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Canon Rebel and Sigma 600 mm mirror lens
Jan 20, 2013 11:03:26   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Hi all. A friend of mine inherited a Sigma 600 mm mirror lens and needs to know how to use it on her Canon Rebel. The lens does not have a diaphragm so is always at f/8.

How does she set the exposure? Does she set the camera to manual mode at f/8 and you adjust the shutter speed as necessary?

Thanks for the help.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:18:32   #
Rob O' Loc: Freakin' Hot Arizona
 
Either set the camera to Aperture priority mode and let the camera choose the shutter speed, or set the camera to manual and adjust the shutter speed yourself. It's the same as a lens with adjustable aperture that you set at f/8 and leave it.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:27:18   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
Be sure you get the adapter if you don't have it yet. Probably T-Mount to EOS - they also make T-Mount to Nikon. About $5 on eBay, Some even have the "AF Confirm" chip. Without the chip your dial should be on M. Even though the chip allows Av or Tv, I find I'm better off at full manual. I use an Opteka 650-1300 and a Lentar 500 F8 like that with my Canons.

A tripod will be very handy with this.

There will be a bit of experimenting with exposure time. With a little work and playing around, you'll get some decent shots.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:38:30   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
RocketScientist wrote:
Be sure you get the adapter if you don't have it yet. Probably T-Mount to EOS - they also make T-Mount to Nikon. About $5 on eBay, Some even have the "AF Confirm" chip. Without the chip your dial should be on M. Even though the chip allows Av or Tv, I find I'm better off at full manual. I use an Opteka 650-1300 and a Lentar 500 F8 like that with my Canons.

A tripod will be very handy with this.

There will be a bit of experimenting with exposure time. With a little work and playing around, you'll get some decent shots.
Be sure you get the adapter if you don't have it y... (show quote)


The lens mounts on to the camera already so I presume she does not need the adapter. I think the tripod is a must, not just "very handy".

Thanks for the input.

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Jan 20, 2013 12:02:34   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
abc1234 wrote:
The lens mounts on to the camera already so I presume she does not need the adapter. I think the tripod is a must, not just "very handy".

Thanks for the input.


If you have a sunny day and you are at a park or lake, you might be able to use a shutter speed of 1/250 or faster and ISO 200 or 400 (my Xs & T1i will do a good job at ISO 800) and not really need a tripod for shooting squirrels and birds. Birds in flight will be iffy at best. Birds sitting on a wire or a woodpecker poking holes in your house will probably work.

The biggest pain in the butt is getting focus down.

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Jan 20, 2013 12:21:40   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
RocketScientist, for normal lenses, we adjust exposure based upon the histogram. Should we do the same with the mirror lens?

Thanks for the help.

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Jan 20, 2013 12:46:46   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
abc1234 wrote:
RocketScientist, for normal lenses, we adjust exposure based upon the histogram. Should we do the same with the mirror lens?

Thanks for the help.


It ain't any different, use your tried and true technique. What I was saying above is that if you crank the ISO a bit, you can use a faster shutter speed for the same (or nearly same) result.

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Jan 20, 2013 12:55:54   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
RocketScientist, you have made this simple. Thanks for the help.

Biochemist

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Jan 20, 2013 13:01:11   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
abc1234 wrote:
RocketScientist, you have made this simple. Thanks for the help.

Biochemist


It's the least I can do. ...And I specialize in doing the least I can do! :lol:

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Jan 20, 2013 13:39:35   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
RocketScientist wrote:
abc1234 wrote:
RocketScientist, you have made this simple. Thanks for the help.

Biochemist


It's the least I can do. ...And I specialize in doing the least I can do! :lol:


Very funny. I agree with you and if you can do less, you will.

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Jan 21, 2013 09:30:08   #
Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL
 
abc1234 wrote:
Hi all. A friend of mine inherited a Sigma 600 mm mirror lens and needs to know how to use it on her Canon Rebel. The lens does not have a diaphragm so is always at f/8.

How does she set the exposure? Does she set the camera to manual mode at f/8 and you adjust the shutter speed as necessary?

Thanks for the help.


Some examples of shots with what appears to be the very same lens. Though no real good examples in these sets, produces some unusual bokeh that are unique for a mirror lens. Little doughnut like circles.

http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/600_8_mirror

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Jan 21, 2013 13:40:48   #
swanseamale47
 
RocketScientist wrote:
Be sure you get the adapter if you don't have it yet. Probably T-Mount to EOS - they also make T-Mount to Nikon. About $5 on eBay, Some even have the "AF Confirm" chip. Without the chip your dial should be on M. Even though the chip allows Av or Tv, I find I'm better off at full manual. I use an Opteka 650-1300 and a Lentar 500 F8 like that with my Canons.

A tripod will be very handy with this.

There will be a bit of experimenting with exposure time. With a little work and playing around, you'll get some decent shots.
Be sure you get the adapter if you don't have it y... (show quote)


I'm fairly sure the Sigma 600 didn't come in a T mount, only camera specific fittings. I suspect your thinking of the cheap "branded" makers mirror lens which were usually a T mount.

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Jan 21, 2013 21:37:40   #
RocketScientist Loc: Littleton, Colorado
 
swanseamale47 wrote:
I'm fairly sure the Sigma 600 didn't come in a T mount, only camera specific fittings. I suspect your thinking of the cheap "branded" makers mirror lens which were usually a T mount.


Entirely probable.

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Jan 23, 2013 00:11:37   #
Larrie Loc: NE Ohio
 
abc1234 wrote:
Hi all. A friend of mine inherited a Sigma 600 mm mirror lens and needs to know how to use it on her Canon Rebel. The lens does not have a diaphragm so is always at f/8.

How does she set the exposure? Does she set the camera to manual mode at f/8 and you adjust the shutter speed as necessary?

Thanks for the help.


The Canon 500 mirror has a removable filter near the rear element. this can be swapped out with various ND filters. The problem is finding them.

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Jan 23, 2013 06:58:55   #
swanseamale47
 
The sigma has a rear filter draw too.

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