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May 26, 2023 05:42:08   #
Canisdirus
 
We use a machine to take images...a machine.

Machines get better...just a fact of living here on Earth.

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May 26, 2023 17:55:13   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
To All:

I would like the group's opinion as to whether these famous photos would still be considered such works of art if the photographers had used Ai generate parts or allof them. Such as Henri Cartier Bresson just typing in the Photoshop line "Man jumping puddle?"


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May 27, 2023 11:24:48   #
NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
No, I would certainly not call you a lousy photographer for doing that. If I did I would be a total hypocrite because I use the Content Aware Fill tool when stitching panoramas. That's just getting around the limitations of the software to stitch the photo together. I personally don't use it for removing objects other than maybe large dust spots, but's that's just a personal belief of mine. But I don't consider people who do that lousy photographers either.
I'm talking about using the tool as hyped in most of the ads I have seen. For example, one of the ads I saw shows selecting a deer/ caribou from an image and putting it in an Ai generated image of a cityscape.
How is there any skill involved in that other than typing in what you want? Compositing an image like that from your own photos would be fine because that's just photo art and the images are still yours. But in this instance 90% of the image is Ai generated. Again, I ask, where is the skill in that?
Why even learn the exposure triangle, DOF, rules of composition, color theory, animal behaviour, tide charts, sunrise sunset times, posing a subject, scouting a location? Why even photograph at all? Just sit at home on the computer and let Ai generate an image for you?
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That is just one of the uses of it, and I agree with that part of the capabilities. But, you have to remember that the software isn't just for photographers. Probably more graphics people use it than photographers. I have used and uploaded a couple of shots showing how well it removes unwanted objects, and how quick and efficient it does this. Will it be abused? Probably so, but it will also be a beneficial tool when needed. Sometimes to get the shot you want, there are objects that you can't just wait for them to go away or else the subject matter is gone as well. This fact goes all the way back to dodging in the darkroom to eliminate or minimize them. So, the need has been around for a long time and the capabilities in post processing software as well.

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May 27, 2023 11:40:07   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
NCMtnMan wrote:
That is just one of the uses of it, and I agree with that part of the capabilities. But, you have to remember that the software isn't just for photographers. Probably more graphics people use it than photographers. I have used and uploaded a couple of shots showing how well it removes unwanted objects, and how quick and efficient it does this. Will it be abused? Probably so, but it will also be a beneficial tool when needed. Sometimes to get the shot you want, there are objects that you can't just wait for them to go away or else the subject matter is gone as well. This fact goes all the way back to dodging in the darkroom to eliminate or minimize them. So, the need has been around for a long time and the capabilities in post processing software as well.
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Sky replacement, and removing or adding objects were done in the darkroom even in the early days of photography. It was just much more difficult.

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May 27, 2023 12:41:50   #
JimGray Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Sky replacement, and removing or adding objects were done in the darkroom even in the early days of photography. It was just much more difficult.



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