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Oct 27, 2011 09:52:06   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I would like to take some time and apologize to the board for my behavior last night, I let a pet peeve of mine boil over and when I should have been the bigger person and walk away I didn't. I'm sorry I did not take my issues to PM but rather put it out there for all to see. That was wrong of me.

I am sorry for that.

After receiving some not so nice PM's from 2 members on this board, and speaking with both my husband (who knows how important I think giving back is) and speaking with my photography mentor this morning on my way to work, I originally had made the choice to leave the board, but I have made a committment to judge the photo contest, so until November 4th I will still be around, after that I will reevaluate my feelings.

In the mean time, I have decided that I will no longer be offering feedback to new members. I will wait until I see how well the received critique before offering my views/ideas.

Thank you.

MWAC
(oh and incase anyone is wondering, since one member can't figure it out, I am a female. I asked my husband, he said he's 150% sure on that).

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Oct 27, 2011 09:55:42   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
+1. Your thoughts on the competence and capabilities of certain new members must be tempered with the idea that your sex, er...gender...is fairly well determined by your signature.

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Oct 27, 2011 10:16:29   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
Wouldn't worry about it. Critique is critique. I don't offer it unless someone asks. If I give an honest opinion and it pisses them off, then I don't get angry, I just never give a critique to that person again (no one should).
I feel that if a person really wants critical review because they know their technique needs improving, then they want to know what could be improved. If all they're wanting to hear is "good job", well they can get that crap all day without asking for a critique.

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Oct 27, 2011 10:27:45   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
MWAC wrote:
I would like to take some time and apologize to the board for my behavior last night, I let a pet peeve of mine boil over and when I should have been the bigger person and walk away I didn't. I'm sorry I did not take my issues to PM but rather put it out there for all to see. That was wrong of me.

I am sorry for that.

After receiving some not so nice PM's from 2 members on this board, and speaking with both my husband (who knows how important I think giving back is) and speaking with my photography mentor this morning on my way to work, I originally had made the choice to leave the board, but I have made a committment to judge the photo contest, so until November 4th I will still be around, after that I will reevaluate my feelings.

In the mean time, I have decided that I will no longer be offering feedback to new members. I will wait until I see how well the received critique before offering my views/ideas.

Thank you.

MWAC
(oh and incase anyone is wondering, since one member can't figure it out, I am a female. I asked my husband, he said he's 150% sure on that).
I would like to take some time and apologize to th... (show quote)


If you hadn't noticed, since returning to this forum I'm including a note for: NO EDIT - NO CRITIQUE - NO HIGHJACKING on every thread I start. I don't need advice or critique from anyone on this forum. Those that know me, and those I respect, know they can always comment or send me a PM. I don't need or want UNSOLICITED comments. I don't need edits as well. I don't put my photos on the forum until they are exactly like I want them. I'd be willing to say I have more experience, more editing skills than all but a very few individuals on here.

I personally don't think you should leave. I have had to bite my lip and restrain myself from flaming any number of people for their stupidity. I've had my battles and have managed to smooth over long running arguments. Egos get in the way of common sense and facts sometimes. I don't post any advice without being able to back it up a dozen ways. Stay with us and help those truly looking to improve their photography.

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Oct 27, 2011 10:46:36   #
LittleRedFish Loc: Naw'lens (New Orleans)
 
MWAC, of course I know what thread you are talking about, and you came to my defense. Most likely they are a teenager and should not be on the Fourm anyway. Based on their responds I would say at the very least they are on a child like level.

Personally, this other person should be giving the appolgy, but they are immature, clearly spiteful and rude.

Please don't leave. You are a very valuable member. We have a new members who ask for critique and then throws temper-tantums, because someone found something they could do better on their pictures. It is they who should be leaving. Beside, this person I think started no less then three new treads yesterday. Clearly they are looking for attention, and will stop at nothing to get it.

Several people PM me and told to to ignore her. She clearly wants a fight. I will send a PM to admin asking that she be removed. We don't need people like them on the UHH.
We do need people like you, so please stay.

Sincerely, Rach

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Oct 27, 2011 10:59:46   #
rocco_7155 Loc: Connecticut/Louisiana
 
No apologies needed. There was childish, crazy, ranting behavior by the other party which went on for hours (I stayed up and tried to get her to see reason) If folks want to get only accolades, they can seek them from friends an relatives.

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Oct 27, 2011 11:02:21   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
You can always follow my lead and ask her to add you to her "ignore" list. Pretty soon she'd be talking to her best friend, herself.

Years ago, when chat rooms were the rage, teens would infiltrate the rooms, curse, call names and ruin the site. I can't believe we've seen 14 year old members on here when the membership rules clearly prohibit anyone under 18.

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Oct 27, 2011 11:10:09   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
Please stay. You give some of the most honest and best critiques. I will miss you if you go. Please don't let one or two people drive you away when the rest of us need you here.

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Oct 27, 2011 11:21:02   #
JimH Loc: Western South Jersey, USA
 
Rach and Mom w/AC - remember, if you leave, they win.

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Oct 27, 2011 11:23:23   #
David707 Loc: Medford OR
 
I agree with the others, MWAC...stay. I am a relatively new member, and have not posted many potos yet, but I DO read not just your C&Cs, but others who are more experienced than I am, and find them valuable. That's what this forum is about..learning. Like Bob, I have seen the nutcases infiltrate boards, and it's sad that happens, but I guess we have to take the good with the bad.
Anyway,hope you decide to stick around, the board needs your input, and for those who don't like it, tough. You have done nothing to apologize for.
Just my two cents...

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Oct 27, 2011 11:31:23   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
I don't know what happened, and don't really care to find out. However, I'd encourage you to stay with the forum. We need all kinds of input; from amateurs to professionals, and everybody in between.

"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth."
~Marcus Aurelius

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Oct 27, 2011 11:34:35   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
thank you everyone, I just can't believe I let them get to me the way I did. I should have taken a step back and turned off the computer, but I posted and well that's that. I'm not hiding from the fact I posted what I did. In fact I even linked to it in another thread to set the OP straight that it was in fact not a PM, that it was posted out in the open for all to see. I'm a big girl, I own up to my mistakes.

I do (not so secretly) hope that the admin takes my PM seriously, if this is truely a family friendly site, then the PM I received full of name calling and cuss words should result in a cancelation of their membership.

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Oct 27, 2011 11:53:13   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
mr wilson put it so well that i can't add anything to what he said other than ditto. im glad i missed whatever that incident was, but knowing the quality of your work and rachels work, i would automaticaly have to feel you 2 are correct in whatever the spat was. Rember this latin phrase"illegitum non carbaroundem" roughly translated don't let the bastards grind you down. :D :-D :thumbup:

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Oct 27, 2011 11:59:33   #
bobmielke Loc: Portland, OR
 
sinatraman wrote:
mr wilson put it so well that i can't add anything to what he said other than ditto. im glad i missed whatever that incident was, but knowing the quality of your work and rachels work, i would automaticaly have to feel you 2 are correct in whatever the spat was. Rember this latin phrase"illegitum non carbaroundem" roughly translated don't let the bastards grind you down. :D :-D :thumbup:


Good morning sleepy head. Glad you could join us. :) I don't speak Greek. I just believe in "Kay Sarah, Sarah".

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Oct 27, 2011 12:24:23   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
MWAC wrote:
thank you everyone, I just can't believe I let them get to me the way I did. I should have taken a step back and turned off the computer, but I posted and well that's that. I'm not hiding from the fact I posted what I did. In fact I even linked to it in another thread to set the OP straight that it was in fact not a PM, that it was posted out in the open for all to see. I'm a big girl, I own up to my mistakes.

I do (not so secretly) hope that the admin takes my PM seriously, if this is truely a family friendly site, then the PM I received full of name calling and cuss words should result in a cancelation of their membership.
thank you everyone, I just can't believe I let the... (show quote)


We all make them, but the truly mature person admits them and tries to correct them.

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