Article says cropping can be "insecure": This appeared quite recently. I don't know if it's accurate either sometimes or always. PDF attached. If it is true even sometimes then it may...

a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel

This appeared quite recently. I don't know if it's accurate either sometimes or always. PDF attached. If it is true even sometimes then it may be important to photographers generally, not merely "whistleblowers".

Whistleblowers Take Note: Don’t Trust Cropping Tools

Cropping tools like those in Google Docs allow viewers to see the full, original images.

Nikita Mazurov
February 14 2023, 7:00 a.m.

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revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson

Is this true of ALL photo manipulation programs such a Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, etc.?

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a6k wrote:

This appeared quite recently. I don't know if it's accurate either sometimes or always. PDF attached. If it is true even sometimes then it may be important to photographers generally, not merely "whistleblowers".

Whistleblowers Take Note: Don’t Trust Cropping Tools

Cropping tools like those in Google Docs allow viewers to see the full, original images.

Nikita Mazurov
February 14 2023, 7:00 a.m.

Why did John run out of the room screaming?

Oh, he just un-cropped an image.

fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM

Stephan G wrote:

Why did John run out of the room screaming?

Oh, he just un-cropped an image.

Poor John, scarred for life now...

TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA

A bit alarmist. PhotoLab has the option to strip metadata when exporting an image. If you do that, even PhotoLab cannot recover what it has cropped from the exported image. I would hazard a guess that most serious editors have that same kind of option.

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DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

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Tin foil hat area?

Where do you find tin foil these days? Plenty of auminium foil available but tin is hard to come by.

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DirtFarmer wrote:

Tin foil hat area?

Where do you find tin foil these days? Plenty of auminium foil available but tin is hard to come by.

Youve volunteered to be the Poster Child. Most folks know that tinfoil is made from aluminum, but that doesnt bother them.

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dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

I like the phrase, "fetishization** of image forensics" it goes well with "Woke"... sounds great invoking "insecure" anxiety!!!
**an unreasonable amount of importance that is given to something, or an unreasonable interest in something: Cambridge dictionary.

Often when there is no mention of camera or settings I use EXIF "image forensics" to find out what the photographer did. I advised a friend that photography is like her cooking... receipts on a 3x5 card. If a photo has a great capture, how it was done can be duplicated or can be the basis for a tweak; EXIF "image forensics" tells how.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

If the cropped out part of a photo needs to be kept secret, then take a screen shot of the cropped picture and then save the screen shot as a JPG.

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

a6k wrote:

This appeared quite recently. I don't know if it's accurate either sometimes or always. PDF attached. If it is true even sometimes then it may be important to photographers generally, not merely "whistleblowers".

Whistleblowers Take Note: Don’t Trust Cropping Tools

Cropping tools like those in Google Docs allow viewers to see the full, original images.

Nikita Mazurov
February 14 2023, 7:00 a.m.

Whistleblower to a crop? What a croc of sh*t! Is there some morality clause that is violated when one wants to crop a photo?

Sorry, much ado about nothing!

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

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Whistleblower to a crop? What a croc of sh*t! Is there some morality clause that is violated when one wants to crop a photo?

Sorry, much ado about nothing!

Yes - but what about a scenario where a married guy needs photographic proof of where he was but without the girlfriend sitting next to him?

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

a6k wrote:

This appeared quite recently. I don't know if it's accurate either sometimes or always. PDF attached. If it is true even sometimes then it may be important to photographers generally, not merely "whistleblowers".

Whistleblowers Take Note: Don’t Trust Cropping Tools

Cropping tools like those in Google Docs allow viewers to see the full, original images.

Nikita Mazurov
February 14 2023, 7:00 a.m.

Once the cropped images are exported everything else is thrown away, no one can get it back from the exported cropped . But what Google does is their editor never exports so all you have to do is hit reset it's just like backing up and in Lightroom or anything else it never becomes a separate individual image with Google and a lot of those online editors do that.

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

revhen wrote:

Is this true of ALL photo manipulation programs such a Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, etc.?

It is, only in the program. Once the image is exported it becomes it's own image and all the cropped out data is thrown away.

You can still see the original image in L.R. and undo changes and/or make other changes.

What Google's editor, as others probably do, is it never exports the cropped image. It is still in crop mode and when you reset, you are just backing k up, or undoing the crop, because all the info is still there, you can then see the full image.