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Mar 17, 2023 11:16:27   #
Wilderness Images Loc: Apache Junction, AZ.
 
AI still has a host of problems. Although there's a lot of activity to correct most of its deficiencies, there's some pretty hilarious results being posted. This picture is just something I pulled off Face Book today just to show how far AI still has to go.

Guess I'll stick with my trusted digital camera for a while
Jack Olson


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Mar 17, 2023 11:25:57   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Wilderness Images wrote:
AI still has a host of problems. Although there's a lot of activity to correct most of its deficiencies, there's some pretty hilarious results being posted. This picture is just something I pulled off Face Book today just to show how far AI still has to go.

Guess I'll stick with my trusted digital camera for a while
Jack Olson


It's hard to judge the image without any context. Was this an existing photo modified by AI or a computer generated image based on a verbal description? Was there any description on Facebook about what was intended? Maybe it's just what the person wanted.

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Mar 17, 2023 11:38:19   #
MrMophoto Loc: Rhode Island "The biggest little"
 
People that resist advances in technology simply because they have a fear of the unknown (Fear of the unknown is the strongest human emotion - H.P. Lovecraft) are not looking forward. The term Luddite applies. AI is just another step in the evolution of digital imagery. Where it goes and how it becomes part of our world is yet to be seen. Remember, when photography first became universally available, there was an outcry that it would never be a true art form. Just my view.

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Mar 17, 2023 12:23:28   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Aaaaaargh! It looks like AI hasn't sussed out what "flattering" means. So it's not just fingers that it's having problems with...

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Mar 17, 2023 12:35:27   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
R.G. wrote:
Aaaaaargh! It looks like AI hasn't sussed out what "flattering" means. So it's not just fingers that it's having problems with...


Maybe it wasn't supposed to be flattering.

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Mar 17, 2023 12:35:29   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Here is the context - a bit different from the OP's Facebook version

https://indepest.com/2022/11/27/when-we-get-old/

From Norwegian designer Susanne Hæstad. "We have a club called the ‘Get together and get it out on a trip and theatre.' And then I sat alone and fantasized at night: what will we look like when we get old?”

"AbFab, 80-year-old, tough, tattooed ladies at a New York nightclub."
"AbFab, 80-year-old, tough, tattooed ladies at a N...

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Mar 17, 2023 12:41:04   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
R.G. wrote:
Aaaaaargh! It looks like AI hasn't sussed out what "flattering" means. So it's not just fingers that it's having problems with...

Relax. Automation can ‘guarantee’ that the user-specified rules are followed. It is still the user who specifies the subject and the rules.

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Mar 17, 2023 12:44:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Maybe it wasn't supposed to be flattering.
Exactly what I wondered when I read R.G.'s comment; that's why I went looking for the original story (see the link in my earlier post) to find the intent of the exercise, and a non-Facebook-altered result. Fascinating!

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Mar 18, 2023 02:20:02   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Maybe it wasn't supposed to be flattering.


OK, the intention was to produce something jarringly unflattering, but are we all going to be suffering horrific mutations to our hands and arms when we get old? In my humble opinion, "tough" doesn't have to mean corpse-like, "characterful" doesn't have to mean grotesque, even "growing old disgracefully" doesn't have to mean barely human. There's no shortage of elderly people who radiate character and whose faces have a lived-in look but they aren't grotesque. When a human artist does character portrayals they can choose to concentrate on positive and inspiring traits. Is anybody reminding AI that when those things are missing the result will be lacking something important and can make the subjects look borderline human?

In fact since AI isn't human, will it ever properly understand what "inspiring" means?

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Mar 18, 2023 09:27:51   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Great photo. I live at the NJ shore and a lot of tattoos here on all body parts. This is what the future will be

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Mar 18, 2023 10:38:06   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Wilderness Images wrote:
AI still has a host of problems. Although there's a lot of activity to correct most of its deficiencies, there's some pretty hilarious results being posted. This picture is just something I pulled off Face Book today just to show how far AI still has to go.

Guess I'll stick with my trusted digital camera for a while
Jack Olson


Hmmmm, I think I know those ladies ….😏

Stan

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Mar 18, 2023 11:21:23   #
KiwiRuss
 
Looks to me like those old "count the mistakes cartoon" -Way more fingers and arms and hands that might be real.
Two extra much younger legs and someone's arm has skin that looks identical to the lady's brown dress material. One of her hands appears to be grown out of the other hand which must make getting around and changing clothes a real challenge. At 80, that age is often a challenge by itself without these complications. The spare sunglasses when already wearing sunglasses is an interesting fashion statement.
Having said all this, I would like to hear some comments from the subjects, and hope they get something to smile about.

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Mar 18, 2023 13:42:07   #
John H. Loc: Central Washington State
 
I have already -- less than a year -- gotten tired of AI-created images.
Looking at kitty, puppy, and bunny videos is a lot more entertaining.
Not to mention the great wildlife photos some folks post. 😊

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Mar 18, 2023 14:02:14   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
John H. wrote:
I have already -- less than a year -- gotten tired of AI-created images.
Looking at kitty, puppy, and bunny videos is a lot more entertaining.
Not to mention the great wildlife photos some folks post. 😊


How's this eagle to relax you. Taken in Wall NJ



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Mar 18, 2023 14:08:13   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Wilderness Images wrote:
AI still has a host of problems. Although there's a lot of activity to correct most of its deficiencies, there's some pretty hilarious results being posted. This picture is just something I pulled off Face Book today just to show how far AI still has to go.

Guess I'll stick with my trusted digital camera for a while
Jack Olson


Looks good to me.

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