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May 21, 2024 23:09:34   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a D750 and a D810. There was/is nothing wrong with the D7000 but I wanted a full frame so I debated the D750 and the D810. I had decided on the 810 but a situation arose that took a chunk of my cash so I purchased the D750. I love that camera and still use it. The desire for the D810 never went away so when I was able I purchased a refurbished one. I love it, too and use the 750 and 810 pretty equally. The D7000 sits in a case unused. There are some things I don't get rid of.

So now I'm having a G.A.S. attack for the D850. Why, I ask myself. The 750 and 810 do everything I need and lately I haven't been taking any photos so why invest in something that may do a lot of sitting.

Onto my questions to those of you that have multiple cameras. Why do you have more than one or 2? Do you use all of them? Will you purchase more and why or why not?

I know some will wonder why I don't jump on the mirrorless train but I don't want to start over with having to buy new lenses in addition to a new camera. Yes, I know there is a converter but I think that is handicapping the advanced features of mirrorless. Plus, I think that there are a few things that still need improving such as battery life and the fact that there is nothing covering the sensor making dust spots more of an issue.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your time to answer my questions.

Dodie

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May 21, 2024 23:13:14   #
User ID
 
Plenty of different cameras here at hand. Its my "shop at home network". New needs arise, dig thru the inventory and find the most likely solution. Test that and either go with it or dig again. Worst case, add to the inventory :-(

If I were in your spot, Id skip the D850 and add a Z body with an FTZ. You have some reservations about that genre, but it does expand your abilities while a D850 is pretty much redundant. Your reservations may be valid, but the Z will not be your only camera. Enjoy the new benefits where the Z shines, and use your SLRs wherever they still shine brighter for you.

A D850 no longer makes sense anymore. If you reeeeeally just cannot consider a Z then wheres the real hardship in NOT enlarging your current stable of SLRs ?

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May 21, 2024 23:37:29   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
I have two Olympus EM1 MKIIs and a MKIII.

The MKIII is an upgrade that I thought fit my work compared to the newer OLympus M-1.

I have kept the extra MK II with the intention of having it converted to infrared. I haven't decided yet on what sensor/filter to set the infrared to. I am primarily interested in the B & W like spectrum over the color spectrum. Definitely need to do additional research.

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May 22, 2024 00:01:06   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
User ID wrote:
Plenty of different cameras here at hand. Its my "shop at home network". New needs arise, dig thru the inventory and find the most likely solution. Test that and either go with it or dig again. Worst case, add to the inventory :-(

If I were in your spot, Id skip the D850 and add a Z body with an FTZ. You have some reservations about that genre, but it does expand your abilities while a D850 is pretty much redundant. Your reservations may be valid, but the Z will not be your only camera. Enjoy the new benefits where the Z shines, and use your SLRs wherever they still shine brighter for you.

A D850 no longer makes sense anymore. If you reeeeeally just cannot consider a Z then wheres the real hardship in NOT enlarging your current stable of SLRs ?
Plenty of different cameras here at hand. Its my &... (show quote)



Thank you, User ID! You make some good points which I will add into my "pro" and "con" columns. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions

Dodie

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May 22, 2024 00:02:45   #
gwilliams6
 
luvmypets wrote:
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a D750 and a D810. There was/is nothing wrong with the D7000 but I wanted a full frame so I debated the D750 and the D810. I had decided on the 810 but a situation arose that took a chunk of my cash so I purchased the D750. I love that camera and still use it. The desire for the D810 never went away so when I was able I purchased a refurbished one. I love it, too and use the 750 and 810 pretty equally. The D7000 sits in a case unused. There are some things I don't get rid of.

So now I'm having a G.A.S. attack for the D850. Why, I ask myself. The 750 and 810 do everything I need and lately I haven't been taking any photos so why invest in something that may do a lot of sitting.

Onto my questions to those of you that have multiple cameras. Why do you have more than one or 2? Do you use all of them? Will you purchase more and why or why not?

I know some will wonder why I don't jump on the mirrorless train but I don't want to start over with having to buy new lenses in addition to a new camera. Yes, I know there is a converter but I think that is handicapping the advanced features of mirrorless. Plus, I think that there are a few things that still need improving such as battery life and the fact that there is nothing covering the sensor making dust spots more of an issue.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your time to answer my questions.

Dodie
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a... (show quote)


FYI, the CIPA battery ratings of mirrorless cameras do NOT reflect the actual battery usage possible. Most mirrorless cameras will do well over one thousand and more shots per battery charge.

The reason for the discrepancy is how CIPA tests battery in mirrorless cameras. CIPA turns on the camera, focuses, takes a photo, then turns off the camera again, and repeats. No one shoots like that, and the repeated startups lowers the battery life. Yes mirrorless need more battery power for the EVFs, etc., but it isn't a real problem as most can shoot all day on a single battery, and I always carry spares, and sometimes use dual battery grip.

Secondly many of the mirrorless cameras have shutters and/or curtains that can be lowered over the sensor when the camera isn't in use.

I just use some simple cleaning techniques, and techniques when changing lenses, even in dusty situations and I get no more dust on my sensors in my mirrorless cameras than I did in my DSLRs, really.

Not trying to sell you on mirrorless at all. The advantages of an EVF, better AF performance, true silent shooting, and loads more mirrorless advantages that NO DSLR can ever have speaks for itself.

Use what you like , are comfortable with, what works for what and how you shoot, and be happy.

As a pro of over 50 years in the business, I have used all formats and types of cameras, and made the move to mirrorless back in January 2017 for my personal and professional work. I sold all my Nikon and Canon DSLR gear, and I would never go back to any DSLR, even a very good one like the Nikon D850.

You can still make excellent shots with the gear you have, so if you want to stay with DSLRs and get that D850, indulge yourself.

Here are the reasons why many of the Top News Services in the world switched from their DSLR use to exclusive mirrorless use for their staff photographers and staff videographers, worldwide.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Since moving to Sony mirrorless in 2017 after 40+ years of using pro Nikon, Canon and Leica gear, I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV, A7SIII, and currently own Sony A1, A9III, A7RV. I use them each for what they do better than the other models, and I never do paid work without a backup camera body along.

Cheers and best to you, whatever you decide.

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May 22, 2024 00:03:21   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
JFCoupe wrote:
I have two Olympus EM1 MKIIs and a MKIII.

The MKIII is an upgrade that I thought fit my work compared to the newer OLympus M-1.

I have kept the extra MK II with the intention of having it converted to infrared. I haven't decided yet on what sensor/filter to set the infrared to. I am primarily interested in the B & W like spectrum over the color spectrum. Definitely need to do additional research.


Thank you for answering my post. I could see where converting a camera that you are already use to would be beneficial. Good luck with your research.

Dodie

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May 22, 2024 00:03:52   #
User ID
 
JFCoupe wrote:
I have two Olympus EM1 MKIIs and a MKIII.

The MKIII is an upgrade that I thought fit my work compared to the newer OLympus M-1.

I have kept the extra MK II with the intention of having it converted to infrared. I haven't decided yet on what sensor/filter to set the infrared to. I am primarily interested in the B & W like spectrum over the color spectrum. Definitely need to do additional research.

Why not go full spectrum and use on-lens filters to explore different avenues of IR ?
Thats the huge advantage of a live view camera for IR, so why waste it ?

Carefully choosing one in-body on-sensor IR channel made sense for SLRs cuz an on-lens filter would greatly dim or even black out an SLR viewfinder. OTOH with live view you can see whatever your various on-lens filters are doing to your image. You can even set the viewing image to preview your BW results.

BTW, IIRC, IR conversion disables your IBIS so you may want one very versatile lens with OIS, preferably with a modest filter size, cuz on-lens IR filters aint cheap ! Fortunately, m4/3 lenses are smaller than other formats.

Also, again IIRC, you lose a cameras internal sensor cleaning ability with an IR conversion, so thaz another reason to settle on just one very versatile lens (with OIS !).

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May 22, 2024 00:08:11   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
I would add that my OLympus sensor have never had the dust issues I had with my Canon 5D MK II.

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May 22, 2024 00:21:58   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
luvmypets wrote:
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a D750 and a D810. There was/is nothing wrong with the D7000 but I wanted a full frame so I debated the D750 and the D810. I had decided on the 810 but a situation arose that took a chunk of my cash so I purchased the D750. I love that camera and still use it. The desire for the D810 never went away so when I was able I purchased a refurbished one. I love it, too and use the 750 and 810 pretty equally. The D7000 sits in a case unused. There are some things I don't get rid of.

So now I'm having a G.A.S. attack for the D850. Why, I ask myself. The 750 and 810 do everything I need and lately I haven't been taking any photos so why invest in something that may do a lot of sitting.

Onto my questions to those of you that have multiple cameras. Why do you have more than one or 2? Do you use all of them? Will you purchase more and why or why not?

I know some will wonder why I don't jump on the mirrorless train but I don't want to start over with having to buy new lenses in addition to a new camera. Yes, I know there is a converter but I think that is handicapping the advanced features of mirrorless. Plus, I think that there are a few things that still need improving such as battery life and the fact that there is nothing covering the sensor making dust spots more of an issue.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your time to answer my questions.

Dodie
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a... (show quote)


Dodie--
I have several cameras, all purchased very intentionally. Sometimes I use two or more together, such as when shooting a production at church...one setup for the whole platform area, one for soloists, and perhaps a third "utility" camera. I have and shoot both DX and FX cameras, sometimes simultaneously.

My primary cameras are two D850s and three D500s. They share essentially the same layout, image characteristics, and menu layout. But I also keep my D810, primarily for its smooth, quiet shutter for the few situations where that is important.

Like you, I have no burning desire to drop the $5,000 or so (before lenses) that it would take to get setup with even a single equivalent mirrorless camera (a Z8). I might add one someday, but am in no hurry right now. What I have does everything that I need to do, so I feel pretty well set for equipment. And I'm very pleased with my available array of cameras, lenses, and peripheral equipment. Buying the new dedicated mirrorless lenses to replace what I have would require further exorbitant expenditures.

Finally, I learn and use the functionality of my cameras...all the way out to the edges. What they do and how they do it is important to me. I do not like some of the choices that designers have made on the new models. The Z6 and Z7 were nonstarters for me. The Z8 is better, but still a little bit off the mark. And the Z9 is completely off the mark for me...complete overkill.

So I'll be standing pat for the time being.

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May 22, 2024 00:23:10   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
FYI, the CIPA battery ratings of mirrorless cameras do NOT reflect the actual battery usage possible. Most mirrorless cameras will do well over one thousand and more shots per battery charge.

The reason for the discrepancy is how CIPA tests battery in mirrorless cameras. CIPA turns on the camera, focuses, takes a photo, then turns off the camera again, and repeats. No one shoots like that, and the repeated startups lowers the battery life. Yes mirrorless need more battery power for the EVFs, etc., but it isn't a real problem as most can shoot all day on a single battery, and I always carry spares, and sometimes use dal battery grip.

Secondly many of the mirrorless cameras have shutters and/or curtains that can be lowered over the sensor when the camera isn't in use.

I just use some simple cleaning techniques, and techniques when changing lenses, even in dusty situations and I get no more dust on my sensors in my mirrorless cameras than I did in my DSLRs, really.

Not trying to sell you on mirrorless at all. The advantages of an EVF, better AF performance, true silent shooting, and loads more mirrorless advantages that NO DSLR can ever have speaks for itself.

Use what you like , are comfortable with, what works for what and how you shoot, and be happy.

As a pro of over 50 years in the business, I have used all formats and types of cameras, and made the move to mirrorless back in January 2017 for my personal and professional work. I sold all my Nikon and Canon DSLR gear, and I would never go back to any DSLR, even a very good one like the Nikon D850.

You can still make excellent shots with the gear you have, so if you want to stay with DSLRs and get that D850, indulge yourself.

Here are the reasons why many of the Top News Services in the world switched from their DSLR use to exclusive mirrorless use for their staff photographers and staff videographers, worldwide.

https://alphauniverse.com/stories/why-the-associated-press-just-switched-to-sony/

https://petapixel.com/2021/11/17/sony-is-now-the-exclusive-camera-provider-for-gannett-and-usa-today/

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4545693607/the-uk-largest-news-agency-partners-with-sony

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/31/canadas-largest-news-organization-moves-exclusively-to-sony-cameras/#:~:text=Canada's%20Largest%20News%20Agency%20Moves%20Exclusively%20to%20Sony%20Cameras,-Jan%2031%2C%202022&text=The%20Canadian%20Press%2C%20the%20largest,provider%20for%20the%20media%20company.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/09/how-pro-photographers-helped-make-the-z9-from-prototype-to-flagship/

Since moving to Sony mirrorless in 2017 after 40+ years of using pro Nikon, Canon and Leica gear, I have owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV, A7SIII, and currently own Sony A1, A9III, A7RV. I use them each for what they do better than the other models, and I never do paid work without a backup camera body along.

Cheers and best to you, whatever you decide.
FYI, the CIPA battery ratings of mirrorless camera... (show quote)



Thank you so much for all your input and the articles. I will delve into them tomorrow. I will also do a little research on the Sony cameras you currently have. Never hurts to have more info when making a decision.

Your help is greatly appreciated!!

Dodie

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May 22, 2024 00:29:18   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
luvmypets wrote:
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a D750 and a D810. There was/is nothing wrong with the D7000 but I wanted a full frame so I debated the D750 and the D810. I had decided on the 810 but a situation arose that took a chunk of my cash so I purchased the D750. I love that camera and still use it. The desire for the D810 never went away so when I was able I purchased a refurbished one. I love it, too and use the 750 and 810 pretty equally. The D7000 sits in a case unused. There are some things I don't get rid of.

So now I'm having a G.A.S. attack for the D850. Why, I ask myself. The 750 and 810 do everything I need and lately I haven't been taking any photos so why invest in something that may do a lot of sitting.

Onto my questions to those of you that have multiple cameras. Why do you have more than one or 2? Do you use all of them? Will you purchase more and why or why not?

I know some will wonder why I don't jump on the mirrorless train but I don't want to start over with having to buy new lenses in addition to a new camera. Yes, I know there is a converter but I think that is handicapping the advanced features of mirrorless. Plus, I think that there are a few things that still need improving such as battery life and the fact that there is nothing covering the sensor making dust spots more of an issue.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate your time to answer my questions.

Dodie
Let me start by saying I have 3. A Nikon D7000, a... (show quote)

Backup.

DX (Nikon 500) and FX (Nikon D850). They use the same FX lenses, which can be an issue at times.
Workhorse? D850 and I do not crop for 'zoom effect'.

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May 22, 2024 00:30:59   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
larryepage wrote:
Dodie--
I have several cameras, all purchased very intentionally. Sometimes I use two or more together, such as when shooting a production at church...one setup for the whole platform area, one for soloists, and perhaps a third "utility" camera. I have and shoot both DX and FX cameras, sometimes simultaneously.

My primary cameras are two D850s and three D500s. They share essentially the same layout, image characteristics, and menu layout. But I also keep my D810, primarily for its smooth, quiet shutter for the few situations where that is important.

Like you, I have no burning desire to drop the $5,000 or so (before lenses) that it would take to get setup with even a single equivalent mirrorless camera (a Z8). I might add one someday, but am in no hurry right now. What I have does everything that I need to do, so I feel pretty well set for equipment. And I'm very pleased with my available array of cameras, lenses, and peripheral equipment. Buying the new dedicated mirrorless lenses to replace what I have would require further exorbitant expenditures.

Finally, I learn and use the functionality of my cameras...all the way out to the edges. What they do and how they do it is important to me. I do not like some of the choices that designers have made on the new models. The Z6 and Z7 were nonstarters for me. The Z8 is better, but still a little bit off the mark. And the Z9 is completely off the mark for me...complete overkill.

So I'll be standing pat for the time being.
Dodie-- br I have several cameras, all purchased v... (show quote)



Thank you so much, Larry!! I appreciate your input. An article I read stated that the Z7ii was very close to the 850 in what they would do and build quality. I would choose the Z8 but the price is a no-go for me and if I were going to buy a top quality camera I'm going to want top quality lenses so I'm looking at around $8000 for the camera and the 2 main lenses (24-70 and 70-200) Way out of my ballpark. I'm glad you still use the D810. I love mine.

Dodie

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May 22, 2024 00:33:01   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Backup.

DX (Nikon 500) and FX (Nikon D850). They use the same FX lenses, which can be an issue at times.
Workhorse? D850 and I do not crop for 'zoom effect'.


Thank you, Rongnongno!! I appreciate your input.

Dodie

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May 22, 2024 00:34:27   #
gwilliams6
 
luvmypets wrote:
Thank you so much for all your input and the articles. I will delve into them tomorrow. I will also do a little research on the Sony cameras you currently have. Never hurts to have more info when making a decision.

Your help is greatly appreciated!!

Dodie


You are welcome.

Cheers and best to you.

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May 22, 2024 00:45:44   #
User ID
 
JFCoupe wrote:
I would add that my OLympus sensor have never had the dust issues I had with my Canon 5D MK II.

Thaz great. But my 5DII was never a dust bunny. Likewise my 5DIII and 6D. I wonder why yours had dust. Maybe a "dust pumper" zoom lens on it ?

Im never plagued by dust in ANY camera, perhaps cuz I seldom bring a multiple lens outfit. Also my prefered two-lens method is m4/3 or small APSC with two bodies, so no lens swapping in the wild.

Even if any of my lenses happens to be a "dust pumper", I never zoom in and out to figure out my framing. I always frame by naked eye first and then calmly set one chosen FL without any further "zooming around" to second guess myself.

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