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dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
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Hopefully this link will play. I find it interesting.

EDIT: The link doesn't seem to play but here it is for those interested.

Men, like nations, think they're eternal. What man in his 20s or 30s doesn't believe, at least subconsciously, that he'll live forever? In the springtime of youth, an endless s summer beckons. As you pass 70, it's harder to hide from reality.... as you lose friends and relatives

Nations also have seasons: Imagine a Roman of the 2nd century contemplating an empire that stretched from Britain to the Near East, thinking: This will endure forever.... Forever was about 500 years, give or take... not bad, but gone!!

France was pivotal in the 17th and 18th centuries; now the land we Love is on its way to becoming part of the Muslim ummah.

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the sun never set on the British empire; now Albion exists in perpetual twilight. Its 96-year-old sovereign is a fitting symbol for a nation in terminal decline.

In the 1980s, Japan seemed poised to buy the world. Business schools taught Japanese management techniques. Today, its birth rate is so low and its population aging so rapidly that an industry has sprung up to remove the remains of elderly Japanese who die alone.

I was born in 1945, almost at the midpoint of the 20th century - the American century. America's prestige and influence were never greater. Thanks to the 'Greatest Generation,' we won a World War fought throughout most of Europe, Asia, and the Pacific. We reduced Germany to rubble and put the rising sun to bed. It set the stage for almost half a century of unprecedented prosperity.

We stopped the spread of c*******m in Europe and Asia and fought international terrorism. We rebuilt our enemies and lavished foreign aid on much of the world. We built skyscrapers and rockets to the moon. We conquered polio and now C***D. We explored the mysteries of the Universe and the wonders of DNA...the blueprint of life.

But where is the glory that once was Rome? America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism - which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

We've gone from a republican government guided by a constitution to a regime of revolving elites. We have less freedom with each passing year. Like a signpost to the coming reign of terror, the cancel culture is everywhere. We've traded the American Revolution for the Cultural Revolution.

The pathetic creature in the White House is an empty vessel filled by his handlers. At the G-7 Summit, 'Dr. Jill' had to lead him like a child. In 1961, when we were young and vigorous, our leader was too. Now a feeble nation is technically led by the oldest man to ever serve in the presidency.

We can't defend our borders, our history (including monuments to past greatness) or our streets. Our cities have become anarchist playgrounds. We are a nation of dependents, mendicants, and misplaced charity. Homeless veterans camp in the streets while i*****l a***ns are put up in hotels.

The president of the United States can't even quote the beginning of the Declaration of Independence ('You know - The Thing') correctly. Ivy League graduates routinely fail history tests that 5th graders could pass a generation ago. Crime rates soar and we blame the 2nd Amendment and slash police budgets.

Our culture is certifiably insane. Men who think they're women. People who fight r****m by seeking to convince members of one race that they're inherently evil, and others that they are perpetual victims. A psychiatrist lecturing at Yale said she fantasizes about 'unloading a revolver into the head of any white person.'

Our national debt is so high that we can no longer even pretend that we will repay it one day. It's a $30+ trillion monument to our improvidence and refusal to confront reality. Our 'entertainment' is sadistic, nihilistic, and as enduring as a candy bar wrapper thrown in the trash. Our music is noise that spans the spectrum from annoying to repulsive.

Patriotism is called an i**********n, treason celebrated, and perversion sanctified. A man in blue gets less respect than a man in a dress. We're asking soldiers to fight for a nation our leaders no longer believe in, while meekly most of us submitted to F***i-ism (the regime of face masks, lockdowns, and hand sanitizers) shows the impending death of the American spirit.

How do nations slip from greatness to obscurity?

* Fighting endless wars they can't or won't win
* Accumulating massive debt far beyond their ability to repay
* Refusing to guard their borders, allowing the nation to be inundated by an alien hoard
* Surrendering control of their cities to mob rule
* Allowing indoctrination of the young
* Moving from a republican form of government to an oligarchy
* Losing national identity
* Indulging indolence
* Abandoning faith and family - the bulwarks of social order.

In America, every one of these symptoms is pronounced, indicating an advanced stage of the disease. Even if the cause seems hopeless, do we not have an obligation to those who sacrificed so much to give us what we had? I'm surrounded by ghosts urging me on: the Union soldiers who held Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg, the battered bastards of Bastogne, those who served in the cold hell of Korea, the guys who went to the jungles of Southeast Asia and came home to be reviled or neglected.

This is the nation that took in my immigrant grandparents, whose uniform my father and most of my uncles wore in the Second World War. I don't want to imagine a world without America, even though it is becoming increasingly likely.

During Britain's darkest hour, when its professional army was trapped at Dunkirk and a German invasion seemed imminent, Churchill reminded his countrymen, 'Nations that go down fighting rise again, and those that surrender tamely are finished.'

The same might be said of causes. If we let America slip through our fingers, if we lose without a fight, what will posterity say of us? While the prognosis is far from good. Only God knows if America's day in the sun is over."

Read it and weep, forward or erase it! I read it and am now forwarding it to you, believing that we in America are at the moment in time to stand up, or let it fall! We now may soon be at the next step in our country's future. I believe that it might be closer than we think. Please think about it...

Dennis

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Jun 24, 2024 14:16:52   #
srg
 
dennis2146 wrote:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.westernoutdoortimes.com/story/2022/12/01/woot/men-like-nations-think-theyre-eternal/4837.html&ved=2ahUKEwjfyNTfoPSGAxWhIzQIHSfnKiIQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Qc7pyt-kTSj3nfgd7G5zf

Hopefully this link will play. I find it interesting.

EDIT: The link doesn't seem to play but here it is for those interested.

Men, like nations, think they're eternal. What man in his 20s or 30s doesn't believe, at least subconsciously, that he'll live forever? In the springtime of youth, an endless s summer beckons. As you pass 70, it's harder to hide from reality.... as you lose friends and relatives

Nations also have seasons: Imagine a Roman of the 2nd century contemplating an empire that stretched from Britain to the Near East, thinking: This will endure forever.... Forever was about 500 years, give or take... not bad, but gone!!

France was pivotal in the 17th and 18th centuries; now the land we Love is on its way to becoming part of the Muslim ummah.

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the sun never set on the British empire; now Albion exists in perpetual twilight. Its 96-year-old sovereign is a fitting symbol for a nation in terminal decline.

In the 1980s, Japan seemed poised to buy the world. Business schools taught Japanese management techniques. Today, its birth rate is so low and its population aging so rapidly that an industry has sprung up to remove the remains of elderly Japanese who die alone.

I was born in 1945, almost at the midpoint of the 20th century - the American century. America's prestige and influence were never greater. Thanks to the 'Greatest Generation,' we won a World War fought throughout most of Europe, Asia, and the Pacific. We reduced Germany to rubble and put the rising sun to bed. It set the stage for almost half a century of unprecedented prosperity.

We stopped the spread of c*******m in Europe and Asia and fought international terrorism. We rebuilt our enemies and lavished foreign aid on much of the world. We built skyscrapers and rockets to the moon. We conquered polio and now C***D. We explored the mysteries of the Universe and the wonders of DNA...the blueprint of life.

But where is the glory that once was Rome? America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism - which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

We've gone from a republican government guided by a constitution to a regime of revolving elites. We have less freedom with each passing year. Like a signpost to the coming reign of terror, the cancel culture is everywhere. We've traded the American Revolution for the Cultural Revolution.

The pathetic creature in the White House is an empty vessel filled by his handlers. At the G-7 Summit, 'Dr. Jill' had to lead him like a child. In 1961, when we were young and vigorous, our leader was too. Now a feeble nation is technically led by the oldest man to ever serve in the presidency.

We can't defend our borders, our history (including monuments to past greatness) or our streets. Our cities have become anarchist playgrounds. We are a nation of dependents, mendicants, and misplaced charity. Homeless veterans camp in the streets while i*****l a***ns are put up in hotels.

The president of the United States can't even quote the beginning of the Declaration of Independence ('You know - The Thing') correctly. Ivy League graduates routinely fail history tests that 5th graders could pass a generation ago. Crime rates soar and we blame the 2nd Amendment and slash police budgets.

Our culture is certifiably insane. Men who think they're women. People who fight r****m by seeking to convince members of one race that they're inherently evil, and others that they are perpetual victims. A psychiatrist lecturing at Yale said she fantasizes about 'unloading a revolver into the head of any white person.'

Our national debt is so high that we can no longer even pretend that we will repay it one day. It's a $30+ trillion monument to our improvidence and refusal to confront reality. Our 'entertainment' is sadistic, nihilistic, and as enduring as a candy bar wrapper thrown in the trash. Our music is noise that spans the spectrum from annoying to repulsive.

Patriotism is called an i**********n, treason celebrated, and perversion sanctified. A man in blue gets less respect than a man in a dress. We're asking soldiers to fight for a nation our leaders no longer believe in, while meekly most of us submitted to F***i-ism (the regime of face masks, lockdowns, and hand sanitizers) shows the impending death of the American spirit.

How do nations slip from greatness to obscurity?

* Fighting endless wars they can't or won't win
* Accumulating massive debt far beyond their ability to repay
* Refusing to guard their borders, allowing the nation to be inundated by an alien hoard
* Surrendering control of their cities to mob rule
* Allowing indoctrination of the young
* Moving from a republican form of government to an oligarchy
* Losing national identity
* Indulging indolence
* Abandoning faith and family - the bulwarks of social order.

In America, every one of these symptoms is pronounced, indicating an advanced stage of the disease. Even if the cause seems hopeless, do we not have an obligation to those who sacrificed so much to give us what we had? I'm surrounded by ghosts urging me on: the Union soldiers who held Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg, the battered bastards of Bastogne, those who served in the cold hell of Korea, the guys who went to the jungles of Southeast Asia and came home to be reviled or neglected.

This is the nation that took in my immigrant grandparents, whose uniform my father and most of my uncles wore in the Second World War. I don't want to imagine a world without America, even though it is becoming increasingly likely.

During Britain's darkest hour, when its professional army was trapped at Dunkirk and a German invasion seemed imminent, Churchill reminded his countrymen, 'Nations that go down fighting rise again, and those that surrender tamely are finished.'

The same might be said of causes. If we let America slip through our fingers, if we lose without a fight, what will posterity say of us? While the prognosis is far from good. Only God knows if America's day in the sun is over."

Read it and weep, forward or erase it! I read it and am now forwarding it to you, believing that we in America are at the moment in time to stand up, or let it fall! We now may soon be at the next step in our country's future. I believe that it might be closer than we think. Please think about it...

Dennis
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&... (show quote)


The best post I have ever seen from "glass is always half empty"
But well stated nevertheless. There is much t***h in what you say.
Being an optimist in a world you have no control over is a choice.
A very healthy choice.

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Jun 25, 2024 06:33:54   #
drainbamage
 
srg wrote:
The best post I have ever seen from "glass is always half empty"
But well stated nevertheless. There is much t***h in what you say.
Being an optimist in a world you have no control over is a choice.
A very healthy choice.

The glass is not only half empty, it is dry.

If that post doesn’t frighten us, then we are not understanding its message.

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Jun 25, 2024 07:13:45   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.westernoutdoortimes.com/story/2022/12/01/woot/men-like-nations-think-theyre-eternal/4837.html&ved=2ahUKEwjfyNTfoPSGAxWhIzQIHSfnKiIQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Qc7pyt-kTSj3nfgd7G5zf

Hopefully this link will play. I find it interesting.

EDIT: The link doesn't seem to play but here it is for those interested.

Men, like nations, think they're eternal. What man in his 20s or 30s doesn't believe, at least subconsciously, that he'll live forever? In the springtime of youth, an endless s summer beckons. As you pass 70, it's harder to hide from reality.... as you lose friends and relatives

Nations also have seasons: Imagine a Roman of the 2nd century contemplating an empire that stretched from Britain to the Near East, thinking: This will endure forever.... Forever was about 500 years, give or take... not bad, but gone!!

France was pivotal in the 17th and 18th centuries; now the land we Love is on its way to becoming part of the Muslim ummah.

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the sun never set on the British empire; now Albion exists in perpetual twilight. Its 96-year-old sovereign is a fitting symbol for a nation in terminal decline.

In the 1980s, Japan seemed poised to buy the world. Business schools taught Japanese management techniques. Today, its birth rate is so low and its population aging so rapidly that an industry has sprung up to remove the remains of elderly Japanese who die alone.

I was born in 1945, almost at the midpoint of the 20th century - the American century. America's prestige and influence were never greater. Thanks to the 'Greatest Generation,' we won a World War fought throughout most of Europe, Asia, and the Pacific. We reduced Germany to rubble and put the rising sun to bed. It set the stage for almost half a century of unprecedented prosperity.

We stopped the spread of c*******m in Europe and Asia and fought international terrorism. We rebuilt our enemies and lavished foreign aid on much of the world. We built skyscrapers and rockets to the moon. We conquered polio and now C***D. We explored the mysteries of the Universe and the wonders of DNA...the blueprint of life.

But where is the glory that once was Rome? America has moved from a relatively free economy to socialism - which has worked so well NOWHERE in the world.

We've gone from a republican government guided by a constitution to a regime of revolving elites. We have less freedom with each passing year. Like a signpost to the coming reign of terror, the cancel culture is everywhere. We've traded the American Revolution for the Cultural Revolution.

The pathetic creature in the White House is an empty vessel filled by his handlers. At the G-7 Summit, 'Dr. Jill' had to lead him like a child. In 1961, when we were young and vigorous, our leader was too. Now a feeble nation is technically led by the oldest man to ever serve in the presidency.

We can't defend our borders, our history (including monuments to past greatness) or our streets. Our cities have become anarchist playgrounds. We are a nation of dependents, mendicants, and misplaced charity. Homeless veterans camp in the streets while i*****l a***ns are put up in hotels.

The president of the United States can't even quote the beginning of the Declaration of Independence ('You know - The Thing') correctly. Ivy League graduates routinely fail history tests that 5th graders could pass a generation ago. Crime rates soar and we blame the 2nd Amendment and slash police budgets.

Our culture is certifiably insane. Men who think they're women. People who fight r****m by seeking to convince members of one race that they're inherently evil, and others that they are perpetual victims. A psychiatrist lecturing at Yale said she fantasizes about 'unloading a revolver into the head of any white person.'

Our national debt is so high that we can no longer even pretend that we will repay it one day. It's a $30+ trillion monument to our improvidence and refusal to confront reality. Our 'entertainment' is sadistic, nihilistic, and as enduring as a candy bar wrapper thrown in the trash. Our music is noise that spans the spectrum from annoying to repulsive.

Patriotism is called an i**********n, treason celebrated, and perversion sanctified. A man in blue gets less respect than a man in a dress. We're asking soldiers to fight for a nation our leaders no longer believe in, while meekly most of us submitted to F***i-ism (the regime of face masks, lockdowns, and hand sanitizers) shows the impending death of the American spirit.

How do nations slip from greatness to obscurity?

* Fighting endless wars they can't or won't win
* Accumulating massive debt far beyond their ability to repay
* Refusing to guard their borders, allowing the nation to be inundated by an alien hoard
* Surrendering control of their cities to mob rule
* Allowing indoctrination of the young
* Moving from a republican form of government to an oligarchy
* Losing national identity
* Indulging indolence
* Abandoning faith and family - the bulwarks of social order.

In America, every one of these symptoms is pronounced, indicating an advanced stage of the disease. Even if the cause seems hopeless, do we not have an obligation to those who sacrificed so much to give us what we had? I'm surrounded by ghosts urging me on: the Union soldiers who held Cemetery Ridge at Gettysburg, the battered bastards of Bastogne, those who served in the cold hell of Korea, the guys who went to the jungles of Southeast Asia and came home to be reviled or neglected.

This is the nation that took in my immigrant grandparents, whose uniform my father and most of my uncles wore in the Second World War. I don't want to imagine a world without America, even though it is becoming increasingly likely.

During Britain's darkest hour, when its professional army was trapped at Dunkirk and a German invasion seemed imminent, Churchill reminded his countrymen, 'Nations that go down fighting rise again, and those that surrender tamely are finished.'

The same might be said of causes. If we let America slip through our fingers, if we lose without a fight, what will posterity say of us? While the prognosis is far from good. Only God knows if America's day in the sun is over."

Read it and weep, forward or erase it! I read it and am now forwarding it to you, believing that we in America are at the moment in time to stand up, or let it fall! We now may soon be at the next step in our country's future. I believe that it might be closer than we think. Please think about it...

Dennis
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&... (show quote)



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Jun 25, 2024 10:13:32   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that virtually everything wrong with America as stated in the article is stated correctly. The ONLY thing I disagree with is the political bias against Biden and the Democrats and blaming the Left for the mess your country -- nay, the world -- is in right now. Neither party is to blame 100%, and both parties have had a hand in where things are today. There is a world-wide push towards the right in many countries now, and I don't believe that is a good thing. Balance is more important than full blown bias; cooperation in government is more important than fealty to a political leaning in name only despite shifts in platforms and policies.

But the ONE THING I am absolutely certain of is that America and the world have had enough of Trump. He will NOT fix America and the world. He will bring an end to civility and democracy. You can see it in his past business practices and in his previous presidency. He learns from his mistakes, and he will bulldoze his way ahead in a second term to take your country down a dangerous and perhaps even irreversible path.

I fear November 2024.

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Jun 25, 2024 11:35:58   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
JohnFrim wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that virtually everything wrong with America as stated in the article is stated correctly. The ONLY thing I disagree with is the political bias against Biden and the Democrats and blaming the Left for the mess your country -- nay, the world -- is in right now. Neither party is to blame 100%, and both parties have had a hand in where things are today. There is a world-wide push towards the right in many countries now, and I don't believe that is a good thing. Balance is more important than full blown bias; cooperation in government is more important than fealty to a political leaning in name only despite shifts in platforms and policies.

But the ONE THING I am absolutely certain of is that America and the world have had enough of Trump. He will NOT fix America and the world. He will bring an end to civility and democracy. You can see it in his past business practices and in his previous presidency. He learns from his mistakes, and he will bulldoze his way ahead in a second term to take your country down a dangerous and perhaps even irreversible path.

I fear November 2024.
There is no doubt in my mind that virtually everyt... (show quote)

Youbshould fear if slojoe elected. THAT means Kamala will be pres. DEMS STILL have time not to nominate the worthess POS SLOJOE and K. A v**e for joe is a v**e for Kamala

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Jun 25, 2024 12:56:24   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
wilpharm wrote:
Youbshould fear if slojoe elected. THAT means Kamala will be pres. DEMS STILL have time not to nominate the worthess POS SLOJOE and K. A v**e for joe is a v**e for Kamala


And Republicans still have time to replace Trump.

2016: 330,000,000 and Clinton are Trump are your best?
2020: 330,000,000 (plus a few immigrants!) and Biden and Trump are your best?
2024: 330,000,000 (plus yet a few more immigrants) and Biden and Trump are your best?

WTF is WRONG with you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jun 25, 2024 13:51:31   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
JohnFrim wrote:
And Republicans still have time to replace Trump.

2016: 330,000,000 and Clinton are Trump are your best?
2020: 330,000,000 (plus a few immigrants!) and Biden and Trump are your best?
2024: 330,000,000 (plus yet a few more immigrants) and Biden and Trump are your best?

WTF is WRONG with you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WTF is wrong with YOU???

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Jun 25, 2024 13:52:23   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
JohnFrim wrote:
And Republicans still have time to replace Trump.

2016: 330,000,000 and Clinton are Trump are your best?
2020: 330,000,000 (plus a few immigrants!) and Biden and Trump are your best?
2024: 330,000,000 (plus yet a few more immigrants) and Biden and Trump are your best?

WTF is WRONG with you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


a "few" more immigrants??????

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Jun 25, 2024 16:27:54   #
drainbamage
 
wilpharm wrote:
a "few" more immigrants??????

The left wants Trump to be replaced....Gee, I wonder why that could be??? 🤔😅

...



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Jun 26, 2024 06:16:53   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
wilpharm wrote:
Youbshould fear if slojoe elected. THAT means Kamala will be pres. DEMS STILL have time not to nominate the worthess POS SLOJOE and K. A v**e for joe is a v**e for Kamala

The GOP still has time to say no way that they'll nominate a Criminal Felon!

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Jun 26, 2024 06:20:48   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
drainbamage wrote:
The left wants Trump to be replaced....Gee, I wonder why that could be??? 🤔😅

...

For the sake of the country and the US Constitution, trump should be replaced!

If you choose to live under an Autocracy or a Dictatorship, then move to a country with those kind of leaders.

But the majority of the country knows that trump should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office ever again!

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Jun 26, 2024 06:50:01   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The GOP still has time to say no way that they'll nominate a Criminal Felon!


he is no worse than Joe & the Toe..and their open border

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Jun 26, 2024 07:15:09   #
drainbamage
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
For the sake of the country and the US Constitution, trump should be replaced!

If you choose to live under an Autocracy or a Dictatorship, then move to a country with those kind of leaders.

But the majority of the country knows that trump should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office ever again!

Trump did not try to create an Autocracy or a dictatorship in his first term. Not even close. What is the driver behind the left’s obsession that he is going to be different this time?

You are being manipulated by the global elite - who are not American - and whose first and only goal is to destroy our country.

Go ahead and support the c***ting. When you realize what you’ve done to yourself, you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

Good luck living under the manacles of Socialism. It has never worked other than k*****g the Middle Class and making everyone poorer, manipulated and miserable.

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Jun 26, 2024 07:17:50   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
drainbamage wrote:
Trump did not try to create an Autocracy or a dictatorship in his first term. Not even close. What is the driver behind the left’s obsession that he is going to be different this time?

You are being manipulated by the global elite - who are not American - and whose first and only goal is to destroy our country.

Go ahead and support the c***ting. When you realize what you’ve done to yourself, you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

Good luck living under the manacles of Socialism. It has never worked other than k*****g the Middle Class and making everyone poorer, manipulated and miserable.
Trump did not try to create an Autocracy or a dict... (show quote)


whoosh..over her head

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