the IQ so I decided to look for another FF lens to replace this EF-S (This thanks to the idea being put in my head by CHG Canon). Wound up getting a Canon 70-300 to replace the Tamron. No regrets at all on this unexpected purchase at all.

The point being if you are going to use EF-S lenses with the EOS R make sure they are Canon or are 100%compatible.

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Mar 26, 2019 08:01:21   #
khorinek
 
Agreed. I prefer to use like kind equipment, lenses, flash, etc.

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Mar 26, 2019 08:14:12   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
ceh1024 wrote:
For those that have moved to the EOS R and are trying to use EF-S Lenses. I have found that not all non-Canon Lenses are compatible. This is documented in various places but is somewhat non explicit. In my case I had a Tamron 18-270 (B008) that would work ok but would not notify the camera to switch into aps-c mode ( this issue can be mitigated by manually switching to aps-c through the menus.) Additionally it had a problem with IS and it had to be switched to off.

I was not satisfied with the IQ so I decided to look for another FF lens to replace this EF-S (This thanks to the idea being put in my head by CHG Canon). Wound up getting a Canon 70-300 to replace the Tamron. No regrets at all on this unexpected purchase at all.

The point being if you are going to use EF-S lenses with the EOS R make sure they are Canon or are 100%compatible.
For those that have moved to the EOS R and are try... (show quote)


Just a point of clarity. An EF-S lens is an APS-C lens manufactured by Canon. A Tamron APS-C lens with a Canon mount is, well a Tamron APS-C lens with a Canon mount, it is not an EF-S lens.

In the meantime both Tamron and Sigma are working to improve the operation of their APS-C lenses on the R mount cameras. For the more recent lenses from these companies (ones that can use Sigma's USB dock or Tamron's TAP-IN) I would expect to see compatibility firmware updates eventually.

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Mar 26, 2019 08:22:05   #
ceh1024 Loc: Lutz, FL
 
Your right of course. I was just my thinking not what I actually meant.

Also I don't believe that all the firmware for each lens can be changed or is economically feasible. In either case I didn't want to wait around especially now that I found my IQ went up exponentially.

I would have waited for a native EOS Zoom but I think that will also be awhile.

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Mar 26, 2019 09:13:23   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
ceh1024 wrote:
Your right of course. I was just my thinking not what I actually meant.

Also I don't believe that all the firmware for each lens can be changed or is economically feasible. In either case I didn't want to wait around especially now that I found my IQ went up exponentially.

I would have waited for a native EOS Zoom but I think that will also be awhile.


I mentioned the newer lenses because distributing a firmware update for those lenses is not difficult. Older lenses would require a service, while with the newer lenses a simple download will do it.

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Mar 26, 2019 12:26:59   #
oldman2000 Loc: Kent Island, MD
 
khorinek wrote:
Agreed. I prefer to use like kind equipment, lenses, flash, etc.


It's called the "KISS Rule" - Keep It Simple, Son! [PC note - no gender bias intended, just substituting something with the same first letter for a gender-neutral insult!]

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Mar 27, 2019 10:30:29   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ceh1024 wrote:
For those that have moved to the EOS R and are trying to use EF-S Lenses. I have found that not all non-Canon Lenses are compatible. This is documented in various places but is somewhat non explicit. In my case I had a Tamron 18-270 (B008) that would work ok but would not notify the camera to switch into aps-c mode ( this issue can be mitigated by manually switching to aps-c through the menus.) Additionally it had a problem with IS and it had to be switched to off.

I was not satisfied with the IQ so I decided to look for another FF lens to replace this EF-S (This thanks to the idea being put in my head by CHG Canon). Wound up getting a Canon 70-300 to replace the Tamron. No regrets at all on this unexpected purchase at all.

The point being if you are going to use EF-S lenses with the EOS R make sure they are Canon or are 100%compatible.
For those that have moved to the EOS R and are try... (show quote)


CEH - you're missing the fact the Tamron 18-270 VC PZD already HAS stabilization built-in, and was designed in an era BEFORE FF MILCs … so, although it does a snap-up job with Canon DSLRs - this is another era. It's not surprising you ran into these problems. The Tamron is a perfectly good lens - but it needs to be used on the cameras (DSLRs) for which it was intended.


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Mar 27, 2019 11:57:32   #
ceh1024 Loc: Lutz, FL
 
I do not deny your comments but at the same time I don't think I am missing the point. I was actually hoping that it would work as normal on my EOS R with the adapter. I could have lived with manually setting the camera to aps-c mode but I was worried that the constant ticking of the lens trying to stabilize would at some point harm the lens. The exercise was disappointing but I actually came out ahead in many ways except the extended reach.

Currently there are a number of aps-c lenses out there now that with the firmware upgrade and some without work well with the adapter.

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Mar 27, 2019 11:59:26   #
BebuLamar
 
ceh1024 wrote:
I do not deny your comments but at the same time I don't think I am missing the point. I was actually hoping that it would work as normal on my EOS R with the adapter. I could have lived with manually setting the camera to aps-c mode but I was worried that the constant ticking of the lens trying to stabilize would at some point harm the lens. The exercise was disappointing but I actually came out ahead in many ways except the extended reach.

Currently there are a number of aps-c lenses out there now that with the firmware upgrade and some without work well with the adapter.
I do not deny your comments but at the same time I... (show quote)


Why would you want to use EF-S lenses on the EOS-R? EF-S lenses would work better on the cheaper M50 camera than the EOS-R.

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Mar 27, 2019 12:58:11   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ceh1024 wrote:
I do not deny your comments but at the same time I don't think I am missing the point. I was actually hoping that it would work as normal on my EOS R with the adapter. I could have lived with manually setting the camera to aps-c mode but I was worried that the constant ticking of the lens trying to stabilize would at some point harm the lens. The exercise was disappointing but I actually came out ahead in many ways except the extended reach.

Currently there are a number of aps-c lenses out there now that with the firmware upgrade and some without work well with the adapter.
I do not deny your comments but at the same time I... (show quote)


Probably not, though - third party lenses with built-in stabilization … right, CEH?

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Mar 27, 2019 13:11:24   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Why would you want to use EF-S lenses on the EOS-R? EF-S lenses would work better on the cheaper M50 camera than the EOS-R.


1) If you are migrating from APS-C to FF it can be very helpful. 2) the EOS-R 4K video crop makes these lenses useful. A lot has been reported regarding the use of the Sigma 18-35 1.8 as a video lens on the R.

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Mar 27, 2019 13:32:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
dsmeltz wrote:
1) If you are migrating from APS-C to FF it can be very helpful. 2) the EOS-R 4K video crop makes these lenses useful. A lot has been reported regarding the use of the Sigma 18-35 1.8 as a video lens on the R.


What's been said, DS?

What about the Sigma 50-100 f1.8?

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Mar 27, 2019 14:19:26   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Chris T wrote:
What's been said, DS?

What about the Sigma 50-100 f1.8?


i was just answering the question about why one would want to use an APS-C lens on a FF camera..

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Mar 27, 2019 15:00:41   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
dsmeltz wrote:
i was just answering the question about why one would want to use an APS-C lens on a FF camera..


I would think - because you already OWN one (or many) and would wish to save yourself some money over buying new … would that make sense to you, DS?

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Mar 27, 2019 16:32:18   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
I recemnty acquired the RP and retained Tammy 18-400. The camera does not automatically switch when the Tammy is mounted, but once manually switched, it shoots with no issues. I have the same function on 5D S/r, with manual switch, but have not tried the Tammy on that camera

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