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Jan 20, 2013 02:20:13   #
-lois- Loc: Oregon
 
I'm one of those "Ehhh...why shoot RAW?" people. I read all the arguments, I've read up online, I've just never been convinced. Yeah, yeah the white balance. But I can set the white balance in my camera AND in PhotoShop so that didn't really convince me. I usually shoot and make sure I get the right exposure or I shoot again so THAT didn't convince me. More info...yeah and HUGE files so tht didn't convince me. So for some reason today I thought, "Hmmm. Maybe I'll shoot RAW and JPG and just see." It takes a little tweeking around but oh, my - so many things to tweek around! I did almost the same adjustments (that can be done) on the RAW and the JPG. The RAW just has more stuff! And the whites can be whiter than the JPG whites. Even when I adjust the WB in PS. I don't know if I will be a RAW only person fro here on out. But at least I see what you RAW peeps mean by the white balance. And here is my very first RAW...a RAWbin -

Rawbin
Rawbin...

JPG Robin
JPG Robin...

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Jan 20, 2013 08:26:46   #
GrahamS Loc: Hertfordshire, U.K
 
-lois- wrote:
I did almost the same adjustments (that can be done) on the RAW and the JPG.


Don't. The Jpg has already been adjusted and processed in-camera. You should process (adjust) the RAW file better than that, (what does the camera know?) and save it as a Jpg or Tiff file, retaining the original RAW file.

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Jan 20, 2013 09:09:07   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
Welcome to the RAW side -Lois!
It is much more flexible over here.

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Jan 20, 2013 09:18:39   #
DavidT Loc: Maryland
 
That is one chunky robin. Looks like he ate a tennis ball.

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Jan 20, 2013 09:23:18   #
Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Doesn't have to be either or, shoot both for awhile. Soon, I bet you will be shooting RAW only at least most of the time ;)

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Jan 20, 2013 10:15:05   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
-lois- wrote:
I'm one of those "Ehhh...why shoot RAW?" people. I read all the arguments, I've read up online, I've just never been convinced. Yeah, yeah the white balance. But I can set the white balance in my camera AND in PhotoShop so that didn't really convince me. I usually shoot and make sure I get the right exposure or I shoot again so THAT didn't convince me. More info...yeah and HUGE files so tht didn't convince me. So for some reason today I thought, "Hmmm. Maybe I'll shoot RAW and JPG and just see." It takes a little tweeking around but oh, my - so many things to tweek around! I did almost the same adjustments (that can be done) on the RAW and the JPG. The RAW just has more stuff! And the whites can be whiter than the JPG whites. Even when I adjust the WB in PS. I don't know if I will be a RAW only person fro here on out. But at least I see what you RAW peeps mean by the white balance. And here is my very first RAW...a RAWbin -
I'm one of those "Ehhh...why shoot RAW?"... (show quote)

Quite a difference. It looks like you convinced youself. Now you can hang out with the other raw photographers. "Birds of a feather flock together." :D

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Jan 20, 2013 10:26:33   #
-lois- Loc: Oregon
 
DavidT wrote:
That is one chunky robin. Looks like he ate a tennis ball.


More like a softball! They're cold! But they've also been feasting on decaying apples!

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Jan 20, 2013 10:33:31   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
If I weren't already a RAW shooter, that comparison would have had me scrambling for my Shooting Options menu!

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Jan 20, 2013 10:48:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
-lois- wrote:
DavidT wrote:
That is one chunky robin. Looks like he ate a tennis ball.


More like a softball! They're cold! But they've also been feasting on decaying apples!

"Feasting" is a relative term there. :D

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Jan 20, 2013 11:07:40   #
lorenww Loc: St. Petersburg
 
You are shooting RAW. You're just letting your camera convert it to JPEG with settings like vivid color and then the camera discards the RAW file.
I like to make my own JPEG's.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:23:49   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Lightroom makes shooting with RAW only the obvious choice. You make a preset that does on import what your camera normally does to make a jpeg. But the preset does not change your original RAW data...just what you see.

You CAN have your cake and eat it too.

I also have Lightroom convert the RAW file to DNG upon import. But I still use jpeg when I am taking photos that I don't intend to work with...just to save on the file size.

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Jan 20, 2013 11:38:31   #
-lois- Loc: Oregon
 
I don't use Lightroom, I use Photoshop... And I thought I didn't want to mess around MORE in PS. But...when you're used to PS, it really isn't much more messing. And I could NOT duplicate the colors in the JPG that I had in the RAW. It's very interesting to me!

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Jan 20, 2013 11:53:46   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
-lois- wrote:
I don't use Lightroom, I use Photoshop... And I thought I didn't want to mess around MORE in PS. But...when you're used to PS, it really isn't much more messing. And I could NOT duplicate the colors in the JPG that I had in the RAW. It's very interesting to me!


RAW images do not include the corrections your camera makes when creating a jpeg. Corrections include white balance, hue, saturation, sharpening, contrast, and brightening. The amount depends on the White Balance and Picture Control you select. RAW images look flat and washed out without those corrections. You can recreate those corrections in Photoshop.

You could create an Action in Photoshop to do the same thing as any particular Picture Control. Since I have Lightroom I don't use Bridge but you might be able to do something on importing with Bridge. Others here can probably help on that.

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Jan 20, 2013 13:09:59   #
runsthebitterroot Loc: Western Montana
 
Something is wrong here. The jpeg is noisy and severely off color. I shoot both raw and jpeg and there is very little difference between the two. Usually the jpeg looks better than the raw prior to processing.

Larry

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Jan 20, 2013 13:44:45   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Welcome...

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