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Mar 9, 2023 11:14:59   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'd vote for the one that you know best. While every tool has its advantages and flaws, results depend upon knowledge, training, and experience. If you keep hopping around from application to application, will you ever get good at any of them, or will you just get confused?


Great comment/insight.

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Mar 9, 2023 11:46:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'd vote for the one that you know best. While every tool has its advantages and flaws, results depend upon knowledge, training, and experience. If you keep hopping around from application to application, will you ever get good at any of them, or will you just get confused?


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Mar 9, 2023 13:06:38   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:

Lightroom/Photoshop is hard to beat! But I also like Affinity Photo, Darktable and Luminar Neo for the things they're good at.

bwa

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Mar 9, 2023 13:14:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bwana wrote:
Lightroom/Photoshop is hard to beat! But I also like Affinity Photo, Darktable and Luminar Neo for the things they're good at.

bwa

Yup.
And so one can do everything, get one of each.

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Mar 9, 2023 14:17:25   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup.
And so one can do everything, get one of each.

I didn't mention the dozen+/- other apps that do at least one thing good, i.e.: Topaz's full suite, InPixio, Photomatix, RawTherapee, Aurora HDR, Kolor's AutopanoGiga, Colorizer Pro, Zerene Stacker, etc., etc. as well as all the software delivered with various Camera brands.

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Mar 9, 2023 16:21:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bwana wrote:
I didn't mention the dozen+/- other apps that do at least one thing good, i.e.: Topaz's full suite, InPixio, Photomatix, RawTherapee, Aurora HDR, Kolor's AutopanoGiga, Colorizer Pro, Zerene Stacker, etc., etc. as well as all the software delivered with various Camera brands.

Yup, there's a bunch out there...
Photo Impact Pro is another.

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Mar 13, 2023 05:05:58   #
selena18
 
Ultimately, the best photo editor for 2023 depends on your preferences and needs. If you require advanced editing features, Adobe Photoshop or Corel PaintShop Pro 2023 Ultimate may be your best option. However, Affinity Photo may be the way to go if you want a more affordable and simplified option. Otherwise, a free vote called Photopea, the best alternative to Photoshop, was available.

Also, personal choice and priorities are essential
https://pathedits.com/blogs/tips/the-ultimate-raster-graphics-software-list-8-programs-to-consider

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Mar 13, 2023 11:51:17   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Great comment/insight.


My Dad taught me a simple phrase, "Use the right tool for the job." What he meant was, you need more than one. If all you have is a hammer, you will bend and break screws and split wood!*

*I also learned some Navy curse words from my Dad when he watched a couple of yahoos sent by the builder to put a crawl space door in our new house back in 1967. THEY WERE pounding screws with a hammer! Dad lost it (a VERY rare moment for him) and threw them out. We put the door together, after finding a few pieces of good wood to replace those that were split. We also used a drill, countersink tool, and the correct wood screws... I'll never forget that lesson. I was 12.

For still images and video production I use:

Adobe Lightroom Classic as the hub of my digital workflow. For still images, everything starts here and ends here.

Negative Lab Pro plug-in for Lightroom Classic to invert black-and-white and color negative images macro copied from film. It's genius, folks!

Adobe Photoshop for raster image editing and neural filtering.

Graphic Converter 12 (Thorsten Lemke's Mac-only bit of genius) for batch edits, file format conversions, and full screen cull editing via its slide show feature...

SpyderXElite for monitor calibration.

Epson Scan 2 and Apple Image Capture for simple scanning.

Apple Photos for handling all my iPhone images. When required, I export a file for Lightroom/Photoshop editing.

Apple Final Cut Pro for video editing and turning stills into slide shows.

Apple GarageBand for audio editing of video soundtracks, podcasts, and music recording.

VLC Media Player and Apple Quicktime for video presentation.

Apple Pages and Microsoft Word for various manuals and publications.

Apple Keynote and Microsoft PowerPoint for various presentations.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:13:25   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
My Dad taught me a simple phrase, "Use the right tool for the job." What he meant was, you need more than one. If all you have is a hammer, you will bend and break screws and split wood!*

*I also learned some Navy curse words from my Dad when he watched a couple of yahoos sent by the builder to put a crawl space door in our new house back in 1967. THEY WERE pounding screws with a hammer! Dad lost it (a VERY rare moment for him) and threw them out. We put the door together, after finding a few pieces of good wood to replace those that were split. We also used a drill, countersink tool, and the correct wood screws... I'll never forget that lesson. I was 12.

For still images and video production I use:

Adobe Lightroom Classic as the hub of my digital workflow. For still images, everything starts here and ends here.

Negative Lab Pro plug-in for Lightroom Classic to invert black-and-white and color negative images macro copied from film. It's genius, folks!

Adobe Photoshop for raster image editing and neural filtering.

Graphic Converter 12 (Thorsten Lemke's Mac-only bit of genius) for batch edits, file format conversions, and full screen cull editing via its slide show feature...

SpyderXElite for monitor calibration.

Epson Scan 2 and Apple Image Capture for simple scanning.

Apple Photos for handling all my iPhone images. When required, I export a file for Lightroom/Photoshop editing.

Apple Final Cut Pro for video editing and turning stills into slide shows.

Apple GarageBand for audio editing of video soundtracks, podcasts, and music recording.

VLC Media Player and Apple Quicktime for video presentation.

Apple Pages and Microsoft Word for various manuals and publications.

Apple Keynote and Microsoft PowerPoint for various presentations.
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"Adobe Lightroom Classic as the hub of my digital workflow. For still images, everything starts here and ends here."

Do you use it to manage your video clips too?

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Mar 13, 2023 12:43:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bsprague wrote:
"Adobe Lightroom Classic as the hub of my digital workflow. For still images, everything starts here and ends here."

Do you use it to manage your video clips too?


No, it is a bit limited for what we do with video. Final Cut Pro has fantastic project-oriented tools for organizing footage, adjusting color, adding titles and effects, cropping video, stabilizing hand-held scenes, and editing sound. Most of the time, it is all we need, unless we are including original music and sound effects, which get edited in GarageBand on another Mac and then ported over.

My twins and I have entered several 48 Hour Film Projects over the years. We make a seven minute film in two days, so we have to be organized. We use two or three cameras, so we have a "pre-editor" download SD cards after each scene, and label the files (Scene # - cam # - take #). The pre-editor reviews the takes, flags the best ones, and sets initial in and out markers for each clip. Then the editor begins to assemble the video and audio timelines, pick camera angles, check audio sync, etc.

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Mar 28, 2023 22:17:10   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
They show Lightroom as having a subscription price of $9.99, but they neglect to say that Photoshop is included at that price. Then they say the subscription price for Photoshop starts at $19.99. Since they are only available together, they should have noted that and get the price correct. With those inaccuracies, I wouldn't trust any info on their list.

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Mar 29, 2023 00:49:03   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
They show Lightroom as having a subscription price of $9.99, but they neglect to say that Photoshop is included at that price. Then they say the subscription price for Photoshop starts at $19.99. Since they are only available together, they should have noted that and get the price correct. With those inaccuracies, I wouldn't trust any info on their list.


The plans ARE very distinct, but you have to read the complete descriptions of ALL of them to understand what is included with each option. The $9.99/month deal includes limited storage. The $19.99 plan includes more storage and probably some other stuff I can't remember.

I use Photoshop and Lightroom CLASSIC. I don't have a use for Bridge or Lightroom. They're fine for what they do, but I don't need that.

Adobe Marketing seems obsessed with confusion. A few years ago, they had a program called Lightroom Mobile that they re-engineered and re-branded as the NEW Lightroom, which is cloud-connected and runs on "all" your devices (smartphones, tablets, and computers).

They also re-branded the OLD stand-alone Lightroom into the new Lightroom CLASSIC. I think they were hoping to lure people away from Lightroom 6.14 standalone and move them to the new subscription based, cloud-connected Lightroom. Instead, they just pissed a lot of us off and wasted our time with a program that isn't what we knew, continue to need, and rely upon.

Don't get me wrong, I love Adobe software. It's their market positioning I can't stand. Their tech support leaves a lot to be desired, too. I'm still waiting on a fix for the Lightroom Preferences panel that keeps showing up blank on my machine. After half a dozen over-an-hour-long phone calls, I gave up. I guess I need to call and ask for top tier tech support... The front-line folks who answer the phone assume I'm an intimidated new user without a clue. (Having run a help desk for tech support, I think that's usually a fair, if cynical assumption, most of the time. But I'd like to think I know when I have a deeper issue than what newbies call about.)

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May 26, 2023 10:01:11   #
bobburk3 Loc: Maryland
 
StanMac wrote:
Quite a selection there. I’m still climbing the learning curve on Photoshop Elements 2018, though. My old brain can handle only so much at one time anymore. But I may invest in Topaz Denoise.

Stan


Think about getting Topaz Photo AI instead of denoise. Denoise is great, but Photo AI does denoise and so much more.

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