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May 23, 2023 15:25:09   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
If you have PS Beta installed, update now. Then find KelbyOne on You Tube...oh, this is good. BTW, I've tried it, disturbing and FUN!

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May 23, 2023 16:43:21   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Yours is the third topic posted today about this subject. People are very excited

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May 23, 2023 16:50:11   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Yours is the third topic posted today about this subject. People are very excited


...shoot, I looked, and didn't see one. Pardon the redundancy.

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May 23, 2023 16:52:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
chasgroh wrote:
...shoot, I looked, and didn't see one. Pardon the redundancy.

Oh it's no matter to me; I still use PS Elements

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May 23, 2023 17:01:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Looks like not paying for a subscription might finally be paying off for that some in-the-future point.

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May 23, 2023 20:46:59   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Looks like not paying for a subscription might finally be paying off for that some in-the-future point.


I know you're still on an older, fully owned, model, but, wow, the advancements have been great over the last few years (just the masking function alone). I feel pretty sure I could use the older stuff and create nice edits, don't get me wrong, but I and many others have very different workflows now...it's just better and better. <shrug>

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May 23, 2023 21:09:43   #
robbiedoug Loc: Cuero, Texas
 
Are you speaking to me? If so, I'm sorry, but I am confused as to what you are referring. If you are referring me to an update, I m in the dark. HOW?
Bob

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May 23, 2023 22:48:02   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Yours is the third topic posted today about this subject. People are very excited


The only people that would be excited by this are lousy photographers.

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May 23, 2023 23:22:11   #
User ID
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
The only people that would be excited by this are lousy photographers.

A visitor from The Attic shares his photographic "wisdom".

Always consider the source.

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May 24, 2023 00:30:36   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
User ID wrote:
A visitor from The Attic shares his photographic "wisdom".

Always consider the source.


I guess you're one of those lousy photographers I was referring to.

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May 24, 2023 00:40:32   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
The only people that would be excited by this are lousy photographers.


I guess you mean that the only use of post processing is to fix bad photos. In fact, its best use is to take photos which are the best they can be out of the camera and improve them further.

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May 24, 2023 00:58:04   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
I guess you mean that the only use of post processing is to fix bad photos. In fact, its best use is to take photos which are the best they can be out of the camera and improve them further.


No that's not what I mean. Perhaps I should have been more specific. My bad. I'm talking about using Ai to generate parts of an image that weren't there. How is there any skill of the photographer involved in that?

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May 24, 2023 01:25:42   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
No that's not what I mean. Perhaps I should have been more specific. My bad. I'm talking about using Ai to generate parts of an image that weren't there. How is there any skill of the photographer involved in that?


Even before this new Photoshop AI, I have used Content Aware Fill to fill in areas created by removing small objects or fill in the spaces created when I rotate a photo to straighten it. It's just another tool and if it can do a better job than I can do with the clone tool, I will use it. Sometimes it doesn't do a better job than I can, and then I do it myself. I wouldn't use it for large areas of a photo. If you think that makes me a lousy photographer, it doesn't bother me at all.

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May 24, 2023 02:35:11   #
The Aardvark Is Ready
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Even before this new Photoshop AI, I have used Content Aware Fill to fill in areas created by removing small objects or fill in the spaces created when I rotate a photo to straighten it. It's just another tool and if it can do a better job than I can do with the clone tool, I will use it. Sometimes it doesn't do a better job than I can, and then I do it myself. I wouldn't use it for large areas of a photo. If you think that makes me a lousy photographer, it doesn't bother me at all.


No, I would certainly not call you a lousy photographer for doing that. If I did I would be a total hypocrite because I use the Content Aware Fill tool when stitching panoramas. That's just getting around the limitations of the software to stitch the photo together. I personally don't use it for removing objects other than maybe large dust spots, but's that's just a personal belief of mine. But I don't consider people who do that lousy photographers either.
I'm talking about using the tool as hyped in most of the ads I have seen. For example, one of the ads I saw shows selecting a deer/ caribou from an image and putting it in an Ai generated image of a cityscape.
How is there any skill involved in that other than typing in what you want? Compositing an image like that from your own photos would be fine because that's just photo art and the images are still yours. But in this instance 90% of the image is Ai generated. Again, I ask, where is the skill in that?
Why even learn the exposure triangle, DOF, rules of composition, color theory, animal behaviour, tide charts, sunrise sunset times, posing a subject, scouting a location? Why even photograph at all? Just sit at home on the computer and let Ai generate an image for you?

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May 24, 2023 07:44:04   #
Canisdirus
 
This will bring out the...luddites.

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