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May 27, 2024 11:11:26   #
Brionjames Loc: Great britain
 
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8 or z9.
I have nikon currently, and although my lenses will not work without an adapter, I don't think there is anything out there that will beat the nikon z cameras.
But do I need to go z9, or will z8 be all I need?, I shoot mostly wildlife, birds, and the odd sunset, and landscape.
Money is limited, so at first I will be using my current lenses with adapters, I have a few native prime lenses, and a couple of zoom lenses, including a nikon 200/500 , and a sigma 60/600, and a 50/500 bigma.
Anyone got any advice, from what I have read the z8 is just a smaller z9, with only a few less features.
It is so difficult to decide, as this will most likely be my last camera purchase.

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May 27, 2024 11:20:10   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Brionjames wrote:
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8 or z9.
I have nikon currently, and although my lenses will not work without an adapter, I don't think there is anything out there that will beat the nikon z cameras.
But do I need to go z9, or will z8 be all I need?, I shoot mostly wildlife, birds, and the odd sunset, and landscape.
Money is limited, so at first I will be using my current lenses with adapters, I have a few native prime lenses, and a couple of zoom lenses, including a nikon 200/500 , and a sigma 60/600, and a 50/500 bigma.
Anyone got any advice, from what I have read the z8 is just a smaller z9, with only a few less features.
It is so difficult to decide, as this will most likely be my last camera purchase.
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8... (show quote)


The Z8 is quite capable, but the Z9 is an amazing full pro body. The Z9 battery is good for over 5000 shots at least. I went from a Z7 to Z9, and after 3 months got a second Z9 , it was that amazing! A bit heavy for some, but balances big lenses quite well! I have the Z800mm F6.3 on one, and the Z 180-600mm on the other as I shoot primarily wildlife.

Size comparison.
Size comparison....
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800 on tripod. 180-600mm hangs below for when wildlife gets closer.
800 on tripod. 180-600mm hangs below for when wild...
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May 27, 2024 11:24:48   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Brionjames wrote:
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8 or z9.
I have nikon currently, and although my lenses will not work without an adapter, I don't think there is anything out there that will beat the nikon z cameras.
But do I need to go z9, or will z8 be all I need?, I shoot mostly wildlife, birds, and the odd sunset, and landscape.
Money is limited, so at first I will be using my current lenses with adapters, I have a few native prime lenses, and a couple of zoom lenses, including a nikon 200/500 , and a sigma 60/600, and a 50/500 bigma.
Anyone got any advice, from what I have read the z8 is just a smaller z9, with only a few less features.
It is so difficult to decide, as this will most likely be my last camera purchase.
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8... (show quote)


I went with a Z8 for precisely the reasons you mentioned. The biggest difference that I can see is the lack of vertical grip on the Z8. If that is important to you, you may want to consider the Z9. For about $1,000 more I decided I didn't need that. The Z8 has all the various eye-focus stuff, including birds, and works just fine for the shooting I do, which is apparently very similar to your interests.

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May 27, 2024 11:29:07   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
Are we going to start this debate again...

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May 27, 2024 11:38:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
OldCADuser wrote:
Are we going to start this debate again...

Most certainly.

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May 27, 2024 11:42:31   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Brionjames wrote:
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8 or z9.
I have nikon currently, and although my lenses will not work without an adapter, I don't think there is anything out there that will beat the nikon z cameras.
But do I need to go z9, or will z8 be all I need?, I shoot mostly wildlife, birds, and the odd sunset, and landscape.
Money is limited, so at first I will be using my current lenses with adapters, I have a few native prime lenses, and a couple of zoom lenses, including a nikon 200/500 , and a sigma 60/600, and a 50/500 bigma.
Anyone got any advice, from what I have read the z8 is just a smaller z9, with only a few less features.
It is so difficult to decide, as this will most likely be my last camera purchase.
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8... (show quote)


Since you are feeling the need to ask, I think it's important to consider how skilled you are with what you have, what kind of shooting you do, and which Nikon camera you are using now. If I'd been shooting with a D3100 and could afford it, I'd have found a way to swing a Z8 when it first came out, even if I never got a new lens. The Z9 is way more than I'd ever need or want, but I had money together a year ago to buy a Z8 until I stopped and took a deep breath. The total expenditure of close to $5,000 for camera, grip, bextra batteries, memory cards, and adaptor just don't get me the value above my D850.

My mind might change someday. If my ship comes in, maybe I'll do a Z8 InfraRed conversion. It would be the perfect IR camera we've all been seeking.

These are great cameras. But they come with some design misses also. You can read about some of them in discussions here. They are not perfect cameras.

In the end, you need to decide.

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May 27, 2024 11:47:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I will get a mirrorless if that's all that is available when I replace my DSLR.

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May 27, 2024 11:58:09   #
Mike D. Loc: Crowley County, CO.
 
This is an intensely personal idea that we really can't help with but you asked, so here are my two cents worth.

First, I fing the WYSIWYG idea of mirrorless very attractive but with that being said, I never have been a "keeping up with the Jones's" type and much of the DSLR's are dead thing is marketing hype. Camera companies stay in business by selling things, not resting on their laurels.

I have a D7100 and a D750, neither one of which are above my skill set. If/when that day comes and I can justify the purchase of a mirrorless rig, then maybe but one thing this new format has done is make stellar glass very reasonable.

If a Z8 is something that your skill level cries out for then but by all means, invest in one. If it's just a G.A.S. attack, then it can wait.

Ultimately, the choice is yours - good luck with your decision.

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May 27, 2024 12:01:25   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Brionjames wrote:
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8 or z9.
I have nikon currently, and although my lenses will not work without an adapter, I don't think there is anything out there that will beat the nikon z cameras.
But do I need to go z9, or will z8 be all I need?, I shoot mostly wildlife, birds, and the odd sunset, and landscape.
Money is limited, so at first I will be using my current lenses with adapters, I have a few native prime lenses, and a couple of zoom lenses, including a nikon 200/500 , and a sigma 60/600, and a 50/500 bigma.
Anyone got any advice, from what I have read the z8 is just a smaller z9, with only a few less features.
It is so difficult to decide, as this will most likely be my last camera purchase.
I have been toying with updating to mirrorless, z8... (show quote)


One might ask what camera you have now and whether a new camera is even needed, if money is an issue. You save the most money by not buying a new camera you don't need. This site is populated by people who will happily spend your money as their own.

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May 27, 2024 12:10:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
One might ask what camera you have now and whether a new camera is even needed, if money is an issue. You save the most money by not buying a new camera you don't need. This site is populated by people who will happily spend your money as their own.

Coupled with that's what they want.....

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May 27, 2024 12:34:18   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
OldCADuser wrote:
Are we going to start this debate again...


Isn't this a place for debate, and sharing opinions and experience?

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May 27, 2024 12:39:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Alafoto wrote:
Isn't this a place for debate, and sharing opinions and experience?

Most certainly!
But saying "get" is not debating, sharing opinions of something, or an experience with something.

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May 27, 2024 12:44:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Most certainly!
But saying "get" is not debating, sharing opinions of something, or an experience with something.


And your constantly stating that you don’t need mirrorless is just SO helpful.

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May 27, 2024 12:46:31   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
larryepage wrote:
Since you are feeling the need to ask, I think it's important to consider how skilled you are with what you have, what kind of shooting you do, and which Nikon camera you are using now. If I'd been shooting with a D3100 and could afford it, I'd have found a way to swing a Z8 when it first came out, even if I never got a new lens. The Z9 is way more than I'd ever need or want, but I had money together a year ago to buy a Z8 until I stopped and took a deep breath. The total expenditure of close to $5,000 for camera, grip, bextra batteries, memory cards, and adaptor just don't get me the value above my D850.

My mind might change someday. If my ship comes in, maybe I'll do a Z8 InfraRed conversion. It would be the perfect IR camera we've all been seeking.

These are great cameras. But they come with some design misses also. You can read about some of them in discussions here. They are not perfect cameras.

In the end, you need to decide.
Since you are feeling the need to ask, I think it'... (show quote)


The Z8 is complete overkill for IR. A first generation Z6 or Z7 would be a much more sensible option.

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May 27, 2024 12:50:12   #
Jim Bianco
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
One might ask what camera you have now and whether a new camera is even needed, if money is an issue. You save the most money by not buying a new camera you don't need. This site is populated by people who will happily spend your money as their own.


Well said!!!

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